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Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 529. (Read 1007121 times)

legendary
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There is no Fractional Reserve unless they ran off with the BTC, all of the Coin that is being asked to withdraw has been sent into the Exchange so it should be there with no restriction. Only restriction should be on FIAT period.

There absolutely could be a fractional reserve problem. If Cryptsy was using phantom coins to game markets in an effort to try to make money for themselves there could be big problems quickly if there was a "bank run."

Further, there is no transparency at Cryptsy w/r/t the wallets, so who really knows what goes on behind the curtain...

I'm getting back in the game after a week out... and got slammed with the whole "25/100 limits".  Only reason for this "increased scrutiny" is a need to reduce withdrawals.  Why?  Don't know... but the only outcome to this crap is reduced withdrawals.

Luckily I only have <10usd worth of btc on that exchange... and I don't plan on making that number go up... but instead making it go to 0.

 NOTE:    This guy knows numbers.

And I'll be looking at those numbers in the near future... I really don't see a valid reason for the new non-FIAT tiers as FIAT, in my opinion, is the only monetary/high value product that is currently under the purview of KYC being traded at Cryptsy...

i.e.
https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/financial-services/assets/pwc-kyc-anti-money-laundering-guide-2013.pdf

Go to page 37 for the relevant US mandates as Cryptsy is based in the US.

Very clear that non-FIAT transactions of low value goods (i.e. altcoins) don't apply.

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(a) Banking; (b) Other financial Services; (c) Non financial sector (e.g. casinos, high value goods
etc.)

What else is clear... if they decide to state that altcoins are indeed high value assets then there is no "limit" that they can put in place to be outside KYC...  See question 8 on page 38.

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Are there minimum transaction thresholds, under which customer due diligence is not required?
If Yes, what are the various thresholds in place?

No - basic due diligence is required for all accounts/customers regardless of transaction amounts.

Either way, I believe their claim(s) are fake and also believe that this further shows that Cryptsy is only reducing withdrawals as I previously opined.
legendary
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Does anybody know what happened to coinfire?

http://coinfire.io  ------> https://99bitcoins.com ?

legendary
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There is no Fractional Reserve unless they ran off with the BTC, all of the Coin that is being asked to withdraw has been sent into the Exchange so it should be there with no restriction. Only restriction should be on FIAT period.

There absolutely could be a fractional reserve problem. If Cryptsy was using phantom coins to game markets in an effort to try to make money for themselves there could be big problems quickly if there was a "bank run."

Further, there is no transparency at Cryptsy w/r/t the wallets, so who really knows what goes on behind the curtain...

I'm getting back in the game after a week out... and got slammed with the whole "25/100 limits".  Only reason for this "increased scrutiny" is a need to reduce withdrawals.  Why?  Don't know... but the only outcome to this crap is reduced withdrawals.

Luckily I only have <10usd worth of btc on that exchange... and I don't plan on making that number go up... but instead making it go to 0.

 NOTE:    This guy knows numbers.
vip
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There is no Fractional Reserve unless they ran off with the BTC, all of the Coin that is being asked to withdraw has been sent into the Exchange so it should be there with no restriction. Only restriction should be on FIAT period.

There absolutely could be a fractional reserve problem. If Cryptsy was using phantom coins to game markets in an effort to try to make money for themselves there could be big problems quickly if there was a "bank run."

Further, there is no transparency at Cryptsy w/r/t the wallets, so who really knows what goes on behind the curtain...

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/bitcoin-exchange-mtgoxs-ceo-mark-karpeles-spent-embezzled-funds-on-prostitutes-reports/articleshow/49563926.cms

"Hello, Madam Butterfly. Big Vern, here. Hey, can you send me over them same two girls I got the other day? Great! I baked apple pies for them just like I promised I would. Mark? Never heard of him."
legendary
Activity: 1033
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There is no Fractional Reserve unless they ran off with the BTC, all of the Coin that is being asked to withdraw has been sent into the Exchange so it should be there with no restriction. Only restriction should be on FIAT period.

There absolutely could be a fractional reserve problem. If Cryptsy was using phantom coins to game markets in an effort to try to make money for themselves there could be big problems quickly if there was a "bank run."

Further, there is no transparency at Cryptsy w/r/t the wallets, so who really knows what goes on behind the curtain...

I'm getting back in the game after a week out... and got slammed with the whole "25/100 limits".  Only reason for this "increased scrutiny" is a need to reduce withdrawals.  Why?  Don't know... but the only outcome to this crap is reduced withdrawals.

Luckily I only have <10usd worth of btc on that exchange... and I don't plan on making that number go up... but instead making it go to 0.
hero member
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Biggest bunch of morons I've ever encountered.........and I don't mean Cryptsy
legendary
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There is no Fractional Reserve unless they ran off with the BTC, all of the Coin that is being asked to withdraw has been sent into the Exchange so it should be there with no restriction. Only restriction should be on FIAT period.

There absolutely could be a fractional reserve problem. If Cryptsy was using phantom coins to game markets in an effort to try to make money for themselves there could be big problems quickly if there was a "bank run."

Further, there is no transparency at Cryptsy w/r/t the wallets, so who really knows what goes on behind the curtain...
hero member
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For small fee, i can possibly help users withdraw. not sure it will work for anyone else but i was able to withdraw (not transfer) from one crypsty account to another...then off exchange. I have no problem using trusted escrow where i put up equal value before trying.

If you use your account you now have the reported income so be careful.

The problem with these Exchanges only NOW requiring a hold is that before the holding requirement was put in place users had sent their funds in. So a user could have sent in 10 BTC and have trades and paid transaction fees for only to NOW have funds held for ransom to prove who they are. Cryptsy never asked who you were when you sent the funds in. All that needed to be done was an Addition of the amount of BTC or Alt Coins transacted in to Cryptsy and current value in BTC to acquire a base that you could legally move out before having funds blocked from transfer. Only if you wanted to get FIAT out should you have a hold or any requirement of verification into who you are!

There is no Fractional Reserve unless they ran off with the BTC, all of the Coin that is being asked to withdraw has been sent into the Exchange so it should be there with no restriction. Only restriction should be on FIAT period.

I understood that when I sent in verification material I would no longer be anonymous and that if they were legit, there would be a time when they would have to begin to report info to regulators.  Maybe that deadline is fast approaching and there is this rush on their part to comply. Anyway with all the trading losses I have had, income from this proposal would be very welcome and would mostly likely not come close to offsetting said losses. 
legendary
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For small fee, i can possibly help users withdraw. not sure it will work for anyone else but i was able to withdraw (not transfer) from one crypsty account to another...then off exchange. I have no problem using trusted escrow where i put up equal value before trying.

If you use your account you now have the reported income so be careful.

The problem with these Exchanges only NOW requiring a hold is that before the holding requirement was put in place users had sent their funds in. So a user could have sent in 10 BTC and have trades and paid transaction fees for only to NOW have funds held for ransom to prove who they are. Cryptsy never asked who you were when you sent the funds in. All that needed to be done was an Addition of the amount of BTC or Alt Coins transacted in to Cryptsy and current value in BTC to acquire a base that you could legally move out before having funds blocked from transfer. Only if you wanted to get FIAT out should you have a hold or any requirement of verification into who you are!

There is no Fractional Reserve unless they ran off with the BTC, all of the Coin that is being asked to withdraw has been sent into the Exchange so it should be there with no restriction. Only restriction should be on FIAT period.
hero member
Activity: 840
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For small fee, i can possibly help users withdraw. not sure it will work for anyone else but i was able to withdraw (not transfer) from one crypsty account to another...then off exchange. I have no problem using trusted escrow where i put up equal value before trying.
legendary
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25 days and still nothing from these assholes!
At this point it is clear they don't have the coins and the recent "wallet-run" has put them in financial distress.
I don't care about my money anymore, i just hope they go bankrupt.
THIEVES!

I'm sorry for your situation but this sounds like another fractional-reserve scam in the btc exchanges world.
hero member
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25 days and still nothing from these assholes!
At this point it is clear they don't have the coins and the recent "wallet-run" has put them in financial distress.
I don't care about my money anymore, i just hope they go bankrupt.
THIEVES!
sr. member
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Shapeshift - but it must be KYC soon surely since US based?  Its that correct?


Switzerland I believe
legendary
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Shapeshift - but it must be KYC soon surely since US based?  Its that correct?

I don't know if KYC would kick in or not. I'm not sure that Shapeshift ever technically has "custody" of any funds. As soon as funds are confirmed the converted funds go out, right?

Cryptsy has fiat and custody...a different ball game...
TGH
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My last somewhat substantial withdrawal of slightly less than a BTC came through for me this morning. I'm just letting people know it is possible that your withdrawals will be processed. If it helps anyone, this posts shows the steps that I took...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12803625
legendary
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go over look at cryptsy trollbox
NO-ONE CAN WITHDRAW

even the saddos in there trolling their shitcoins there 24/7

people have verified tier 1, 2
and still cannot withdraw, a 'bug' in system
'support' tickets are just being closed
no-one being responded to

been going on WEEKS

won't be long before people start turning up and doorstepping paul vernon and project investors inc. like mtgox and demanding their coins, there and then

Seems like a lot of rumor. I know for certain you are wrong as I just withdrew just under 100 ltc from their site...just waiting for confirmation on the network.  its been broadcast just not confirmed.


This isn't "a lot of rumor."  Support ticket filed last Friday, no response at all.

http://imgur.com/w1u4RTz

Exactly! These are Facts that no one can dispute. The MN2 Bait and Switch happened for real and now these complaints are more numerous and real. Cryptsy really did Raffle off MN2 Shares they said they would never sell them, yet it was about 28 bitcoins worth of entries for the Raffle to win 200 MN2 shares. People were buying Cryptsy points to participate. Cryptsy also stated that they would buy back their own points to bolster the market so they also owned those points that were sold also. Their track record speaks for itself and it is the same tactics employed against users.
legendary
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agree 100% on P2P future

We just dont need exchanges - any options at present - Mycelium?

Anybody used it?

Shapeshift - but it must be KYC soon surely since US based?  Its that correct?

Honestly, I'm really happy for you. But that doesn't mean there's not thousands of other people that are having problems. Something is really wrong with this situation.


doesnt mean there is either.....   thousands huh?   where/how did you come up with that estimate? just curious.....
Just an extrapolation of observations of the constant new handles in the troll box that have a complaint about the process / lack of withdraw now that the "bank run" is on. Unless of course, Big Vern may be generating hundreds of new accounts and trolling himself?

I don't have a horse in the race... Left Cryptsy awhile ago. Got scared off when the first hiccups began to occur.

The whole point of crypto is anonymity. KYC is the government-enforced antithesis of that position.

The future of crypto is P2P, not exchanges...
legendary
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I believe you are absolutely correct

ludacris
My recommendation: listen to some real music and learn to spell properly.
copper member
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go over look at cryptsy trollbox
NO-ONE CAN WITHDRAW

even the saddos in there trolling their shitcoins there 24/7

people have verified tier 1, 2
and still cannot withdraw, a 'bug' in system
'support' tickets are just being closed
no-one being responded to

been going on WEEKS

won't be long before people start turning up and doorstepping paul vernon and project investors inc. like mtgox and demanding their coins, there and then

Seems like a lot of rumor. I know for certain you are wrong as I just withdrew just under 100 ltc from their site...just waiting for confirmation on the network.  its been broadcast just not confirmed.


This isn't "a lot of rumor."  Support ticket filed last Friday, no response at all.

http://imgur.com/w1u4RTz
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