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Adam Back: Sidechains Can Replace Altcoins and ‘Bitcoin 2.0′ Platforms
Kyle Torpey 10/04/2014
Bitcoin Sidechains
Bitcoin sidechains could be used to replace that hundreds of altcoins and “Bitcoin 2.0″ platforms that have popped up over the past few years.
It’s no secret that I’m not the biggest fan of altcoins, and I’ll try to hold back my excitement about this new project from Adam Back, the creator of Bitcoin’s proof-of-work system, and Austin Hill that could be the perfect way to finally achieve “Bitcoin 2.0“. There are plenty of projects out there today, such as Mastercoin, Counterparty, BitShares, and others who are trying to create the second generation of cryptocurrencies, but these two gentlemen seem to believe that there’s no reason to create a new altcoin when we already have Bitcoin. While there are a few other niche coins that have gained value due to some pretty cool added features, none of them can take down the main value proposition of Bitcoin, which is its network effect. Altcoins have been an amazing area of innovation for cryptocurrency over the past few years, but it makes sense to combine all of these new features into one ecosystem instead of creating a situation where you have to buy a new coin if you want to use a certain feature. For example, you shouldn’t need to use Mastercoin if you want to use a distributed asset exchange, and you shouldn’t need to switch over to Zerocoin if you want some extra anonymity in your transactions. This latest concept of Bitcoin 2.0 would keep all of these new features inside the Bitcoin network through the use of sidechains.
More Innovation, Less Altcoins
With this new system of sidechains, innovation would be able to take place on the Bitcoin network without having to worry about the entire system collapsing. One of the main reasons that there aren’t more features added to Bitcoin on a regular basis is that introducing one new bug could take down the entire $6 billion market. Sidechains allow innovation to take place in the Bitcoin network without putting the entire system at risk. If something goes wrong on one of the sidechains, only the bitcoins in that sidechain are lost, and the entire Bitcoin network can continue to flourish.
Altcoins have actually been quite suitable for testing new innovations in the cryptocurrency space, but the main issue with these new cryptocoins is that they break up the overall network effect of this new technology. You shouldn’t have to buy into a new altcoin just because you want faster confirmation times or the ability to use some new, unique smart contracts. It’s possible to bring all of these features to Bitcoin by using a two-way peg system. This means you could move your bitcoins from the original blockchain to a new sidechain in order to gain the added features of that sidechain without having to switch into a completely new currency. For example, you may have your savings in cold storage on the original Bitcoin blockchain, but it could make sense to pay for your morning coffee on a sidechain that focuses on enabling microtransactions. Bitcoins retain their original value on each one of the sidechains, and this system also preserves the idea of having a hard limit on 21 million bitcoins that can be sent through all of the different sidechains rather than inflating the total number of cryptocoins with each new feature.
The Real Bitcoin 2.0?
I’ve been following the Bitcoin 2.0 space for quite some time, and the projects that usually get me more excited than anything else are the ones that are coin agonstic. This is why Colored Coins and Open Transactions have been two of my favorite new platforms in this space. The main issue with other types of projects is that users will have to buy into a new cryptocurrency to use some of the new features involved in those platforms. For example, you need to purchase XCP if you wish to issue assets or place financial bets on the Counterparty platform. The main issue here is that the bitcoin is the cryptocurrency with the largest network effect and most liquidity. This means it also comes with the most stable price. When it comes to using new features in the cryptocurrency space, people will still want to use the currency that comes with the least amount of volatility. There is no point in trying to do contracts for difference or microtransactions in a currency that is much more volatile than the bitcoin. Due to the fact that this project is coin agnostic and is being put together by Adam Back, Austin Hill, and a number of different Bitcoin core developers, I have to think that we are finally looking at the project that deserves the title of “Bitcoin 2.0″.
Make sure to listen to Adam B. Levine’s full interview with Adam Back and Austin Hill from episode 99 of Let’s Talk Bitcoin. You can also find a breakdown of some of the main points made in the interview from Tim Swanson’s blog.
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Quelle: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/adam-back-sidechains-can-replace-altcoins-bitcoin-2-0-platforms/2014/04/10
Adam Back: Sidechains Can Replace Altcoins and ‘Bitcoin 2.0′ Platforms
Kyle Torpey 10/04/2014
Bitcoin Sidechains
Bitcoin sidechains could be used to replace that hundreds of altcoins and “Bitcoin 2.0″ platforms that have popped up over the past few years.
It’s no secret that I’m not the biggest fan of altcoins, and I’ll try to hold back my excitement about this new project from Adam Back, the creator of Bitcoin’s proof-of-work system, and Austin Hill that could be the perfect way to finally achieve “Bitcoin 2.0“. There are plenty of projects out there today, such as Mastercoin, Counterparty, BitShares, and others who are trying to create the second generation of cryptocurrencies, but these two gentlemen seem to believe that there’s no reason to create a new altcoin when we already have Bitcoin. While there are a few other niche coins that have gained value due to some pretty cool added features, none of them can take down the main value proposition of Bitcoin, which is its network effect. Altcoins have been an amazing area of innovation for cryptocurrency over the past few years, but it makes sense to combine all of these new features into one ecosystem instead of creating a situation where you have to buy a new coin if you want to use a certain feature. For example, you shouldn’t need to use Mastercoin if you want to use a distributed asset exchange, and you shouldn’t need to switch over to Zerocoin if you want some extra anonymity in your transactions. This latest concept of Bitcoin 2.0 would keep all of these new features inside the Bitcoin network through the use of sidechains.
More Innovation, Less Altcoins
With this new system of sidechains, innovation would be able to take place on the Bitcoin network without having to worry about the entire system collapsing. One of the main reasons that there aren’t more features added to Bitcoin on a regular basis is that introducing one new bug could take down the entire $6 billion market. Sidechains allow innovation to take place in the Bitcoin network without putting the entire system at risk. If something goes wrong on one of the sidechains, only the bitcoins in that sidechain are lost, and the entire Bitcoin network can continue to flourish.
Altcoins have actually been quite suitable for testing new innovations in the cryptocurrency space, but the main issue with these new cryptocoins is that they break up the overall network effect of this new technology. You shouldn’t have to buy into a new altcoin just because you want faster confirmation times or the ability to use some new, unique smart contracts. It’s possible to bring all of these features to Bitcoin by using a two-way peg system. This means you could move your bitcoins from the original blockchain to a new sidechain in order to gain the added features of that sidechain without having to switch into a completely new currency. For example, you may have your savings in cold storage on the original Bitcoin blockchain, but it could make sense to pay for your morning coffee on a sidechain that focuses on enabling microtransactions. Bitcoins retain their original value on each one of the sidechains, and this system also preserves the idea of having a hard limit on 21 million bitcoins that can be sent through all of the different sidechains rather than inflating the total number of cryptocoins with each new feature.
The Real Bitcoin 2.0?
I’ve been following the Bitcoin 2.0 space for quite some time, and the projects that usually get me more excited than anything else are the ones that are coin agonstic. This is why Colored Coins and Open Transactions have been two of my favorite new platforms in this space. The main issue with other types of projects is that users will have to buy into a new cryptocurrency to use some of the new features involved in those platforms. For example, you need to purchase XCP if you wish to issue assets or place financial bets on the Counterparty platform. The main issue here is that the bitcoin is the cryptocurrency with the largest network effect and most liquidity. This means it also comes with the most stable price. When it comes to using new features in the cryptocurrency space, people will still want to use the currency that comes with the least amount of volatility. There is no point in trying to do contracts for difference or microtransactions in a currency that is much more volatile than the bitcoin. Due to the fact that this project is coin agnostic and is being put together by Adam Back, Austin Hill, and a number of different Bitcoin core developers, I have to think that we are finally looking at the project that deserves the title of “Bitcoin 2.0″.
Make sure to listen to Adam B. Levine’s full interview with Adam Back and Austin Hill from episode 99 of Let’s Talk Bitcoin. You can also find a breakdown of some of the main points made in the interview from Tim Swanson’s blog.
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Quelle: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/adam-back-sidechains-can-replace-altcoins-bitcoin-2-0-platforms/2014/04/10
So jetzt mal zu einem Altcoin,
ich habe Vertcoin die Tage genauer angeschaut, trotz der negativen Handelstage hat sich Vertcoin ganz gut gehalten im Vergleich zu allen anderen.
Vor einer Woche noch stand Vert auf Platz 24 im Marketcap Ranking, gestern auf 18 und heute bereits auf 16. Liegt natürlich auch daran das der Cap bei anderen gesunken ist, ist klar, nichts desto trotz, auch das Handelsvolumen ist stark.
Ich bin jetzt in Vert investiert und schaue mir an wie es mit diesem Coin weitergeht. Vertcoin ist nicht einfach zu minen und hat im Verhältnis zu anderen Coins einen relativ niedrige Gesamtanzahl max. 84 Mios die gemint werden können, wobei gerade einmal derzeit nur 3 Mio gemint wurden.
@Amigaman, denke mitlweile auch das ist ein ganz heißes Eisen und einer der wenigen Altcoins die ich noch als investitionsfähig sehe.
ich habe Vertcoin die Tage genauer angeschaut, trotz der negativen Handelstage hat sich Vertcoin ganz gut gehalten im Vergleich zu allen anderen.
Vor einer Woche noch stand Vert auf Platz 24 im Marketcap Ranking, gestern auf 18 und heute bereits auf 16. Liegt natürlich auch daran das der Cap bei anderen gesunken ist, ist klar, nichts desto trotz, auch das Handelsvolumen ist stark.
Ich bin jetzt in Vert investiert und schaue mir an wie es mit diesem Coin weitergeht. Vertcoin ist nicht einfach zu minen und hat im Verhältnis zu anderen Coins einen relativ niedrige Gesamtanzahl max. 84 Mios die gemint werden können, wobei gerade einmal derzeit nur 3 Mio gemint wurden.
@Amigaman, denke mitlweile auch das ist ein ganz heißes Eisen und einer der wenigen Altcoins die ich noch als investitionsfähig sehe.
Naja ich habe glücklicherweise niX bei cryptorush liegen lassen,
deshalb tangiert mich das peripher,
dennoch ist es insgesammt negativ für die Crypto Börse und den Handel insgesamt jede Woche von ner Exchange zu hören die "hacked" wurde
. Wenn Cryptsy und / oder BTer auch noch dicht machen wars das dann meiner Meinung.
Wie ist das eigentlich mit BTEr ? wenn China den Handel voll verbieten will wäre ja BTer auch betroffen.
Hoffe das die China Story langsam ein Ende findet, auch wenn China jetzt voerst verschwindet, die werden in einigen Jahren sicher wiederkommen. Man kann sich so einer Technology nicht ganz verwehren.
deshalb tangiert mich das peripher,
dennoch ist es insgesammt negativ für die Crypto Börse und den Handel insgesamt jede Woche von ner Exchange zu hören die "hacked" wurde
. Wenn Cryptsy und / oder BTer auch noch dicht machen wars das dann meiner Meinung.Wie ist das eigentlich mit BTEr ? wenn China den Handel voll verbieten will wäre ja BTer auch betroffen.
Hoffe das die China Story langsam ein Ende findet, auch wenn China jetzt voerst verschwindet, die werden in einigen Jahren sicher wiederkommen. Man kann sich so einer Technology nicht ganz verwehren.
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Hello, my name is DogeyMcDoge, I worked support for Cryptorush.in.
Have you ever heard of the trolly/train dilemma?
The general form of the problem is this: There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. Unfortunately, you notice that there is one person on the side track. You do not have the ability to operate the lever in a way that would cause the trolley to derail without loss of life (for example, holding the lever in an intermediate position so that the trolley goes between the two sets of tracks, or pulling the lever after the front wheels pass the switch, but before the rear wheels do). You have two options: (1) Do nothing, and the trolley kills the five people on the main track. (2) Pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it will kill one person. Which is the correct choice?
I write this today because I am pulling the second lever. I am releasing info regarding CryptoRush's Insolvency.
My hands shake as I write this. These past two weeks have been hell for me. I have not been sleeping well. I get gut wrenching pains anytime I think about this. It's time to put it to rest.
I started working for CryptoRush in late Febraury. I was excited and intrigued by crypto, and upon finding this new exchange I joined their channel. LinkandZelda was looking for a support. I volunteered, and offered help to the users in the channel for a few days without even having access to the tools to the admin site. I was hired a few days later, and was put to work. I was to be paid a flat amount of BTC weekly, and upon getting past the learning curve of CryptoRush's backend, I was well along answering tickets. The owners became like friends to me. As the workload got harder as time went on, we began getting too many tickets for me to handle alone. We hired another support. Around the 11th of March, I received a message from Devianttwo: "had something bad happen. all I'm saying." I was brought into a Skype call and told that we had been hacked. I was shocked. They told me the amount, and I did not sleep well that night.
For some reason my brain stuck 30 BTC lost in my head. Upon consulting LinkandZelda I was informed of the losses again. ~950 BTC and ~2500 LTC. Gone. Someone with an IP from Ukraine. They were looking into it, thought they found the guy. Thought they could get the BTC back. Maybe it was shock. Maybe it was just me being naive. But I believed them.
I was informed of the plan to announce CryptoRushShares, a currency that would pay % fees to holders. And the kicker? Fyrstikken would announce 60% ownership of them. But in the back room?
[3/14/2014 10:48:15 PM]
":basically
: he's helping me gain capital back from share buyers
: he started by announcing 60% shareholding
: but he actually owns only 10%"
I never got a clear answer as to whether we received any money from him, or were just using his internet "fame" for advertising. I put it out of my mind, this could help save us right?
The next couple weeks seemed to fly by.
And so time goes on, and things look OK at first. But then the BTC wallet runs out. Alex123 and fraggyb did not know of our insolvency. Daemon problems we were told was the answer.
The guilt was starting to build up inside of me. I answered very few tickets the week of the 16th. I was conflicted, but I worked at my full time job >40 hours that week, so it kept my mind off of things a little. The issues continued. I kept suggesting ways we could maybe get some BTC back, arbitrage, etc. We didn't even have enough funds for that. I wanted so bad for the exchange to stay afloat, thinking "Maybe tomorrow will bring us back our volume!" But alas, the problems with Zeit, and BTC withdrawals killed our volume. There was no coming back.
We saw some volume on Blackcoin, until the blockchain freeze. I stayed up as late as I could, but saw no update. I woke up the next morning, to panic. People were placing ridiculous buy orders in the market. I had just the night before been given permissions to access functions such as enabling/disabling markets, or putting a coin in maintenance mode. I quickly assessed what I could, and closed the markets, canceled the orders, and put the wallet in maintenance mode. I called Devianttwo on the phone # I was give for emergencies only, and he told me he was not going to be able to fix it at the moment. This was at 10:30AM EST on the 24th. I went to work, already late from the mess I had to help resolve.
Upon returning home I learned that my worst fears were true. Blackcoin Daemon was empty besides ~53 coins. The same bug that affected Zeitcoin I assume.
I was broken. Everything was falling apart. I tried to talk to Link into closing the site, but he keeps resisting it. It was futile.
Then Fyrstikken exploded on rat4. Chat logs were flying. I tried to contain the FUD but it was useless. Fyrstikken had done his damage. Devianttwo couldn't keep a good PR face on for more than 3 minutes.
I confided in my best friend and roommate all that I knew, and he said that I knew what I had to do. And I did know. And so here it is. I feel so bad writing this, Link has become a friend to me. But I cannot let the community suffer anymore with this exchange.
So to everyone at CryptoRush I am sorry. To all the users who have, or will lose funds here, I am sorry. I don't think you can understand how heavy this whole situation weighs on my heart.
There is a lot of money in crypto, and Fyrstikken is an angry guy. I don't know if I should fear for my safety or not.
But what Snowden did was right, and what I am doing is right.
My sincerest regrets,
DogeyMcDoge.
http://imgur.com/sfhgQgV
Have you ever heard of the trolly/train dilemma?
The general form of the problem is this: There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. Unfortunately, you notice that there is one person on the side track. You do not have the ability to operate the lever in a way that would cause the trolley to derail without loss of life (for example, holding the lever in an intermediate position so that the trolley goes between the two sets of tracks, or pulling the lever after the front wheels pass the switch, but before the rear wheels do). You have two options: (1) Do nothing, and the trolley kills the five people on the main track. (2) Pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it will kill one person. Which is the correct choice?
I write this today because I am pulling the second lever. I am releasing info regarding CryptoRush's Insolvency.
My hands shake as I write this. These past two weeks have been hell for me. I have not been sleeping well. I get gut wrenching pains anytime I think about this. It's time to put it to rest.
I started working for CryptoRush in late Febraury. I was excited and intrigued by crypto, and upon finding this new exchange I joined their channel. LinkandZelda was looking for a support. I volunteered, and offered help to the users in the channel for a few days without even having access to the tools to the admin site. I was hired a few days later, and was put to work. I was to be paid a flat amount of BTC weekly, and upon getting past the learning curve of CryptoRush's backend, I was well along answering tickets. The owners became like friends to me. As the workload got harder as time went on, we began getting too many tickets for me to handle alone. We hired another support. Around the 11th of March, I received a message from Devianttwo: "had something bad happen. all I'm saying." I was brought into a Skype call and told that we had been hacked. I was shocked. They told me the amount, and I did not sleep well that night.
For some reason my brain stuck 30 BTC lost in my head. Upon consulting LinkandZelda I was informed of the losses again. ~950 BTC and ~2500 LTC. Gone. Someone with an IP from Ukraine. They were looking into it, thought they found the guy. Thought they could get the BTC back. Maybe it was shock. Maybe it was just me being naive. But I believed them.
I was informed of the plan to announce CryptoRushShares, a currency that would pay % fees to holders. And the kicker? Fyrstikken would announce 60% ownership of them. But in the back room?
[3/14/2014 10:48:15 PM]
":basically
: he's helping me gain capital back from share buyers
: he started by announcing 60% shareholding
: but he actually owns only 10%"
I never got a clear answer as to whether we received any money from him, or were just using his internet "fame" for advertising. I put it out of my mind, this could help save us right?
The next couple weeks seemed to fly by.
And so time goes on, and things look OK at first. But then the BTC wallet runs out. Alex123 and fraggyb did not know of our insolvency. Daemon problems we were told was the answer.
The guilt was starting to build up inside of me. I answered very few tickets the week of the 16th. I was conflicted, but I worked at my full time job >40 hours that week, so it kept my mind off of things a little. The issues continued. I kept suggesting ways we could maybe get some BTC back, arbitrage, etc. We didn't even have enough funds for that. I wanted so bad for the exchange to stay afloat, thinking "Maybe tomorrow will bring us back our volume!" But alas, the problems with Zeit, and BTC withdrawals killed our volume. There was no coming back.
We saw some volume on Blackcoin, until the blockchain freeze. I stayed up as late as I could, but saw no update. I woke up the next morning, to panic. People were placing ridiculous buy orders in the market. I had just the night before been given permissions to access functions such as enabling/disabling markets, or putting a coin in maintenance mode. I quickly assessed what I could, and closed the markets, canceled the orders, and put the wallet in maintenance mode. I called Devianttwo on the phone # I was give for emergencies only, and he told me he was not going to be able to fix it at the moment. This was at 10:30AM EST on the 24th. I went to work, already late from the mess I had to help resolve.
Upon returning home I learned that my worst fears were true. Blackcoin Daemon was empty besides ~53 coins. The same bug that affected Zeitcoin I assume.
I was broken. Everything was falling apart. I tried to talk to Link into closing the site, but he keeps resisting it. It was futile.
Then Fyrstikken exploded on rat4. Chat logs were flying. I tried to contain the FUD but it was useless. Fyrstikken had done his damage. Devianttwo couldn't keep a good PR face on for more than 3 minutes.
I confided in my best friend and roommate all that I knew, and he said that I knew what I had to do. And I did know. And so here it is. I feel so bad writing this, Link has become a friend to me. But I cannot let the community suffer anymore with this exchange.
So to everyone at CryptoRush I am sorry. To all the users who have, or will lose funds here, I am sorry. I don't think you can understand how heavy this whole situation weighs on my heart.
There is a lot of money in crypto, and Fyrstikken is an angry guy. I don't know if I should fear for my safety or not.
But what Snowden did was right, and what I am doing is right.
My sincerest regrets,
DogeyMcDoge.
http://imgur.com/sfhgQgV
Quelle: http://pastebin.com/eLkPxLWi
The coming demise of the altcoins
(and what you can do to hasten it)
http://themisescircle.org/blog/2014/03/14/the-coming-demise-of-the-altcoins/
Innovation Is Overrated
http://cryptofrenzy.wordpress.com/2014/03/26/innovation-is-overrated/
(and what you can do to hasten it)
http://themisescircle.org/blog/2014/03/14/the-coming-demise-of-the-altcoins/
Innovation Is Overrated
http://cryptofrenzy.wordpress.com/2014/03/26/innovation-is-overrated/
Sexcoin Top 100 Rich List
http://sxcexplorer.com/static/richlist.html
Na ist das fair oder ist das fair? :-)
http://sxcexplorer.com/static/richlist.html
Na ist das fair oder ist das fair? :-)
Fischkopf, Badenser, Saxonian, Swabian,
allgemein Markencoins (rechtlich vermutlich bedenklich)
Fußballclubs, Baseball, Basketball, etc.
halt alles, wo ne Menge fanatische Leute dahintersteckt
und erst mal dabei sein will
allgemein Markencoins (rechtlich vermutlich bedenklich)
Fußballclubs, Baseball, Basketball, etc.
halt alles, wo ne Menge fanatische Leute dahintersteckt
und erst mal dabei sein will
Die haben den Bitcoin 
das reicht den erstmal ))
das reicht den erstmal ))
Und ist mit Kreuzberg? 
Ich sag dir was kommt
der Brooklyn Coin, Brixton Coin, Tempelhof oder Marzahn Coin
der Brooklyn Coin, Brixton Coin, Tempelhof oder Marzahn Coin
Wisst ihr was die Steigerung von Nation Coins ist? City Coins
Kann man mit Sicherheit von ausgehen, dass bald sowas kommt wie:
"New York Coin", "LondonCoin", "BerlinCoin", ...
Ich frag mich nur, was kommt nach City Coins? Heheh.
Kann man mit Sicherheit von ausgehen, dass bald sowas kommt wie:
"New York Coin", "LondonCoin", "BerlinCoin", ...
Ich frag mich nur, was kommt nach City Coins? Heheh.
Liegt vielleicht an dem Verkäufer der sich kurz vor dem Verkauf nochmal ins Fäustschen lacht ?
Und ja, ich habe heißes Eisen in diesem Zusammenhang wohl falsch interpretiert ).
Und ja, ich habe heißes Eisen in diesem Zusammenhang wohl falsch interpretiert ).
Danke für deine sehr friedfertige Antwort LordShanken )) Scherz nicht gleich an die Decke gehen ja?))
Kannst du einen ungefähren Zeitraum nennen? wann die Scryptasics ihre Arbeit aufnehmen? und hast du ne Einschätzung zum Kursverfall (verlauf ) ? wieviel Prozent wird es deiner Meinung nach nach unten gehen?
Die Nachricht sollte doch bereits im Kurs enthalten sein oder? dennoch hällt sich Vert recht gut.
Scherz nicht gleich an die Decke gehen ja?))Kannst du einen ungefähren Zeitraum nennen? wann die Scryptasics ihre Arbeit aufnehmen? und hast du ne Einschätzung zum Kursverfall (verlauf
) ? wieviel Prozent wird es deiner Meinung nach nach unten gehen?Die Nachricht sollte doch bereits im Kurs enthalten sein oder? dennoch hällt sich Vert recht gut.
Heißes Eisen war in dem Fall positiv gemeint... GPU bilden immer noch die große Masse an Minern. Die wenigsten haben ASICs und viele, die bis heute keine gekauft haben, werden das auch in Zukunft nicht machen. Ein Coin braucht Unterstützung durch Miner - und zwar nicht durch reine Hashleistung, sondern durch eine möglichst große Anzahl. Miner sind der entscheidende Faktor, aber von denen hörst du halt im Forum nichts. Dort geben die Träumer und Marktschreier den Ton, die dir erzählen wollen wie toll Coin X und Coin Y ist, weil sie selbst die Taschen davon voll haben. Meine langfristigen Prognosen sind eigentlich bekannt. Die kommen hier aber nicht so gut an...
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Generell kann das Angebot nicht steigen, weil die Block Rewards sind ja fest definiert.
Das ist klar soweit, aber wenn ich weniger Leute habe die mehr minen sind die Abschläge größer die in den Markt von den wenigen plaziert werden. Also in diesem Fall der Datacenter Inhaber der ja seine Kosten decken muss.
me Konfused
Generell kann das Angebot nicht steigen, weil die Block Rewards sind ja fest definiert.
Du kannst jetzt nur noch überlegen: wer kurz- und mittelfristig prozentual mehr dumped. Der Datacenter-Inhaber (der mit jedem Diff-Anstieg Marktanteile gewinnt) oder der kleine, private (Ex-)Miner der aus dem Mining-Markt gedrängt wird.
Geschmacksfrage, ob das überhaupt das Angebot auf den Exchanges beeinflusst und wenn ja wieviel.
Du kannst jetzt nur noch überlegen: wer kurz- und mittelfristig prozentual mehr dumped. Der Datacenter-Inhaber (der mit jedem Diff-Anstieg Marktanteile gewinnt) oder der kleine, private (Ex-)Miner der aus dem Mining-Markt gedrängt wird.
Geschmacksfrage, ob das überhaupt das Angebot auf den Exchanges beeinflusst und wenn ja wieviel.
Steigt durch die Asics nicht das Angebot??
Oder habe ich jetzt einen Denkfehler?
Oder habe ich jetzt einen Denkfehler?
Wieso Preisverfall? Wenn die Scrypt Asics kommen sollte doch der Kurs noch höher steigen...
Da sich die GPU Miner darauf stürzen...
Oder sehe ich das falsch?
Da sich die GPU Miner darauf stürzen...
Oder sehe ich das falsch?
Danke für deine sehr friedfertige Antwort LordShanken )) Scherz nicht gleich an die Decke gehen ja?))
Kannst du einen ungefähren Zeitraum nennen? wann die Scryptasics ihre Arbeit aufnehmen? und hast du ne Einschätzung zum Kursverfall (verlauf ) ? wieviel Prozent wird es deiner Meinung nach nach unten gehen?
Die Nachricht sollte doch bereits im Kurs enthalten sein oder? dennoch hällt sich Vert recht gut.
Scherz nicht gleich an die Decke gehen ja?))Kannst du einen ungefähren Zeitraum nennen? wann die Scryptasics ihre Arbeit aufnehmen? und hast du ne Einschätzung zum Kursverfall (verlauf
) ? wieviel Prozent wird es deiner Meinung nach nach unten gehen?Die Nachricht sollte doch bereits im Kurs enthalten sein oder? dennoch hällt sich Vert recht gut.
Warum sich Vertcoin aber so gut schlägt ist mir noch ein Rätsel.
Kein Premine, GPU-Miner von Anfang an zugänglich (und nicht nur den Devs vorbehalten), vorläufig keine Asics. Die GPUs suchen sich einen neuen Coin, da Scrypt-Coins nicht mehr wirklich profitabel sind. In einem Post vor ein paar Wochen habe ich schon gesagt, dass Vertcoin ein heißes Eisen ist, wenn die Scrypt-ASICs kommen.
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