look i have worked for a scam company as well, and i was one of the people being scammed. maybe this is why i understand it from Horus's point of view, and dont get me wrong i lost a LOT of money from Cryptsy. so i am equally mad, but the blame shouldn't be placed on Horus.
when you work for a company and they tell you to jump you ask how high. you have to believe the company is doing what is best for you and the consumers. but just because someone points out a red flag doesn't mean you instantly quit, that is your lifeblood. you justify it any way you can so you can continue to live. if you go to your employers pointing out these red-flags then they can tell you damn near anything and you will likely believe them, or at least not question it enough to risk your only source of food and housing.
i am not saying that what Horus did was right by working for them nor am i justifying Cryptsy. i am simply stating that the blame should not go to Horus who is a sole reason the investigation is progressing as fast as it is, (compared to a dead-stop which is what it would be without his help). shit if Cryptsy was aware of the laws then they might've been able to sue Horus for slander and even arrest him for disclosing information if he had been more aggressive about the red-flags.
at the end of the day you have to choose your battles, and fighting with the person trying to get your money back to you is wrong. go after the people who took your money.
however i would still like to hear Horus's point of view and explanation, i believe you should be more respectful to Horus for the things he has already done FOR you.
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January 05, 2017, 02:54:57 PM
January 04, 2017, 08:32:38 PM
Who wants to bet they are ALL still 100% active in crypto ?
With a slew of new accounts LOL
With a slew of new accounts LOL
^this is why i'm harping on this Horus thing>>while he is still running game on poloniex , all the while in the aftermath of his wake cryptsy victims flounder to grasping straws!!!
mehNo shit , it pisses me off every time i see him popup in the trollbox there ,HE was the one telling people to send in their id documents and other bullshit for weeks/months while he knew very fucking well that that wasnt the problem. wtf was done with all those documents , a shady company like that worrisome to think of where and to who that info might have been sold to.
Now he's all like he didnt know bullshit bullshit!. plenty of people that didnt even work there knew and could see the writing on the walls read between the lines whatever.
He should just get a new handle and dump Horus because im sure im not the only that gets fing annoyed when i see that name popup in the trollbox like nothing happend joking around with the mods there .
^exactly i was saying it was a phishing scam from the get go before they even enacted "verification" ... then look what happens!!! Horus new damn well he was helping scam innocent people!! shame on him and everyone who worked for this outfit! boo :\
To be fair, you both have valid points of which I'll refrain from further commenting on, with apologies, thus allowing Horus to once again address your sentiment(s). Yes, I'm well known for beating dead horses, but opted to not further beat this one, again, with apologies.
Ahhh you mean "Hear it straight from the Horus's Mouth" lol
January 04, 2017, 04:27:52 PM
Who wants to bet they are ALL still 100% active in crypto ?
With a slew of new accounts LOL
With a slew of new accounts LOL
^this is why i'm harping on this Horus thing>>while he is still running game on poloniex , all the while in the aftermath of his wake cryptsy victims flounder to grasping straws!!!
mehNo shit , it pisses me off every time i see him popup in the trollbox there ,HE was the one telling people to send in their id documents and other bullshit for weeks/months while he knew very fucking well that that wasnt the problem. wtf was done with all those documents , a shady company like that worrisome to think of where and to who that info might have been sold to.
Now he's all like he didnt know bullshit bullshit!. plenty of people that didnt even work there knew and could see the writing on the walls read between the lines whatever.
He should just get a new handle and dump Horus because im sure im not the only that gets fing annoyed when i see that name popup in the trollbox like nothing happend joking around with the mods there .
^exactly i was saying it was a phishing scam from the get go before they even enacted "verification" ... then look what happens!!! Horus new damn well he was helping scam innocent people!! shame on him and everyone who worked for this outfit! boo :\
To be fair, you both have valid points of which I'll refrain from further commenting on, with apologies, thus allowing Horus to once again address your sentiment(s). Yes, I'm well known for beating dead horses, but opted to not further beat this one, again, with apologies.
January 04, 2017, 12:47:29 PM
Who wants to bet they are ALL still 100% active in crypto ?
With a slew of new accounts LOL
With a slew of new accounts LOL
^this is why i'm harping on this Horus thing>>while he is still running game on poloniex , all the while in the aftermath of his wake cryptsy victims flounder to grasping straws!!!
mehNo shit , it pisses me off every time i see him popup in the trollbox there ,HE was the one telling people to send in their id documents and other bullshit for weeks/months while he knew very fucking well that that wasnt the problem. wtf was done with all those documents , a shady company like that worrisome to think of where and to who that info might have been sold to.
Now he's all like he didnt know bullshit bullshit!. plenty of people that didnt even work there knew and could see the writing on the walls read between the lines whatever.
He should just get a new handle and dump Horus because im sure im not the only that gets fing annoyed when i see that name popup in the trollbox like nothing happend joking around with the mods there .
^exactly i was saying it was a phishing scam from the get go before they even enacted "verification" ... then look what happens!!! Horus new damn well he was helping scam innocent people!! shame on him and everyone who worked for this outfit! boo :\
January 04, 2017, 11:38:49 AM
Who wants to bet they are ALL still 100% active in crypto ?
With a slew of new accounts LOL
With a slew of new accounts LOL
^this is why i'm harping on this Horus thing>>while he is still running game on poloniex , all the while in the aftermath of his wake cryptsy victims flounder to grasping straws!!!
mehNo shit , it pisses me off every time i see him popup in the trollbox there ,HE was the one telling people to send in their id documents and other bullshit for weeks/months while he knew very fucking well that that wasnt the problem. wtf was done with all those documents , a shady company like that worrisome to think of where and to who that info might have been sold to.
Now he's all like he didnt know bullshit bullshit!. plenty of people that didnt even work there knew and could see the writing on the walls read between the lines whatever.
He should just get a new handle and dump Horus because im sure im not the only that gets fing annoyed when i see that name popup in the trollbox like nothing happend joking around with the mods there .
January 04, 2017, 08:16:49 AM
Who wants to bet they are ALL still 100% active in crypto ?
With a slew of new accounts LOL
With a slew of new accounts LOL
^this is why i'm harping on this Horus thing>>while he is still running game on poloniex , all the while in the aftermath of his wake cryptsy victims flounder to grasping straws!!!
meh January 04, 2017, 07:53:12 AM
I'm sure that vern (coward) is reading posts here... laughs even, but all of this up to a day when it will also be the end!
January 04, 2017, 05:22:24 AM
The Lawyers are winning.
And how much did it cost so far? Or is it on a "no cure no pay" basis?it is based on a percentage same as the mtgox bankruptcy case
these lawyers are saying everything if you read between the lines
which is basically it is well known what occurred was illegal and in time all recovered funds will be distributed with a percentage paid for legal work in the recovery
If lawyers take it on a "no cure no pay" basis, then claimants have nothing to pay except court fees and there is a realistic chance to receive something, because otherwise lawyers would not take it on a percentage basis.
Vern want fully control in fund off cryptsy user + everything information need indeed .
Were he not going lending Court order way . ( or I say he not going support law order ),
He takeover everything in cryptsy soft data to physicals data
Are fully control in Vern .
If going to settlement . maybe Vern do that. In private n control way settlement with cryptsy user. . !
Just like old time 2014 he made fool to Court n law order . ( using weakness of system for profit + self defending. Own business too )
He also going bluff, this law firm too ( nothing new )
January 04, 2017, 02:04:07 AM
The Lawyers are winning.
And how much did it cost so far? Or is it on a "no cure no pay" basis?it is based on a percentage same as the mtgox bankruptcy case
these lawyers are saying everything if you read between the lines
which is basically it is well known what occurred was illegal and in time all recovered funds will be distributed with a percentage paid for legal work in the recovery
If lawyers take it on a "no cure no pay" basis, then claimants have nothing to pay except court fees and there is a realistic chance to receive something, because otherwise lawyers would not take it on a percentage basis.
January 04, 2017, 01:11:53 AM
@o0o0
Fuck yeah man.. my sentiment exactly put far more eloquently and to the point
@Mullick we really do need more.. Don't pull a BitJohn and NDA us with most of it then hide LOL
And..
@Mullick are you still "in" crypto ?
Involved in any projects or trading / holding any coins ?
How about comments on JSHock showing up on Social Media long after Cryptsy closed flogging RateCoin for Leroy Fodor ?
No NDA saying you can't comment on that buddy boy
I mean fuck any of those guys could respond to that... but they don't.
They ALL say a lot of shit then go quiet.
Who wants to bet they are ALL still 100% active in crypto ?
With a slew of new accounts LOL
Fuck yeah man.. my sentiment exactly put far more eloquently and to the point
@Mullick we really do need more.. Don't pull a BitJohn and NDA us with most of it then hide LOL
And..
@Mullick are you still "in" crypto ?
Involved in any projects or trading / holding any coins ?
How about comments on JSHock showing up on Social Media long after Cryptsy closed flogging RateCoin for Leroy Fodor ?
No NDA saying you can't comment on that buddy boy
I mean fuck any of those guys could respond to that... but they don't.
They ALL say a lot of shit then go quiet.
Who wants to bet they are ALL still 100% active in crypto ?
With a slew of new accounts LOL
January 03, 2017, 07:52:17 PM
so is mullick gone now? he offered to answer questions but tesponded to me once then left whats the go?
so was mullicks attempt here just a post to show he was helpful appearance wise for himself?
horus is boring now. dont take it the wrong way i dont want to target them ive just exhausted questions i had for horus. i dont like horus's ignorance of the issues at the time and how he held on knowing he should of exited but thats a dead horse now. he knows what others think, hes admitted he was dumb its in the open. im after new info and mullick is the wallet guy. he actually has info and i believe a lot is still not being told.
dcgirl is guilty of holding info too. i have pms from her saying theres other unnamed people that deserve ousting and i asked her to list those names in this thread. she said she might then disappeared.
mullick needs to address all questions like horus did. if he cant answer a question he should state i cant answer that question.
so was mullicks attempt here just a post to show he was helpful appearance wise for himself?
horus is boring now. dont take it the wrong way i dont want to target them ive just exhausted questions i had for horus. i dont like horus's ignorance of the issues at the time and how he held on knowing he should of exited but thats a dead horse now. he knows what others think, hes admitted he was dumb its in the open. im after new info and mullick is the wallet guy. he actually has info and i believe a lot is still not being told.
dcgirl is guilty of holding info too. i have pms from her saying theres other unnamed people that deserve ousting and i asked her to list those names in this thread. she said she might then disappeared.
mullick needs to address all questions like horus did. if he cant answer a question he should state i cant answer that question.
January 03, 2017, 07:01:31 PM
dude i flagged everyone i could from cryptsy and got a lifetime ban from the cryptsy trollbox for pointing out and making fun of the obvious liars and scammers at work i.e. Horus and company... !!!
lolzzzwhy is everyone still bashing Horus. he has been far more helpful tward the investigation then 99% of the people on this thread. with the exception of around 3-4 people.
yes he worked for a company that was a scam, but he accepts that and has helped fix the situation more then making up for his lack of insight into the inner workings of his employers.
if whoever you work for turns out to be embezzling money and is caught its not your responsibility. horus has done more then enough to make up for doing his job.
hell if it weren't for his help i doubt the class action lawsuit would even be possible.
so maybe instead of placing blame on him you should be thanking him for his help in resolving this.
lol he knew things were not right there for along time while claiming to be some customer security expert?... lmfao !!!
~dude as nice as he comes across -- Horus is guilty as the rest of them imho January 03, 2017, 06:18:48 PM
It's going to be interesting to see the outcome of the coinbase lawsuit. Anything from that will go to people who lost at cryptsy too. They may not get the full 8 million they're asking for, but anything is better than nothing. People just have to remember to actually email and join the class action. Even if you aren't in US, email and join. Some of the documents on the receivership website give proper instructions on how to join. Lawyers have to give 66.6% back to people. Even if you don't have screenshots, you may be able to get in on action with your word and swearing on how much you had. Worth a shot for sure.
^dude aren't YOU the grifter who helped steal the bitcoins!?--pay up now !
" A grifter is someone who swindles you through deception or fraud.
Synonyms include fraudster, con artist, cheater, confidence man, scammer, hustler, swindler, etc. "
You're beating a dead horse man.
If you bothered to read this thread, you would know that.
We all know I drank the koolaid and fucked up by believing my employer, that is already known.
You have added nothing of value to this thread.
In the meantime, I am one of 2 old employees who have done anything at all to help people recover some funds. Thunderjet, Gleb and Spoetnik have contributed as well. I know it isn't all of it, and because of my position I only had so much access which means I could only do so much. The other previous employee had much more access and has helped recover more funds than anyone.
Call scam some more, doesn't change anything.
When you have something of value to share, please feel free to do so.
We will all be waiting.
Fair enough i think..
And..
I'll answer any questions you have as long as they wont interfere with any open investigation into Paul Vernon
shit just got interesting....
It just got UN-interesting again.
has mullick stopped answering questions...?
It would seem so.. we're back to harping on Horus non stop i guess.
Even though he was not really one of the top guys behind this bullshit.
At least not in comparison to many of the others..
Just remember when you harp on Horus you are giving the pricks hiding watching and GUILTY a big smile.
They are laughing as the guy from Canada takes all the blame and they all continue to operate in the crypto scene free men. (and women)
Oh and i like to see my contribution to things as varied and diverse.
I have tried to get more info of interest put on these pages for us to read.
For example..
In talking with BitJohn i was able to get new info for us all to digest.
I am STILL very grateful for him taking the time to stick his neck out and speak up.
So..
If it was not for me it's unlikely you guys would have even known he left Cryptsy and much more.
He told us all because i asked him !
And what i hope people take away is not that Spoetnik is always right so follow him..
It's, use extreme caution in Crypto because it's warranted.
I said myself i too am susceptible to greed.. i prob would have wandered off with the money like Paul did too.
Tough to say when you are able to walk away with millions with no repercussions at all.
I am human and it would be mighty tempting.
Trust no one
January 03, 2017, 05:36:00 PM
dude i flagged everyone i could from cryptsy and got a lifetime ban from the cryptsy trollbox for pointing out and making fun of the obvious liars and scammers at work i.e. Horus and company... !!!
lolzzzwhy is everyone still bashing Horus. he has been far more helpful tward the investigation then 99% of the people on this thread. with the exception of around 3-4 people.
yes he worked for a company that was a scam, but he accepts that and has helped fix the situation more then making up for his lack of insight into the inner workings of his employers.
if whoever you work for turns out to be embezzling money and is caught its not your responsibility. horus has done more then enough to make up for doing his job.
hell if it weren't for his help i doubt the class action lawsuit would even be possible.
so maybe instead of placing blame on him you should be thanking him for his help in resolving this.
I'll +1 the above, having spoke with Horus in person on the phone a couple months back, hence removing virtually most, if not all doubts in re his involvement with Cryptsy, that in spite of me at least once royally sticking it up his Canadian Freemason haggis-exiting orifice.
January 03, 2017, 05:16:59 PM
dude i flagged everyone i could from cryptsy and got a lifetime ban from the cryptsy trollbox for pointing out and making fun of the obvious liars and scammers at work i.e. Horus and company... !!!
lolzzzwhy is everyone still bashing Horus. he has been far more helpful tward the investigation then 99% of the people on this thread. with the exception of around 3-4 people.
yes he worked for a company that was a scam, but he accepts that and has helped fix the situation more then making up for his lack of insight into the inner workings of his employers.
if whoever you work for turns out to be embezzling money and is caught its not your responsibility. horus has done more then enough to make up for doing his job.
hell if it weren't for his help i doubt the class action lawsuit would even be possible.
so maybe instead of placing blame on him you should be thanking him for his help in resolving this.
January 03, 2017, 04:34:33 PM
Who wants to live their life always looking over their shoulder? Afraid for his kids?
Maybe Perv Vern can co-opt Josh Garza's body guards. Garbanzo can't afford them any more.
January 03, 2017, 12:52:32 PM
I was just thinking that the high price of BTC lately has made Paul Vernon even more rich.
His theft proceeds have appreciated in value at least 2 fold.
Congrats BigVern you played the game well.. like that piece of shit from Gox.
Who said he was hacked then a little later told his lawyer to say he "found" a few hundred thousand BTC's on a usb drive stuffed in his couch cushions (no fucking joke he actually used that excuse)
Meanwhile Pauly boy played the game perfectly.
Never allow transparency and lie your ass off and cry Troll + FUD.
Claim all kinds of super duper hardcore extreme security tech..
Such as BitJohn's long explanations of how secure their cold storage system is here on the forum before.
Build a fan-base of millennials looking to cheerlead for a cause.. "my exchange is better than yours" types.
Then hire some happy go lucky yes men that will do anything until the end.. when your gone.
Because you took the money and ran for it.
And good for you..
Because there is no regulations then you all have fuck all to say about it really.
And when any of us cried for accountability or transparency you all chanted Troll.
I know i was harassed and banned for EXACTLY that on Cryptsy's troll box 50 times
and eventually perma banned essentially.
I told you so™
..since 2013 for fuck sakes !
Oh and YES i did warn people the exact same about Mt. Gox far faaaaar before it went down too.
And once again i was right..
His theft proceeds have appreciated in value at least 2 fold.
Congrats BigVern you played the game well.. like that piece of shit from Gox.
Who said he was hacked then a little later told his lawyer to say he "found" a few hundred thousand BTC's on a usb drive stuffed in his couch cushions (no fucking joke he actually used that excuse)
Meanwhile Pauly boy played the game perfectly.
Never allow transparency and lie your ass off and cry Troll + FUD.
Claim all kinds of super duper hardcore extreme security tech..
Such as BitJohn's long explanations of how secure their cold storage system is here on the forum before.
Build a fan-base of millennials looking to cheerlead for a cause.. "my exchange is better than yours" types.
Then hire some happy go lucky yes men that will do anything until the end.. when your gone.
Because you took the money and ran for it.
And good for you..
Because there is no regulations then you all have fuck all to say about it really.
And when any of us cried for accountability or transparency you all chanted Troll.
I know i was harassed and banned for EXACTLY that on Cryptsy's troll box 50 times
and eventually perma banned essentially.
I told you so™
..since 2013 for fuck sakes !
Oh and YES i did warn people the exact same about Mt. Gox far faaaaar before it went down too.
And once again i was right..
Spoetnik right in 2013.
Spoetnik right in 2014.
Spoetnik right in 2015.
Spoetnik right in 2016.
Spoetnik right in 2017? Mes guess si.
January 03, 2017, 12:50:39 PM
Question: How does one embezzle half a billion dollars and remain outta jail? Nevermind! I just remembered that Kraken's returning ALL the money.
^idk how did mark get no negative feedback?
lmao===>
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=489
Liar, liar, pants on fire! Goat gave MtGox a neg.
That said, like WTF! Dudes, somethin' doesn't smell right. Tens of thousands lose half a billion and ONLY 1 neg? As for Cryptsy, also tens of thousands lose moneys, yet very few, considering, comment on this thread. Further, Sonny Vleisides of BFL remains outta jail in spite of not adhering to his probation judge's final "or else" warning, Sonny being on probation as part of his sentence along with a ... wait for it ... $100 USD fine for bilking mostly the elderly to the tune of over $50M USD with his online lottery scheme.The only saving grace for Cryptsy's scammed clients is that they're in line for pennies on the dollar if and when the Class Action comes to a close unlike Sonny's lottery victims, some of which have literally died of old age, and Sonny's LFC's victims (some also pushing up daisies) thanks to the receiver of that fiasco, Johann Gevers, also an avid Bitcoiner.
I'm a South African-born entrepreneur with a lifelong passion for helping create a better life and world for everyone, by building essential infrastructure for a free society. CryptoFinance presents us with a unique opportunity to dramatically improve the quality of life of people everywhere – see The Age of CryptoFinance – How CryptoFinance Will Transform the World.
Fuck me in my unlubed ass and paint my ears purple (Read: WHATEVER!).
dude i flagged everyone i could from cryptsy and got a lifetime ban from the cryptsy trollbox for pointing out and making fun of the obvious liars and scammers at work i.e. Horus and company... !!!
lolzzz January 03, 2017, 11:11:47 AM
I was just thinking that the high price of BTC lately has made Paul Vernon even more rich.
His theft proceeds have appreciated in value at least 2 fold.
Congrats BigVern you played the game well.. like that piece of shit from Gox.
Who said he was hacked then a little later told his lawyer to say he "found" a few hundred thousand BTC's on a usb drive stuffed in his couch cushions (no fucking joke he actually used that excuse)
Meanwhile Pauly boy played the game perfectly.
Never allow transparency and lie your ass off and cry Troll + FUD.
Claim all kinds of super duper hardcore extreme security tech..
Such as BitJohn's long explanations of how secure their cold storage system is here on the forum before.
Build a fan-base of millennials looking to cheerlead for a cause.. "my exchange is better than yours" types.
Then hire some happy go lucky yes men that will do anything until the end.. when your gone.
Because you took the money and ran for it.
And good for you..
Because there is no regulations then you all have fuck all to say about it really.
And when any of us cried for accountability or transparency you all chanted Troll.
I know i was harassed and banned for EXACTLY that on Cryptsy's troll box 50 times
and eventually perma banned essentially.
I told you so™
..since 2013 for fuck sakes !
Oh and YES i did warn people the exact same about Mt. Gox far faaaaar before it went down too.
And once again i was right..
His theft proceeds have appreciated in value at least 2 fold.
Congrats BigVern you played the game well.. like that piece of shit from Gox.
Who said he was hacked then a little later told his lawyer to say he "found" a few hundred thousand BTC's on a usb drive stuffed in his couch cushions (no fucking joke he actually used that excuse)
Meanwhile Pauly boy played the game perfectly.
Never allow transparency and lie your ass off and cry Troll + FUD.
Claim all kinds of super duper hardcore extreme security tech..
Such as BitJohn's long explanations of how secure their cold storage system is here on the forum before.
Build a fan-base of millennials looking to cheerlead for a cause.. "my exchange is better than yours" types.
Then hire some happy go lucky yes men that will do anything until the end.. when your gone.
Because you took the money and ran for it.
And good for you..
Because there is no regulations then you all have fuck all to say about it really.
And when any of us cried for accountability or transparency you all chanted Troll.
I know i was harassed and banned for EXACTLY that on Cryptsy's troll box 50 times
and eventually perma banned essentially.
I told you so™
..since 2013 for fuck sakes !
Oh and YES i did warn people the exact same about Mt. Gox far faaaaar before it went down too.
And once again i was right..
January 03, 2017, 07:38:01 AM
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