Topic: [DEAD] Coiledcoin - yet another cryptocurrency, but with OP_EVAL! - page 4. (Read 68095 times)
March 23, 2013, 06:33:16 AM
Has anyone played with the OP_EVAL capability of CoiledCoin? This was the alternative to bitcoin's P2SH back when it was first discussed. CoiledCoin went and made every address use this which was supposed to result in some nice capabilities. I was curious if anyone would pick that up and run with it.
March 23, 2013, 12:07:48 AM
Darn you're right, I had been playing with GeistGeld and got confused.
CoiLedCoin isn't based on multicoin, GeistGeld is.
I guess if it is qt vintage then people should be able to compile it with qmake or qmake-qt4 or whatever.
(The qt gui thing even.)
-MarkM-
CoiLedCoin isn't based on multicoin, GeistGeld is.
I guess if it is qt vintage then people should be able to compile it with qmake or qmake-qt4 or whatever.
(The qt gui thing even.)
-MarkM-
March 22, 2013, 11:53:32 PM
I suspect it pre-dates qt, as it uses multicoin, which was a system intended to let you design coins in the config file without having to hack the code. I think qt came along later.
The source I have has a 'qt' directory and it doesn't look like multicoin - it looks like it's based on the original bitcoin source. 
March 22, 2013, 11:21:14 PM
I see ok thanks for the info
March 22, 2013, 11:18:06 PM
I suspect it pre-dates qt, as it uses multicoin, which was a system intended to let you design coins in the config file without having to hack the code. I think qt came along later.
Maybe though once it is on some exchanges people might manage to rustle up some spare coin to make a bounty for updating it to base in on bitcoin-qt...
-MarkM-
Maybe though once it is on some exchanges people might manage to rustle up some spare coin to make a bounty for updating it to base in on bitcoin-qt...
-MarkM-
March 22, 2013, 06:16:35 PM
Is there a qt client for this? I want to do some test mining on it.
March 13, 2013, 03:51:44 AM
This chain has been humming along nicely lately, not a very high difficulty and you can merged-mine it so what the heck eh.
There are not enough reasonably well behaved merged-mine-able coins in existence to really see how many one could reasonably mine at once, but this one seems well-behaved so it doesn't hurt to include it in the merge.
(i0coin on the other hand tended to eat 20+% of my 8 gigs of RAM and since yesterday is for some reason now eating about 40% (40+% yesterday, 39.9% right now).
-MarkM-
im dropping i0coin soon, with every block it gets more insane (since the memleak in validating blocks). CLC is doing fine tou. There are not enough reasonably well behaved merged-mine-able coins in existence to really see how many one could reasonably mine at once, but this one seems well-behaved so it doesn't hurt to include it in the merge.
(i0coin on the other hand tended to eat 20+% of my 8 gigs of RAM and since yesterday is for some reason now eating about 40% (40+% yesterday, 39.9% right now).
-MarkM-
March 12, 2013, 09:58:23 PM
This chain has been humming along nicely lately, not a very high difficulty and you can merged-mine it so what the heck eh.
There are not enough reasonably well behaved merged-mine-able coins in existence to really see how many one could reasonably mine at once, but this one seems well-behaved so it doesn't hurt to include it in the merge.
(i0coin on the other hand tended to eat 20+% of my 8 gigs of RAM and since yesterday is for some reason now eating about 40% (40+% yesterday, 39.9% right now).
-MarkM-
There are not enough reasonably well behaved merged-mine-able coins in existence to really see how many one could reasonably mine at once, but this one seems well-behaved so it doesn't hurt to include it in the merge.
(i0coin on the other hand tended to eat 20+% of my 8 gigs of RAM and since yesterday is for some reason now eating about 40% (40+% yesterday, 39.9% right now).
-MarkM-
March 12, 2013, 09:45:19 PM
I don't particularly have any incentive to respond to the scammers that I foiled, given the significant cost (in time) to do so. Nor do I have any financial loss or care particularly if people want to stop mining on Eligius because they were in on the scam (or any other reason). I will clarify that Eligius miners were not adversely impacted by this, and that the CLC mining involved only adding data that I hashed myself to my own transactions; and I was careful to ensure that nobody lost any confirmed CLC. If any Eligius miner wishes to inquire further, I will take the time to answer specific to-the-point questions which are signmessage'd with an active (ie, has mined in the past week) Eligius payout address that has earned at least 2000 TBC (5.36870912 BTC) over all time.
Eligius is a Bitcoin mining pool and I am, as always, committed to doing my best to contribute to and protect the Bitcoin ecosystem. Pyramid schemes built upon forks of the Bitcoin software ultimately discredit and harm Bitcoin's reputation. I hope CoiledCoin will be the last of such scams now that it is clear there are people (not just myself) willing to stand up to them. Namecoin alone demonstrates a legitimate, innovative use of Bitcoin technology, and while I don't personally agree with their ideals/goals, I see it as a good thing for Bitcoin and worth cooperating with.
cablepair, regarding Devcoin, I don't see any reason to treat it as different from any other scamcoin. I will at least discuss it with you on IRC before doing anything other than mining it with the almost-unmodified (zero txn fee, zero post-maturity delay) Devcoin client.
P.S. While the opposition seem to be very venemous and vocal, I have gotten a lot more positive support from a head-count perspective.
This is better than I could ever imagine: religious freakery mixed with golden calf worship really produces comedy gold.Eligius is a Bitcoin mining pool and I am, as always, committed to doing my best to contribute to and protect the Bitcoin ecosystem. Pyramid schemes built upon forks of the Bitcoin software ultimately discredit and harm Bitcoin's reputation. I hope CoiledCoin will be the last of such scams now that it is clear there are people (not just myself) willing to stand up to them. Namecoin alone demonstrates a legitimate, innovative use of Bitcoin technology, and while I don't personally agree with their ideals/goals, I see it as a good thing for Bitcoin and worth cooperating with.
cablepair, regarding Devcoin, I don't see any reason to treat it as different from any other scamcoin. I will at least discuss it with you on IRC before doing anything other than mining it with the almost-unmodified (zero txn fee, zero post-maturity delay) Devcoin client.
P.S. While the opposition seem to be very venemous and vocal, I have gotten a lot more positive support from a head-count perspective.
Godminer-Jr is warning you: if you have a nice little research chain it would be sad to see it unable to process transactions. It has been written on the tablets revealed on Mt.Sinai: Thou shalt have none other chains before mine (Deuteronomy 5:4-21).
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October 25, 2012, 12:45:17 PM
Someone mentioned in a PPCoin thread they were having trouble compiling a copy of coiledcoind.
I don't know which one I am using, when I do "git pull" to see where I pull it from I get asked for username and password, so I think maybe whatever github repo I had been pulling it from is no longer up there or something.
I have archived the copy I am using, I would have added a checkpoint but my debug.log only shows some aux proofs of work found no normal ones and I am not sure if the aux ones would work as checkpoints.
Also, the thing totally lacks any checkpoints, the whole checkpoints array contents are commented out.
I have created a directory for CoiLedCoin at https://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/
-MarkM-
it was me:I don't know which one I am using, when I do "git pull" to see where I pull it from I get asked for username and password, so I think maybe whatever github repo I had been pulling it from is no longer up there or something.
I have archived the copy I am using, I would have added a checkpoint but my debug.log only shows some aux proofs of work found no normal ones and I am not sure if the aux ones would work as checkpoints.
Also, the thing totally lacks any checkpoints, the whole checkpoints array contents are commented out.
I have created a directory for CoiLedCoin at https://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/
-MarkM-
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CLC: auxpow.cpp:127: fatal error: opening dependency file obj/nogui/auxpow.d: File not found
CLC source from: https://github.com/Tittiez/coiledcoin <-- any other source?
GRP: success -> 2 connections lol
another question, whats this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/RUCoin/
CLC source from: https://github.com/Tittiez/coiledcoin <-- any other source?
GRP: success -> 2 connections lol
another question, whats this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/RUCoin/
October 25, 2012, 12:23:00 PM
Someone mentioned in a PPCoin thread they were having trouble compiling a copy of coiledcoind.
I don't know which one I am using, when I do "git pull" to see where I pull it from I get asked for username and password, so I think maybe whatever github repo I had been pulling it from is no longer up there or something.
I have archived the copy I am using, I would have added a checkpoint but my debug.log only shows some aux proofs of work found no normal ones and I am not sure if the aux ones would work as checkpoints.
Also, the thing totally lacks any checkpoints, the whole checkpoints array contents are commented out.
I have created a directory for CoiLedCoin at https://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/
-MarkM-
I don't know which one I am using, when I do "git pull" to see where I pull it from I get asked for username and password, so I think maybe whatever github repo I had been pulling it from is no longer up there or something.
I have archived the copy I am using, I would have added a checkpoint but my debug.log only shows some aux proofs of work found no normal ones and I am not sure if the aux ones would work as checkpoints.
Also, the thing totally lacks any checkpoints, the whole checkpoints array contents are commented out.
I have created a directory for CoiLedCoin at https://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/
-MarkM-
September 20, 2012, 10:31:35 PM
sounds spooky
September 18, 2012, 03:15:49 AM
Testnet works.
We gave up on using testnet for games a long long time ago, because of a chain-restart.
It does not matter if the game-coins in a game-character's pocket are worthless, but having them vanish from their pocket is not acceptable.
This is why we are trying to only use coins that are already secured by one or more hardcoded checkpoints. Antique coins of a "dead" (aka "darknet"?) chain are great for game use, as the more hardcoded checkpoints that have gone by the more confidence players have that if enough hashing power can ever be mobilised to bring them back out of the closet the coins their character has will still be in the blockchain.
-MarkM-
September 18, 2012, 03:05:29 AM
So, anyone actually got any coiledcoins left?
Luke-Jr, how about you? Presumably you racked up quite a few of them during your attack?
Since dirt cheap cryptocurrencies are really fun for gamers to have fun with, players are interested in how much these things go for nowadays...
-MarkM-
Testnet works. Luke-Jr, how about you? Presumably you racked up quite a few of them during your attack?
Since dirt cheap cryptocurrencies are really fun for gamers to have fun with, players are interested in how much these things go for nowadays...
-MarkM-
September 18, 2012, 02:50:42 AM
So, anyone actually got any coiledcoins left?
Luke-Jr, how about you? Presumably you racked up quite a few of them during your attack?
Since dirt cheap cryptocurrencies are really fun for gamers to have fun with, players are interested in how much these things go for nowadays...
-MarkM-
Luke-Jr, how about you? Presumably you racked up quite a few of them during your attack?
Since dirt cheap cryptocurrencies are really fun for gamers to have fun with, players are interested in how much these things go for nowadays...
-MarkM-
July 11, 2012, 04:18:52 PM
News at 11
Luke Jr. can't take down LTC so he 51% attacks a new GPU currency
Luke Jr. can't take down LTC so he 51% attacks a new GPU currency
Is this still true?
As far as I know he switched to just plain old mining it. Using his pool's users' hashing power, of course.
Not quite "plain old mining", since I only accepted huge transaction fees. And it didn't use the pool users.So essentially it is still true until you have the vulnerability info...lol
July 11, 2012, 04:13:39 PM
He didn't just reject transactions, in fact I don't know if he rejected transactions at all. He "killed" it by rejecting blocks he didn't mine, so no one else could mine blocks.
Most other miners dropped out, I see only two connections since long long ago, one of which might be him. However I do not have an incoming port routed so it is possible there are other miners out there that also have no incoming port thus that I cannot attain a connection with.
I have been getting blocks for a long time, but not many since Elgius (or whoever it is that is still mining it) has a lot more hashing power than I do.
-MarkM-
Most other miners dropped out, I see only two connections since long long ago, one of which might be him. However I do not have an incoming port routed so it is possible there are other miners out there that also have no incoming port thus that I cannot attain a connection with.
I have been getting blocks for a long time, but not many since Elgius (or whoever it is that is still mining it) has a lot more hashing power than I do.
-MarkM-
July 11, 2012, 04:12:54 PM
News at 11
Luke Jr. can't take down LTC so he 51% attacks a new GPU currency
Luke Jr. can't take down LTC so he 51% attacks a new GPU currency
Is this still true?
As far as I know he switched to just plain old mining it. Using his pool's users' hashing power, of course.
Not quite "plain old mining", since I only accepted huge transaction fees. And it didn't use the pool users. 
July 11, 2012, 04:09:53 PM
As far as I know he switched to just plain old mining it. Using his pool's users' hashing power, of course.
-MarkM-
-MarkM-
Probably didn't bother telling his miners though
Yes, he used Eligius miners to merge mine this and killed it by rejecting any transactions. Not sure if he's still doing this.
He cannot perform the same attack on Litecoin, because Litecoin uses scrypt and cannot be merge mined with Bitcoin.
July 11, 2012, 04:07:14 PM
As far as I know he switched to just plain old mining it. Using his pool's users' hashing power, of course.
-MarkM-
-MarkM-
Probably didn't bother telling his miners though
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