Topic: Dash, most viewed thread .. least talked about thread, why ? (Read 2269 times)

Thanks! I'll wait for the news.

See https://getmonero.org/design-goals/, under research goals. It's far away though, but will be there in the future

Not to mention business competitors. I'm a fan of transparency at gut level, but I see the other side of the question. If you were running a business, would you be comfortable with your competitors being able to trace what you bought and when? Plus, who you paid and when?

If you're running (say) a convenience store, you might not mind at all: the value-added of a convenience store is convenience. (I might well pay double for a Coke & chips if it means I don't have to spend the added time in a big-box and travel the added distance.)  But if you're running a dollar store, where the competitive advantage is buying your supplies cheap, you might mind.

If you're running a start-up - or preparing to - you might mind an awful lot. If you're the head of a company lab whose value-added is patenting, you will mind an awful lot.

So there's a glaringly definite use case for stealth addresses, particularly if open ledgers mean a push towards ultra-transparency in the business world. That's why I'm keeping an eye on the Cryptonote world for any sign that Assets or colored coins are going to be added. 

https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-strategy-update.5636/

FTFY

Yeah, I've read that one and I imagine you think a "viewkey" is analogous to taking a gemstone out of your pocket and showing that it's real or some similar concept. Interesting story but wrong conclusion.

(CLUE: Monero is the pocket, not the gemstone).

I know you can't point to any flaw, but "monetary media?" Do you really think corporate ease has ever made anyone sound more intelligent than they actually are?

Here's a good analysis of money without any pretentious jargon or logical fallacies:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3cgtvb/pondering_the_true_meaning_of_money_special/

You're confusing the monetary media itself with the accounting records for such.

Stealth addresses do not render transactions invisible, so anyone can check and validate that there aren't double spends and other flaws that might skew your or anyone else's transactions. This is the flaw that zerocash has and you must have somehow lopped the flaw onto all opaque blockchains.

That brings me around to your first comment:

Cash works by being backed by a government, but allows you to carry your money with you without anyone else being aware of how much you have or where (if you are careful) you spent it. Monero and other opaque blockchains take care of this by being verified or backed by math and takes care of your finances being private through stealth addresses.

I'm assuming that you think all wallets should be audit-able by anyone anytime and wallets that are only verifiable by permission are inferior as a monetary system.  Your presumption that this is the only way money can work misses two points. First, open wallets expose everyone's balance to thieves, hackers, the mafia, and a whole host of other dangerous characters besides the obligatory mention of LEA. Secondly, when you go to audit these open addresses, you most likely aren't going to  take the numerous hours, days, weeks, to verify each wallet by hand and make sure they check out, so you'll use a program that validates the amounts are correct with math--as you can see you are now using math in the background to verify the money that you think should be only verifiable by human eyes. Of course it would be easier to do this kind of human verification by going onto Github and verify that the opensource math that runs Monero, and other opaque blockchains, is correct.

Evan is everywhere from National tv channels world wide to very known  crypto websites; while smooth  and Fluffy pony creating new threads about how Evan needs to go to jail and how a bad boy he is
From ALL the other coins only monero with their so called developer crying out loud in forums about dash.
I feel for them since their Ann thread is dead and their joke speculation  Thread here is all about I think the price going up to day no wait  I think the price might go down ofc without any technical  or crypto development from smooth or fluffy lol.
Here is the kicker if and this is a big IF smooth or fluffy pony did create master nodes or instant  transactions they would be all over the place here with monero ppl here praising how innovative and how smart they are..we call it hypocrisy
And ofc these two are no real developers with no class at all...again if you want a real developer with proven history of doing real crypto work Evan if you want real crypto forums wanna be developers you can go with smooth and Fluffy.

don't fall for it, astrobitch acct here is controlled by one of the '3-4 users and around 12-15 shill accounts with same writing style'

take this: "i actually use this board to study and keep track of the behaviour of few profiles posting around here, for a research about communication"

Now, why would anyone ever do such a thing ... ?

One of your supporters started this thread himself? Don't get mad if it backfires, you could expect this. Also, the first responder isn't even a Monero supporter.

as soon dash price is up more than 10%, the monero fuck tards revamp old posts and shill accounts to vomit the same shit over and over again.

if you run a crawler targeting the dash-instamine-scam bullshit posts, you'll get 3-4 users and around 12-15 shill accounts with same writing style, timestamps and other factors to link them.

...if all you're building is a cryptographic bookkeeping system.

In addition, fluffypony pointed out some of the caveats in this post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2zufu1/a_great_podcast_by_lets_talk_bitcoin_discussing/cpmvogy

Although biased by being a XMR core team member, he makes some good points with solid arguments. Just stating this here so others can examine the information themselves.

personally i avoid it becuase of the scampart.
I am long enough in cryptocoin to know how this ends.
There are a lot of other coins, so why should i lower my chance of succsess by ignoring the scampart?
Does not make sense for me.

I am just uninterested in this coin.
Repeating the scampart to dash fans, is a waste of time for me and them too.
The time can be better used.

greetings

They maybe don't in your little deluded definition of what money is and how it works.

But they in fact do - they were designed for exactly that purpose.

Stealth addresses do not make the coinbase invisible, moron.

The reason the thread is the most viewed and least talked about is because Dash is a maverick outsider which broke a couple of "family rules" and therefore shouldn't be successful in the eyes of some people, so they feel justified in giving it a good kicking at every opportunity

Despite that, it is successful - both in marketcap terms (whether you see that as a measure of success or not) and in acheiving its technical objectives.

It is, for example, the only coin to directly address bitcoin's fungibility deficiencies without otherwise compromising on the protocol. So called "stealth" coins who's technology was designed for doing fiat bookkeeping are no competition in this regard. They try to get away with selling the lie that "invisibility" equals fungibility which it does not. Dash has taken a lot of stick over this and come out winning both the technical argument and consolidated its position in the marketplace.


It may not be a "great indicator" in absolute terms, but it is in relative terms when your talking about coins that had to work their way up the rankings from a low level, which have survived a massive pump and dump phase in their evolution and whose revaluations directly correspond to the pricing in of large amounts of development effort.

Are you kidding with this? Aside from your own thread I've seen at least two today made by people trying to pump DASH by spreading a rumour the group who pumped LTC will pump it next.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chinese-litecoin-direct-sales-team-is-now-on-dash-true-1117451
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ltc-pump-group-are-gonna-pump-dash-when-they-are-done-pumping-ltc-1116190