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Topic: [DASH] What happened to Masternode Blinding? [DARKSEND UNUSABLE] (Read 3406 times)

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Dash.... nothing but massive instamine fraud, broken tech, and broken promises Sad

legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
I'm not even convincing myself any more.

Yeah, coming up with a better idea is always a bad thing.

There's no peer review to flesh out whether it is a good, bad, or similar idea. Now, taking the word of a man who claims that a flawed launch was due to incompetence rather than outright deception is a bad thing (at least from an investment standpoint).
hero member
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Yes of course  Roll Eyes  And i'm sure it will make you breakfast every morning too.

It's a negative announcement because once again eduffield has nothing but excuses to offer after failing to implement the masternode blinding he confirmed was working, delaying it for another 12-18 months

If this latest scandal should have taught you anything it's that eduffield's word is worth absolutely nothing. But i guess you went with the lifetime cult member package.

Yeah, coming up with a better idea is always a bad thing.


Keep drinking the kool-aid
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I'm not even convincing myself any more.

Yeah, coming up with a better idea is always a bad thing.
hero member
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I did some searching on DashTalk and I found out what happened to Masternode Blinding. Whatever the case, anything longer than Instant Mixing is unacceptable.

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DAPI will also include a vastly improved version of masternode blinding. All requests through the system can be blinded, so that they are redirected through the system to a masternode that doesn’t have any direct contact with the end user. This is the reason we will not be building masternode-blinding into the v12 client.

Source: https://dashtalk.org/threads/development-update-oct-19-2015.6429/


So he uses Bitcointalk to make positive announcements

and he uses Dashtalk to make negative announcements

You should probably learn how to read. "DAPI will also include a vastly improved version of masternode blinding." is hardly a  negative announcement.


Yes of course  Roll Eyes  And i'm sure it will make you breakfast every morning too.

It's a negative announcement because once again eduffield has nothing but excuses to offer after failing to implement the masternode blinding he confirmed was working, delaying it for another 12-18 months

If this latest scandal should have taught you anything it's that eduffield's word is worth absolutely nothing. But i guess you went with the lifetime cult member package.
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I did some searching on DashTalk and I found out what happened to Masternode Blinding. Whatever the case, anything longer than Instant Mixing is unacceptable.

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DAPI will also include a vastly improved version of masternode blinding. All requests through the system can be blinded, so that they are redirected through the system to a masternode that doesn’t have any direct contact with the end user. This is the reason we will not be building masternode-blinding into the v12 client.

Source: https://dashtalk.org/threads/development-update-oct-19-2015.6429/


So he uses Bitcointalk to make positive announcements

and he uses Dashtalk to make negative announcements

You should probably learn how to read. "DAPI will also include a vastly improved version of masternode blinding." is hardly a  negative announcement.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
I'm not a big fan of DASH for various reasons. Mainly cuz of the Premine stuff.


A dev has only so many hours in the day to work on various projects. Masternode blinding is probably achievable, but it is getting delayed off because the DASH devs are prioritizing other stuff. The question you should ask is how are development resources being allocated.


It is my theory that DASH will do whatever is "trendy". Decentralized consensus is trendy. Privacy doesn't make the cut anymore, especially with regulatory attention on crypto. DASH wants to be mainstream. Its not darkcoin anymore, its fast scalable and smart, nobody is investing in any fintech privacy unicorns. Fast transactions isnt going to cut it either. Get ready for a name change.

THEORY CONFIRMED:

Segregated Witness is super useful for Dash Evolution, we can use it to make decentralized SPV more efficient.

"Sorry we won't have masternode blinding and get anon tx times under 20-72 hours for another 10 years."

"Masternode blinding is working fine on my secret testnet, but it's more important to prioritize [SHINY NEW OBJECT]."

/Duffsplanation
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I'm not a big fan of DASH for various reasons. Mainly cuz of the Premine stuff. Here is my thoughts for what its worth.


A dev has only so many hours in the day to work on various projects. Masternode blinding is probably achievable, but it is getting delayed off because the DASH devs are prioritizing other stuff. The question you should ask is how are development resources being allocated.


It is my theory that DASH will do whatever is "trendy". Decentralized consensus is trendy. Privacy doesn't make the cut anymore, especially with regulatory attention on crypto. DASH wants to be mainstream. Its not darkcoin anymore, its fast scalable and smart, nobody is investing in any fintech privacy unicorns. Fast transactions isnt going to cut it either. Get ready for a name change.
 
Xcoin (x11) -> Darkcoin (Privacy) -> DASH (instant transactions) -> Huh (DAPI)

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That being said, use whatever coin makes you happy, I accepting dash on my sites. Just saying it like it is.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
"The Nort American Bitcoin Conference 21 & 22 January 2016 in Miami"

To be honest its not all that surprising to see Evan Duffield, lead developer of Dash mentioned there
as most of us remember him from the Proof of Honor Award of 2014





It is traditional for the Miami NABC to troll the community by giving a platform to one notorious scammer.

This year it was Josh Garza of GAW and Paycoin.

Next year it's Evan Duffield's turn to peddle his Dash Masternode HYIP and Evolusham snake oil.

As for the "Proof of Honor" let's remember that Coins Source is not only pushing the Neucoin scam, but also literally for sale to the highest bidder.  IOW, they are the perfect entity to confer fake credentials and hype on shitcoins.

I wonder how much Duffield paid them for his mail-order degree in Scamology?   Grin
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Eduffield has already proven that he has no respect for DASH holders, or anyone for that matter. Eduffield only cares about eduffield.

After all the hype and promises about masternode blinding "working" and being "quite impressive", he can't even admit he failed at implementing it. Instead, he says it's "delayed because mobile wallets", then the next "delay" is only mentioned on the Dashtalk forum, where this time it's "delayed for 12-18 months because devolution"

So since eduffield can't be bothered to respond to legitimate questions about his broken promises of masternode blinding, let me ask the Dash believers (if there are still any left): what makes you think eduffield will deliver on his current promises?  
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Mixing Dash is actually very simple.

1) Sell Dash for XMR on Poloniex
2) Send XMR to own XMR address
3) Send XMR to a second XMR address with a mixin of say 5
4) Sell XMR for Dash on Shapeshift.io

Voila! Mixed Dash. No need to wait for weeks or worry about masternode blinding.

Edit: When sending the XMR to Shapeshift.io also use a mixin of say 5

What does "mixin" mean with XMR? Does Monero also use mixers to mix coins?


mixin - the amount of outputs taken from the block chain to mix with your outputs in your wallet.

So if you have the following outputs and want to send 431XMR:


1XMR
30XMR
400XMR

with a mixin of 5....

you will get 5 - 1 xmr outputs
                5 - 30 xmr ouputs
                 5 - 400xmr outputs

to mix with.

Outputs are broken down into powers of 10 so there is a mixable set on the block chain.

There is more to the privacy when you read the monero lab papers. The math backs the claims of using mixins at different levels.

Probably not the best explanation but that's my understanding of how it works based on reviewing the code.


Mixing can be done completely offline (generating the transaction) and you do not need other parties to mix with like with Dash/Coinjoin etc.
hero member
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Mixing Dash is actually very simple.

1) Sell Dash for XMR on Poloniex
2) Send XMR to own XMR address
3) Send XMR to a second XMR address with a mixin of say 5
4) Sell XMR for Dash on Shapeshift.io

Voila! Mixed Dash. No need to wait for weeks or worry about masternode blinding.

Edit: When sending the XMR to Shapeshift.io also use a mixin of say 5

What does "mixin" mean with XMR? Does Monero also use mixers to mix coins?
sr. member
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I find this thread funny. A Monero troll circle-jerk. No one cares except you sideshow clowns! You are just annoying everybody else with your spam agenda.

Did that take you twenty hours to come up with?

I think it is a genuine question that should be answered by Evan.

And not with the excuse "well it's not that important".

The problem with that response is that it totally undermines the original reason he was selling/hyping that particular feature of Dark/Dash back then and all of his yuppies were "hooray"-ing about it.

Now some of those same people appear to think Evan not delivering on his own words is "irrelevant".

Some people like to get lied to? Undecided

I would also like to hear Evans reason for dropping this. Show DASH supporters the respect the deserve by explaining why your plans changed.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I find this thread funny. A Monero troll circle-jerk. No one cares except you sideshow clowns! You are just annoying everybody else with your spam agenda.

Did that take you twenty hours to come up with?

I think it is a genuine question that should be answered by Evan.

And not with the excuse "well it's not that important".

The problem with that response is that it totally undermines the original reason he was selling/hyping that particular feature of Dark/Dash back then and all of his yuppies were "hooray"-ing about it.

Now some of those same people appear to think Evan not delivering on his own words is "irrelevant".

Some people like to get lied to? Undecided
legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
I find this thread funny. A Monero troll circle-jerk. No one cares except you sideshow clowns! You are just annoying everybody else with your spam agenda.

Did that take you twenty hours to come up with?
hero member
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Not sure what you conspiracy theorists are going on about.

This thread is a sincere effort to understand what happened to the working and "impressive" masternode blinding, which was supposed to make your suuuuuper-slooooow mixing up to 80% faster. Instead it looks like eduffield completely FAILED to deliver and didn't post a single message about it on BCT

Seeing you Dash-holes talk about spam is pretty much the funniest thing ever. Look at all the anti-xmr threads you idiots are constantly bumping, and you have the nerve to talk about spam.  This isn't even a spam thread, it's a question about what happened to a feature that was widely announced by your own dev team.  

We definitely will see how it all ends. Right now it's not looking good for DASH - rebranded from privacy coin to "Social experiment" coin as soon as Evan realized he couldn't implement usable mixing  Cheesy

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legendary
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I find this thread funny. A Monero troll circle-jerk. No one cares except you sideshow clowns! You are just annoying everybody else with your spam agenda.
legendary
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On behalf of the Dash community we want to thank OP for creating this Dash related thread
which brings us the opportunity to further discuss Dash related topics....

So without further due we bring to you all a bit of Dash news we are all very excited about :

"The Nort American Bitcoin Conference 21 & 22 January 2016 in Miami"



Who do we find as speaker ?



To be honest its not all that surprising to see Evan Duffield, lead developer of Dash mentioned there
as most of us remember him from the Proof of Honor Award of 2014



All that rest us to say then is :

"See you in Miami"
Credits to @alex-ru Productions:
Credits to tungfa




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legendary
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Poor altcoin discussion section, bombarded non-stop with Anti-Dash troll threads .. i wonder what the end-result will be.
oh wait, let me make a prediction : this whole altcoin discussion section (excluding the monero trolls of course) will start to
really really dislike OP and most likely the Monero community itself too ....

Great strategy guys, i'm sure it will work as effectively as all your previously executed strategies  Roll Eyes

    
hero member
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Darksend is a joke of a solution, i can't believe how long it takes to mix coins. The dash dev team really doesn't care about its users if its only planning on improving Darksend in 12-18 months.

Can you tell me what the point of DASH is again besides to enable an instamine for Evan?
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