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August 20, 2014, 07:38:55 AM
#94
Altcoin that suffer this kind of price dropped rarely ever come back. The developers might as well abandon the project and start from fresh.
It's actually sad to see who is holding that Eden signature. How can you even say 'altcoin' as in general for all coins. There is no rule that.
The developers should not abandon DRK at all. If you actually cared enough to do any research about it you would know why. The anonymity is there and it works, you can try it out yourself. You must realize that not all coins are the same. While the majority is copied and used for pump & dump purposes, that's why they don't recover.
You know that I'm right when you look at the market. The price bounced back quite nicely and I'm hoping that the trend will continue the next few days.

That guy probably isn't around long enough to differentiate the difference between PoW and PoS coin. Or Anon vs non-anon transaction.

So, from a newbie perspective, all coins are same to him.
legendary
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August 20, 2014, 07:30:43 AM
#93
Altcoin that suffer this kind of price dropped rarely ever come back. The developers might as well abandon the project and start from fresh.
It's actually sad to see who is holding that Eden signature. How can you even say 'altcoin' as in general for all coins. There is no rule that.
The developers should not abandon DRK at all. If you actually cared enough to do any research about it you would know why. The anonymity is there and it works, you can try it out yourself. You must realize that not all coins are the same. While the majority is copied and used for pump & dump purposes, that's why they don't recover.
You know that I'm right when you look at the market. The price bounced back quite nicely and I'm hoping that the trend will continue the next few days.
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August 20, 2014, 06:56:28 AM
#92
40% price jump today. There are still a lot of darkcoin supporters apparently.

I hope the developers do not cash out their holding on every rally.
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August 19, 2014, 06:33:30 AM
#91
yeah i know that, but still the difference between bitcoin and older crypto(i didn't read all the the article, but the old crypto didn't have block reaward/address/mining ecc...they work on a different bases, instead monero have only the cryptonote algo as something new) are very high compared to new coin and bitcoin, the latter are more of a clone, than the old one with bitcoin imho

for example you can't just say that bitcoin is a clone of electronic money

Monero uses the CryptoNote protocol, which is completely different from the Bitcoin protocol. It does use a different proof of work algorithm from Bitcoin, but that is inconsequential, as that is definitely not the key or only differentiator.

For example, what you think of as a "wallet" in Bitcoin is a group of private (spend) and public keys that belong to you. In Monero, a wallet only contains two private keys: a spend key and a view key. An "address" in Bitcoin is a base58 encoded hash of the public key associated with a particular private key inside a wallet. In Monero, an "address" is a base58 encoding of the serialised view and spend public keys.

Incidentally, "mining" in Bitcoin is merely proof of work, and Satoshi openly acknowledges in the Bitcoin whitepaper that it is based on Adam Back's Hashcash.

Therefore, just because it appears to be similar in concept and uses similar terminology does not mean that it is the same thing. Satoshi Nakamoto pulled many things together in Bitcoin, from a HashCash-derived proof of work system, to the blockchain which is, essentially, a Merkle tree that is not too dissimilar from what Ralph Merkle patented in 1979. Similarly, Monero certainly uses many of the theoretical principles espoused in Bitcoin, but it pulls many other cryptographic concepts together, such as its use of ring signatures (per the "group signatures" paper published by D. Chaum and E. van Heyst in 1991).
legendary
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August 19, 2014, 04:22:32 AM
#90
it's a semi-clone, it is based on block and reward and transaction with address, everything that shares those characteristics it's a semi-clone

at least it's not a pure clone yes

But that just means it shares common principles. Bitcoin used principles from Adam Back's Hashcash, blinded payments from DigiCash, and several other virtual currencies that preceded it. Here is a good article that is a starting point if you're interested: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/12241/quick-history-cryptocurrencies-bbtc-bitcoin/

I think it's important to make a distinction between something that builds on the theoretical foundation of Bitcoin, yet shares no common code with it, and something that merely inherits Bitcoin's code and adds a few features. I do not think calling the former a "semi-clone" is valid, any more than I think it's fair to call Bitcoin a semi-clone of DigiCash;)

yeah i know that, but still the difference between bitcoin and older crypto(i didn't read all the the article, but the old crypto didn't have block reaward/address/mining ecc...they work on a different bases, instead monero have only the cryptonote algo as something new) are very high compared to new coin and bitcoin, the latter are more of a clone, than the old one with bitcoin imho

for example you can't just say that bitcoin is a clone of electronic money
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August 19, 2014, 03:54:24 AM
#89
The price breaks $2 and holding. There may still be hope on the coin.
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August 19, 2014, 02:05:56 AM
#88
it's a semi-clone, it is based on block and reward and transaction with address, everything that shares those characteristics it's a semi-clone

at least it's not a pure clone yes

But that just means it shares common principles. Bitcoin used principles from Adam Back's Hashcash, blinded payments from DigiCash, and several other virtual currencies that preceded it. Here is a good article that is a starting point if you're interested: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/12241/quick-history-cryptocurrencies-bbtc-bitcoin/

I think it's important to make a distinction between something that builds on the theoretical foundation of Bitcoin, yet shares no common code with it, and something that merely inherits Bitcoin's code and adds a few features. I do not think calling the former a "semi-clone" is valid, any more than I think it's fair to call Bitcoin a semi-clone of DigiCash;)
legendary
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August 19, 2014, 01:28:32 AM
#87
The money is moving into the XMR market as far as I know.

xmr is dying too, the money are on ethereum or just there aren't money...

Today change +2.77

src bitcoinwisdom; not sure why you call it dying.

was at 500ks now at 300ks, this is 40% loss, i couldn't care less about the daily change, i always look it by a global pov

So then Bitcoin is also dead in your view, since it suffered more than a 50% loss from November.

well no bitcoin is an exception to this, because it is not a clone

Monero isn't a clone of Bitcoin, so I guess that puts it in the same boat, wouldn't you agree?

it's a semi-clone, it is based on block and reward and transaction with address, everything that shares those characteristics it's a semi-clone

at least it's not a pure clone yes
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August 19, 2014, 01:07:23 AM
#86
Can consider this coin officially dead.

If aurora coin is any guide, darkcoin will fade away in 2-3 months.

Sorry but why would auroracoin be any guide?

Because Aurora coin spike up quick and fade away equally fast. Darkcoin is going through the same process right now.
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August 19, 2014, 12:24:07 AM
#85
Pro-Tip :
-snip-
6 - Buy a dildo.
7 - ??
How exactly is this related to DRK. There was some serious market manipulation, it can't be avoided. Some big but yet weak hands have left the coin. I was expecting it a bit but not by such a margin.
DRK is far from being dead, but we will see if and just how much it will recover.

Altcoin that suffer this kind of price dropped rarely ever come back. The developers might as well abandon the project and start from fresh.
legendary
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August 18, 2014, 04:22:50 PM
#84
Pro-Tip :
-snip-
6 - Buy a dildo.
7 - ??
How exactly is this related to DRK. There was some serious market manipulation, it can't be avoided. Some big but yet weak hands have left the coin. I was expecting it a bit but not by such a margin.
DRK is far from being dead, but we will see if and just how much it will recover.
legendary
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August 18, 2014, 04:09:44 PM
#83

Pro-Tip :

1 - Buy BTC during dump

2 - Buy Nxt + XMR during dump

3 - Sell Nxt & XMR during pump

4 - Repeat 1 & 2

5 - Cash out.

6 - Buy a dildo.

7 - ??


8 - profit
legendary
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Merit: 1131
August 18, 2014, 03:43:18 PM
#82

Pro-Tip :

1 - Buy BTC during dump

2 - Buy Nxt + XMR during dump

3 - Sell Nxt & XMR during pump

4 - Repeat 1 & 2

5 - Cash out.

6 - Buy a dildo.

7 - ??
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Merit: 1060
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August 18, 2014, 03:25:56 PM
#81
The money is moving into the XMR market as far as I know.

xmr is dying too, the money are on ethereum or just there aren't money...

Today change +2.77

src bitcoinwisdom; not sure why you call it dying.

was at 500ks now at 300ks, this is 40% loss, i couldn't care less about the daily change, i always look it by a global pov

So then Bitcoin is also dead in your view, since it suffered more than a 50% loss from November.

well no bitcoin is an exception to this, because it is not a clone

Monero isn't a clone of Bitcoin, so I guess that puts it in the same boat, wouldn't you agree?
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
August 18, 2014, 02:46:13 PM
#80
kid lol? don't shoot sentence without knowing shit plz, and yes it make sense, you can't compare bitcoin to all those garbabe that are dumped for bitcoin

I'm pretty sure he's just trolling... Nobody can be that stupid.
legendary
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Merit: 1070
August 18, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
#79
The money is moving into the XMR market as far as I know.

xmr is dying too, the money are on ethereum or just there aren't money...

Today change +2.77

src bitcoinwisdom; not sure why you call it dying.

was at 500ks now at 300ks, this is 40% loss, i couldn't care less about the daily change, i always look it by a global pov

So then Bitcoin is also dead in your view, since it suffered more than a 50% loss from November.

well no bitcoin is an exception to this, because it is not a clone

Makes no sense, but ok. There can be No exceptions, stop trying to make up excuses kid.

kid lol? don't shoot sentence without knowing shit plz, and yes it make sense, you can't compare bitcoin to all those garbabe that are dumped for bitcoin
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August 18, 2014, 02:31:17 PM
#78
We could make a bet(have an escrow), and we'll see who's right in 6 months. I'll be looking forward to it. Your point was proved entirely wrong already.

Really? This is how you answer my question? You're a fucking idiot.

You seem incapable of understanding things...

You can't say XMR is dead, especially when the coin We both hold the most(darkcoin) has dropped over 1,000% from it's ATH, and over 50% in the last few days alone and XMR is the only anon without a premine and has a fair distribution, and one of the few coins overall that has a fair distribution.... Not to mention your entire view on the subject makes no sense, since the cryptocurrency sector isnt known by mainstream society.

I never said XMR was dead you dumb troll. I said it was dying, because it is. If you don't want people to rag on you for being an idiot, don't say idiotic things like "Litecoin is dead."

I know you think you are making some grand point worth paying attention to, but all you are actually saying is, "I don't understand what 'dead' means" and "I overdramatize things for the benefit of my own ego."

Ok sir, by your definition you'd have to propose that Bitcoin, and every other cryptocurrency is also dead. Bitcoin had a 50% drop swiftly after it's rise in November.
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August 18, 2014, 02:27:03 PM
#77
The money is moving into the XMR market as far as I know.

xmr is dying too, the money are on ethereum or just there aren't money...

Today change +2.77

src bitcoinwisdom; not sure why you call it dying.

was at 500ks now at 300ks, this is 40% loss, i couldn't care less about the daily change, i always look it by a global pov

So then Bitcoin is also dead in your view, since it suffered more than a 50% loss from November.

well no bitcoin is an exception to this, because it is not a clone

Makes no sense, but ok. There can be No exceptions, stop trying to make up excuses kid.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
August 18, 2014, 02:21:24 PM
#76
The money is moving into the XMR market as far as I know.

xmr is dying too, the money are on ethereum or just there aren't money...

Today change +2.77

src bitcoinwisdom; not sure why you call it dying.

was at 500ks now at 300ks, this is 40% loss, i couldn't care less about the daily change, i always look it by a global pov

So then Bitcoin is also dead in your view, since it suffered more than a 50% loss from November.

well no bitcoin is an exception to this, because it is not a clone
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 500
August 18, 2014, 02:19:57 PM
#75
We could make a bet(have an escrow), and we'll see who's right in 6 months. I'll be looking forward to it. Your point was proved entirely wrong already.

Really? This is how you answer my question? You're a fucking idiot.

You seem incapable of understanding things...

You can't say XMR is dead, especially when the coin We both hold the most(darkcoin) has dropped over 1,000% from it's ATH, and over 50% in the last few days alone and XMR is the only anon without a premine and has a fair distribution, and one of the few coins overall that has a fair distribution.... Not to mention your entire view on the subject makes no sense, since the cryptocurrency sector isnt known by mainstream society.
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