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Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 346. (Read 1007075 times)

legendary
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Does anyone know the deal with cryptostocks which also was listing the cryptsy royalty shares; it appears to be dead and gone with customer funds.   This site is linked to the vircurex exchange which is still up, would cryptostocks failing have any negative effect on cryptsy business or funds availability?  I presume cryptostocks did not hold any money for cryptsy so its not a knock on loss scenario.


I have withdrawn most funds from cryptsy just by using alt coins, there were people in chat advising which but also you pay a bad price and you are losing something by withdrawing this way.  Of course the best advice is do not store large funds with exchanges which do not separate out customer funds and my own advice is generally dont carry all eggs in one basket

Sorry to quote an old post, and now it's too late, but I'll respond anyway in case some withdrawals open up again, and when/if you find yourself in this situation again.

One DOGE that you can withdraw is worth a lot more than 1 BTC that you can't. "Paying a bad price" to withdraw via alts is better than a total loss via doing nothing.

Once you are in the shitty situation of getting stuck with coins in an insolvent exchange, there's no way to get out "whole" so you need to find a course of action to get out with the most that you can.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
What about the scenario of BigVern goes to China, sells the code to make the new site I will call "Chintzy", while posters here have found that they left code from the real Cryptsy site. So could this code that was left in the open leave Cryptsy vulnerable to even get a list to Phish with? Or could they have been hacked easier after the setup of the new Chintzy site plugged in code that allowed the hack of user funds? Timing is very suspicious.

The phishing does sound fishy though, good points from other posts...

How do we know that they had sold the code though? has a member of the company confirmed it? if not, its possible that the code was stolen in a hack as well as user funds from hot wallets.

I've always admired those kinds of hackers - determined to frame the victim down to the minute details, like registering the domain name in victim's name and forcing Marshall "cup the balls" Long to blab about Cryptsy and China.

Sadly every time a conspiracy theory like that comes up it eventually turns out that there is no conspiracy (aka Occam's razor).

I want to address the people in this thread who have been pointing their fingers at Mullick. First of all, Nick is a great person, and is probably one of the more honest people i've met in Crypto. Second of all, Mullick never has had access to the BTC wallets. This is a fact. Mullicks responsibility is a Server admin of the Altcoin Wallets and nothing more. So when you accuse Mullick of jumping and running with customer funds, you only make yourself look uninformed. You are only hanging an innocent person out to dry. Now back to your scheduled trolling.

Unless Vern was personally signing every withdrawal I find it hard to believe that the server admin couldn't possibly gain access to the wallets located on the server being admin-ed. Even if he couldn't gain access he could simply take them hostage.

This doesn't mean that Mullick ran with the wallets or not, just an observation.
legendary
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Any Cryptsy users looking for a new exchange to call home, we're currently listing coins currently listed on Cryptsy for 10% of our regular listing price (Provided they meet our coin standards requirements) over at Cryptopia: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz

Can you add an auto sell feature at cyptopia ??

thx

Don't add a auto sell feature. That shit has been a blight on alt coins since cryptsy opened.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
What about the scenario of BigVern goes to China, sells the code to make the new site I will call "Chintzy", while posters here have found that they left code from the real Cryptsy site. So could this code that was left in the open leave Cryptsy vulnerable to even get a list to Phish with? Or could they have been hacked easier after the setup of the new Chintzy site plugged in code that allowed the hack of user funds? Timing is very suspicious.

The phishing does sound fishy though, good points from other posts...

Do you think these Chintzy hackers also hacked Vern's hands off so that he couldn't type an explanation until now? Presumably now learned to type with his feet or some other bodily protuberance.
hero member
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always the student, never the master.
I want to address the people in this thread who have been pointing their fingers at Mullick. First of all, Nick is a great person, and is probably one of the more honest people i've met in Crypto. Second of all, Mullick never has had access to the BTC wallets. This is a fact. Mullicks responsibility is a Server admin of the Altcoin Wallets and nothing more. So when you accuse Mullick of jumping and running with customer funds, you only make yourself look uninformed. You are only hanging an innocent person out to dry. Now back to your scheduled trolling.
vip
Activity: 1428
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What about the scenario of BigVern goes to China, sells the code to make the new site I will call "Chintzy", while posters here have found that they left code from the real Cryptsy site. So could this code that was left in the open leave Cryptsy vulnerable to even get a list to Phish with? Or could they have been hacked easier after the setup of the new Chintzy site plugged in code that allowed the hack of user funds? Timing is very suspicious.

The phishing does sound fishy though, good points from other posts...

To be fair to Paul Vernon, I'm sure he's gonna file a police report in Florida, then post proof of such filing perhaps via Twitter, but don't ...

hero member
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Merit: 504
always the student, never the master.
What about the scenario of BigVern goes to China, sells the code to make the new site I will call "Chintzy", while posters here have found that they left code from the real Cryptsy site. So could this code that was left in the open leave Cryptsy vulnerable to even get a list to Phish with? Or could they have been hacked easier after the setup of the new Chintzy site plugged in code that allowed the hack of user funds? Timing is very suspicious.

The phishing does sound fishy though, good points from other posts...

How do we know that they had sold the code though? has a member of the company confirmed it? if not, its possible that the code was stolen in a hack as well as user funds from hot wallets.
legendary
Activity: 987
Merit: 1003
What about the scenario of BigVern goes to China, sells the code to make the new site I will call "Chintzy", while posters here have found that they left code from the real Cryptsy site. So could this code that was left in the open leave Cryptsy vulnerable to even get a list to Phish with? Or could they have been hacked easier after the setup of the new Chintzy site plugged in code that allowed the hack of user funds? Timing is very suspicious.

The phishing does sound fishy though, good points from other posts...
vip
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145
Any Cryptsy users looking for a new exchange to call home, we're currently listing coins currently listed on Cryptsy for 10% of our regular listing price (Provided they meet our coin standards requirements) over at Cryptopia: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz

Can you add an auto sell feature at cyptopia ??

thx

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Faq



Amazingly, they have how referrals work and how they're paid out but not what the referral rewards are.

The referral system is a work in progress. Initially we had one fully implemented, but had to disable it due to rampant abuse that was occurring. We have plans to bring it back which is why you can still collect referrals for when the new payout system goes live.

To be fair, I saw something to that affect via The Wayback Machine. I'm probably done with this subject for now, and thanks for the reply.
sr. member
Activity: 342
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Any Cryptsy users looking for a new exchange to call home, we're currently listing coins currently listed on Cryptsy for 10% of our regular listing price (Provided they meet our coin standards requirements) over at Cryptopia: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz

Can you add an auto sell feature at cyptopia ??

thx

I can't give any ETAs yet as to when this will be ready, but this feature is planned for future release.

ok thx, I have an acct there already but  I don't use it much because it's just too tedious to sell everything manually
full member
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https://www.cryptopia.co.nz
Any Cryptsy users looking for a new exchange to call home, we're currently listing coins currently listed on Cryptsy for 10% of our regular listing price (Provided they meet our coin standards requirements) over at Cryptopia: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz

Can you add an auto sell feature at cyptopia ??

thx

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Faq



Amazingly, they have how referrals work and how they're paid out but not what the referral rewards are.

The referral system is a work in progress. Initially we had one fully implemented, but had to disable it due to rampant abuse that was occurring. We have plans to bring it back which is why you can still collect referrals for when the new payout system goes live.
vip
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145
Any Cryptsy users looking for a new exchange to call home, we're currently listing coins currently listed on Cryptsy for 10% of our regular listing price (Provided they meet our coin standards requirements) over at Cryptopia: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz

Can you add an auto sell feature at cyptopia ??

thx

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Faq



Amazingly, they have how referrals work and how they're paid out but not what the referral rewards are.
full member
Activity: 176
Merit: 102
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz
Any Cryptsy users looking for a new exchange to call home, we're currently listing coins currently listed on Cryptsy for 10% of our regular listing price (Provided they meet our coin standards requirements) over at Cryptopia: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz

Can you add an auto sell feature at cyptopia ??

thx

I can't give any ETAs yet as to when this will be ready, but this feature is planned for future release.
sr. member
Activity: 342
Merit: 250
Any Cryptsy users looking for a new exchange to call home, we're currently listing coins currently listed on Cryptsy for 10% of our regular listing price (Provided they meet our coin standards requirements) over at Cryptopia: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz

Can you add an auto sell feature at cyptopia ??

thx
vip
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145
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Regarding other issues that have been apparent at Cryptsy for the last couple months, I will be making another post to explain what has been happening in the next couple days.

About two months ago we had a Thanksgiving dinner that couldn't be beat while listening to Alice's Restaurant. A month later, we exchanged gifts under an aluminum pole while listening to griefs by Cryptsy customers. Pause, to say that that was a very, very difficult thing to do. You go out and try to source an aluminum pole. Next came New Year's Eve where we went to the beach and got drunk on our fuckin' asses, then watched the fireworks at midnight. Somehow we got home to people houses' we've just met and fucked our fuckin' brains out.

In closing, we're working hard to find another office so to be able once again have the ability to report to clients on how hard we are working to resolve pending issues in spite of FUDster Trolls claiming such issues don't exist which is a blatant lie because we, ourselves, created them.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
Previously I commented on bitebi9.com sending confirmation e-mails from the same mail service as cryptsy for log ins and so forth.

Anyone think there is a connection to that and whats happening now?


To think I would not have been involved if craptsy had let me take my funds A MONTH AGO...



i bet with you that bitebi9.com is run by Cryptsy (BigVern) maybe they use a chinese sock puppet to get the "ownership problem" solved.

Everything fits, BigVern is in China and if he would just have sold the website there would be no reason to be there.
And who would buy a site like cryptsy? the trading engine sometimes leads to impossible market states like the first buy is higher then the first sell.
And even after months of withdrawal problems they told the people that the new withdrawal system is so complicated that they need more time to understand it, which means they developed something that they don't even understand (but i guess this excuse was just used to get more time ripping off customers that were still allowed to deposit)

bitebi9.com even mentioned Cryptsy multiple times, like on the coins sponsors page (they fixed this by now) but a picture showing this, was posted some time ago in this thread

ya there is many points to this issue that blatantly call out Cryptsy staff as liars.
Take for example the domain name.. it was shown to be registered to "Project Investors" when doing a WHOIS.
Now lets think about this..
bitebi9 was later said to have been only available for Chinese users or your not allowed to sign up.
We also had JShock say on chat supposedly that BigVern had gone to China would be back on Monday
and because of security reasons he was not able to transfer Bitcoin from the cold wallet to the Hot wallet because
of the serious threat of Chinese hackers.

Take note: JShock then banned that same guy the very next day when he asked about an update on that comment.

Some have a staff member who confirmed BigVern was in China at the same time that users on this very topic
happened to stumble onto bitebi9 AKA Cryptsy China.. what a brutal coincidence !

Later Shill's like Terrik showed up on it trading although not a citizen of China.
Proof was seeing the idiot use his same user name on their chat box LOL ..Then he admitted it too.

So it's clear to me Terrik and cyberpinoy read this topic and bolted over there ASAP
skipping over the Chinese Citizen requirement and registering anyway and their staff over there (who we don't know)
never noticed the American(s) on their site i guess.

How did he know ?
Was it just from reading this topic ? Or is Terrik getting Cryptsy staff helping him out ?
Terrik then later tried to say the site "was not live" among other lies.  Roll Eyes
Terrik is indeed a lying slithering greedy deceitful "grinning" little NET scam pushing snake in the crypto grass.

So JShock after a while decided he would say on the Cryptsy Troll-Box that BigVern just sold them "some scripts"
But users had already posted here many similarities between the whole site..
minor cosmetic changes were made nothing more.

We also had a user post here how the Chinese chat box looked the same and
and how it contained the same unique Google Adsense URL.
Odd how they would have missed that.

They also have responded back to user requests for missing coins being deposited as "Cryptsy.com".
A user waiting for NVC coins to show up had gotten about 7 replies back that was copied and pasted
stalling the user indefinably.. saying.. "we'll let you know" days after day for a week or two.

Now explain to me guys why if you had sold "scripts" to a Chinese company why you would leave legal ties to it ?
Why would BigVern go and register a domain name (bitebi9) on behalf of his Chinese buyer ?
It said in their TOS  that it was for Chinese people only..
So why would the Chinese Cryptsy script owners want a US based company registered for their site ?
If i was a Chinese exchange operator i would not want a US company showing as it's owner.. WHY ?
I don't think the Chinese govt. is going to appreciate US based business setting up shop over there like they did.
It's not like BTC and crypto etc is considered as highly reputable over there.

Further more "Project Investors" is named in BigVern's divorce and another dozen other web site /company names.
Leaving that Chinese exchange site domain in jeopardy !

So what had gone down all along ? 4 consecutive months of users unable to get their coins out.
Then a user found ties to an address linked to Cryptsy showing 6 million in BTC
with that account seemingly skipping the Tier process and moving 20 BTC amounts at a time 24/7 daily.
Which as we all know our normal Cryptsy user can't move even a fraction of 1 Bitcoin with out waiting weeks !

So think about it..

6 million from the USA site / market
Wouldn't you need Bitcoin to start up a new exchange ?
I think BigVern gave the Cryptsy users the middle finger while he set up the new Chinese site.
And the fact that BigVern used the "Project Investors" USA company name on the Chinese only site is damning.
Does it make any sense that he would go and register the domain for the Chinese only market NEW Exchange owners ?
Of course not that is simply retarded !
But that is precisely what JShock said..

And who is JShock ?
A guy that had pulled many scams with BigVern since the 90's together..
Including a Porn Web site Advertising company where they had 1 of them pretend to be a customer.
Then we seen them run a Penny Auction site (Foopile) with a trail of fraud / theft and unauthorized CC charges on the web.

THEN we have their existing staff sucking their cock and staying after all the abuse.. HORUS
While they announce all offices in USA & Canada are closed while they OBVIOUSLY
take the Cryptsy users BTC funds to start up a new operation in China.
I am stunned how Horus is not worried about his Job.. looks like an exit strategy to me.
But he's the big "investigator" LOL

ALL

..of them have been caught lying and playing games together since the 90's
A leopard never loses it's spots people !

ALL

..of these people i have pointed out have shady deceitful dishonest history.
EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM !
From Owners to Staff to Admins to Chat Mods to their ass kissing Shill's
- Jagropolite / o0o0
- Terrik
- cyberpinoy
- Paul Vernon
- Jim Shockney
- Horus
- Mullick


and on and on and on and..

Don't believe me ?
Pick ANY one of these scammy cunts and i will post proof of them being dishonest.
It's just one huge giant circle jerk of Scam.

Cryptsy wound up being a Craigslist ad.. Scammers seeking other Scammers for Money making opportunity.

I have had enough of ALL those fucking scammy pieces of shit and they are going to have to leave Crypto now.
With my authority i now proclaim Cryptsy and Shill friends.. DONE !
GTFO of my Crypto scene you scammy cock suckers.. we don't want you here LEAVE !
vip
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i bet with you that bitebi9.com is run by Cryptsy (BigVern) maybe they use a chinese sock puppet to get the "ownership problem" solved.

Everything fits, BigVern is in China and if he would just have sold the website there would be no reason to be there.
And who would buy a site like cryptsy? the trading engine sometimes leads to impossible market states like the first buy is higher then the first sell.
And even after months of withdrawal problems they told the people that the new withdrawal system is so complicated that they need more time to understand it, which means they developed something that they don't even understand (but i guess this excuse was just used to get more time ripping off customers that were still allowed to deposit)

bitebi9.com even mentioned Cryptsy multiple times, like on the coins sponsors page (they fixed this by now) but a picture showing this, was posted some time ago in this thread

Wouldn't it be stupid to run another site with the same design and probably bugs in the code? I mean, who knows, but it wouldn't make sense.

Recalling that Marshall Long, a bitcoin miner since 2009, was instrumental in getting Cryptsy in China, it all makes perfect sense now. It makes as much sense as going to China to open a Chinese-based website overseen by people who speak Chinese. If ONLY there were a way to accomplish said feat from the comforts of their about-to-expire leased office while going through a divorce.

Holy shit! I just had a brain fart. What if Godaddy et al. had top level domains referred to as TLD to denote what country of origin an entity represents? Is that even humanly possible? Then, once a person sets up say a Chinese site, he, she or it staffs it with Chinese folks. I'm a fuckin' genius!
full member
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https://www.cryptopia.co.nz
Any Cryptsy users looking for a new exchange to call home, we're currently listing coins currently listed on Cryptsy for 10% of our regular listing price (Provided they meet our coin standards requirements) over at Cryptopia: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz
legendary
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Here is a statement from the man himself about today's phishing fiasco.

http://blog.cryptsy.com/

He also says another statement will be coming out within the next couple of days.

I know it isn't much, but it's definitely a step in the right direction.  I just said I'd post as I got info and I was just told of the blog post.

A step in the right direction would be to shut the whole thing down, sort it out (quickly), and give everyone their money back. I mean real money not the +50% overpriced shitcoins.

How could a blog entry possibly be any kind of "right" if it's been insolvent for months now, without communication, and people have LOST money?


It's too late for that. You have to shut down exchanges as soon as you anticipate problems like this.

They have waited too long and probably no longer have the funds to return to their users.

A couple of days, a couple of weeks, a couple of months, a couple of years. At Cryptsy, what's the difference? Your money is gone!
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