Topic: Custom Porn and Bitcoin Story (Read 4861 times)

There definitely is a market for niches
Not sure which ones are the biggest in terms of market value but they said they do different types for different clients so by diversifying can get a good market base lol.
But I guess the above is classified as mature porn.
http://seit.unsw.adfa.edu.au/coursework/ZEIT3104/pdfs/tutorial/Niche%20marketing%20in%20the%20adult%20industry.pdf

Hmm guess that is an example of a niche list

• Alt porn features performers with tattoos, piercings, unusually colored hair, or who have a punk, goth, skinhead,
raver, etc. appearance.
• Anal porn features male-female and male-male anal sex scenes.
• Amateur porn features non-professional models. They often perform without pay, or it is their first paid modeling
work.
• Babes porn features very pretty girls (usually doing softcore).
• BBW porn features overweight or obese women.
• BDSM porn depicts bondage, domination, sadism and masochism.
• Big-breast porn features women with large breasts (either breast implants or naturally large breasts).
• Group porn features more than two people performing a sexual act.
• Hentai porn, or “porn anime,” is Japanese cartoon pornography.
• Leg and feet porn focuses on legs and feet.
• Mature porn features performers who over 40 years old.
• Race-oriented porn feature Latino, Black, Asian, European, etc. models.
• Teen porn features young or young-looking performers (18-22 years old).
The next step is to choose a niche you want to promote. For example, ‘foot fetish’ is a tremendously popular fetish,
so you will find a lot of websites dedicated to it. But if you check searches for ’gay foot fetish,’ you will see that there
are less sites catering to it. It may be a good choice for an adult niche site.

Keywords game
Finding good porn niches is all about keywords. Perform basic keyword search to determine if there is a market for a
niche you want to choose. You will immediately see what surfers are looking for.
Don’t forget to compare these results with the number of search results at Google or Yahoo for the same keywords

I think that a few porn stars will make pretty good money (possibly 6 figures per year), but even this much is not enough to support you for a lifetime. Not only that but most will make far from this amount.

I agree that there is some money to be made on "granny" porn (or other niche, unconventional types of porn), but I would think the amount to be made would be very, very little.

Plus if you make enough money when you are young, you really don't need to work when you get old. 

While the front-of-camera role likely favors the young (at least in terms of volume, tough I imagine there is a niche for granny porn as well), the back-of-camera and biz development roles favor experience. Perhaps a budding entrepreneur might make even more money by mentoring up-and-coming actors.

IOW: I think your skepticism reflects limited imagination.

I read the beginning and started smiling
Hmm I didn't know there was a sweater fetish well I learnt something today.

It's good it helps their business and they even took mirceas bounty ^_^.

Thanks for your responses, Saffron. It is a wonderful story.
Very few people have jobs that we really love.

I agree with you that this is a good story how it shows he advantages of accepting bitcoin when a business is paying huge amounts to have their payments processed in fiat. I do also have to agree with dKingston though as I thik the subjects of this story will have a hard time getting any kind of real job, and will not be able to continue to work in the porn industry as they get older.

Thanks for sharing your story (and other bits) Saffron; it's been quite inspirational. You both sound like very smart people and it's nice you've found your dream. It's taken me decades to find a career I really enjoy; I think some people never do.

Good luck with your business.

Hi everyone! Sorry I'm a little late to the thread, but I thought I'd address some of the questions people have been asking!


It's crazy how high the fees are! From what I've seen and experienced, the credit card processors take about 20%, then the big third party sites (like Clips4Sale and ELM) take an additional 20% on top in order for them to make money. It's great for us since there's basically no other way to accept sales other than going through them (normal payment processors refuse adult transactions and will lay the banhammer on you swiftly holding your money hostage). At least with the 3rd party sites, they send a ton of paying traffic our way so even at 40% in fees, it's still well worth it.


The rules are that you basically have to follow their rules and not sell content that they find "morally objectionable", though I've never found a comprehensive list of these rules and it seems like the only way to find out about them is when they come in and say your stuff is no bueno. Originally my site had a store where you could buy my clips with bitcoin through BitPay, but since the clips featured things like drug use, implied non-consent, and incest roleplay, we had to take down those clips. It was almost funny, every time they complained and told me I had to fix it, I'd take down the clips, resubmit for approval, then they'd have another list of clips I need to take down. Once it stopped being funny (very quickly), I just told them fuck it we'll just take down the whole store and only sell through Clips4Sale.

I think the huge fees come from the risk associated with accepting credit cards for porn. Chargebacks are rampant ("Honey, I have no idea what all these charges for clown incest sex websites are for, I'm calling the credit card company to dispute them right away!"), and I suspect porn is one of the number one uses for stolen credit cards. Even though I deal with my customers directly, its crazy the number of times that cards get declined for being associated with fraud, and then the customer disappears.


You're welcome, and feel free to spread my nakedness all over the interwebs!


We love what we do! Every day is amazing, we wake up, have breakfast together, walk the dogs, go to the gym, shoot a little video, then hang out on the internet smoking weed and watching Star Trek! All the while making more money sitting at home than we ever did working for other people, combined. Our plan is to remain entrepreneurs in the sex industry forever, and this is just the beginning. We're looking into erotica, sex toy affiliates, and even opening other studios! There's so much to do in this space, and we love it and could never go back, even if it means that we aren't necessarily the stars of our videos in the future

Porn is a very interesting commodity; it has unlimited demand but a limited-unlimited supply. You could never produce enough porn to satisfy an ever growing demand, so our job is basically just produce, produce, produce!


Nope! We've never sold bitcoin for fiat, and we have no plans to. Our situation right now is that the majority of our income comes in through fiat, so we use that to pay all our bills, then the rest goes into bitcoin. We only keep about 6 months worth of expenses in fiat just in case, but the dream is that eventually everything will come in through bitcoin and we'll only cash out enough dirty fiat dollars to pay off whatever thug-government controls our area. The big appeal for us is that bitcoin allows us to store our wealth in a way that no one could take it from us against our will. Secondary is that it makes our business far more efficient and far reaching, since a lot of what we do is contrary to the delicate sensibilities of the people in power.


It's actually interesting you mention that, since our wildest dreams are actually very attainable, I think. We're not really into possessions, we gave or threw away most of our possessions because they were cluttering our lives and making us miserable (we tried to sell a lot of it, but amazingly no one wanted our junk either ). We're basically living our dream right now; working only for ourselves, on the things we want to, doing what we love, which is porn. We eat, breathe, and live porn every single day. Our laptops are basically just porn and reddit machines (with a little bit of video rendering on top). The only thing that could really make us happier would be if we could get out of our little apartment and into a little house outside of Montreal where we could have peace and quiet and porn and access to Costco/Walmart. Money is largely irrelevant for us, since we don't really buy anything but necessities. That being said, making as much as we do means we don't really need to worry about how much things cost, which is really nice.

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text, but I hope that answers some questions! I'll be around if you have any more!

XO-Saffron

I don't expect them to have riches beyond their wildest dreams and they will be retiring after a few years of this.  I just appreciate the story for what it is and not saying this is the best decision they could make or even that I'd make this decision just to be clear.

I guess they have to, since this is their primary profession and there are bills to be paid.
Conversion costs are not too high. Plus they were paying 20-40% earlier just to receive payment.

But does the couple then take the bitcoin and convert it into fiat?  If so that would eat into the potential for income, just like paypal would.

They didn't really have problems receiving payments. The article talks about how others are not able to use paypal for their business and how others have had their paypal account frozen, but the couple in the article was able to get paid by the payment processors. Their issue what that the payment processors were taking so much of their sales that the couple was not reaching their full potential for income.

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I think the mail problem with what they are doing is that they will not be able to do it forever. As they get older they will be less desirable for their clientele and will likely get hired less frequently and get paid less for each "job" (no pun intended). They would likely need to eventually return to some kind of "day job" but it will be harder to do so after being in the industry that they are in.

This is great, to stay anonymous! Hopefully it goes big with nrop

They may be happy doing what they are doing, but how long can they continue this? 

If they are happy doing what they do then more power to them.  Looks like they are off to a good start and getting customers so another potential success story.  Interesting story going from a seemingly "normal" 9-5 type job to the porn industry and as a couple.  Sure it's not the first time but hey it still a bold move IMO. 

The article is not that long, but here's tldr version>
 Sexy Saffron and her husband living a normal life [She was a chef and her husband was a mechanical engineer]
 Husband loses job.
 They start porn biz
 They face problems receiving payments
 They start accepting payments in btc and prefer it over any other payment procedure.
END

I've been boring a friend silly over the last few months about Bitcoin. Finally I found something which got his interest.  

Thank you Sexy Saffron.





2/10 Please try harder.