Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too - page 238. (Read 1601352 times)

The variation in block creation speed is surprising.  Today, it has either taken 1 hour or ~4 minutes to find a block.  Not many blocks take 10 to 40 minutes to find.  Seems odd.

"long poll: new block" is shown when block is found by anyone in the bitcoin network, not only by this pool.
And 6 blocks per hour is not a strict value, it can be less or more.[/quote]

Yes, it is. But many times you will miss that short block completely, so this "lucky share" will be averaged out to normal value.

Sometimes I see many "long poll: new block" messages within a few minutes of each other.  In the past 30 minutes, there have been 10.  But other times, I won't see a new "long poll: new block" message for 2 or 3 hours. 

Does this mean that Deepbit is sometimes creating blocks faster than 6 minutes, and other times taking 3 hours to create a block?  Does it mean that the entire Bitcoin network is taking 3 hours to find that block?  I thought a new block should be found every 6 minutes, so the 3 hour delay seems surprising.

Ultimately, this affects "Proportional" payout.  If a block is found in 2 minutes and I have submitted 1 share, that share is worth more than the many shares I submit during a 3 hour block creation.  Thanks for any information you can provide.

-v 2 made 219, -v 3 made 208, while phatk makes 228 Mh/s on my HD6850. What am I doing wrong?

As a reminder, phatk is still slower than DiabloMiner. Try -v 2 -w 128 or -v 3 -w 128.

The miner's task is to find a special combination of numbers, hash of which will be lower than specified value.
This happens rarely, so miners are submitting not only the winning one but others that are low, but not low enough, so pool can see that you are really trying and not just waiting. Each one of those results is a proof-of-work and we call it a share.
One of those will be low enough to create a new block.

Sorry, not sure if I described it correctly in english :)

Coins recieved. Tnx.

howdy y'all minin' fools. i want to second the thanks to tycho for the quick responses. i've never seen a forum so well moderated and by only one (?) person! secondly, i'd like to continue my brand-newbian collection of basic info: what is a share and what is its relation to the amount of bitcoins that i've earned? i've finally found some hashes (using a CPUminer) and i think that i've got a share for each hash. is that right? any info will be greatly appreciated. have a kickin' day.

I've noticed the same, and I'm using phoenix too. It only happens after mining for some time. Looks like phoenix loses the LP connection after a few hours. After restarting, phoenix will show "[24/05/2011 15:09:01] LP: New work pushed" correctly.

Still, the phatk kernel provides a much better hash rate for me, so I just restart phoenix when I notice that there has been no LP for a long time.

I used poclbm with GUIMiner frontend before and it yielded about 2% stale/invalid shares recently (but there're no logs to find out what time these rejected shares were at). I switched to phoenix due to a higher hashing rate of 228 vs 216.
I have standard Win7 firewall and also there's a firewall on my 3COM router, but I don't think they would break LP connections. Anyway, I'm going to turn both off and see if anything changes with the stale shares ratio.

Hello.
Have you tried to use some other miner like poclbm to see if it's miner of connection problem ?
Do you use some kind of proxy/firewall that can break LP connections ?

Thanks for the quick reply, and sorry for sounding a tad paranoid.  I'm still getting used to all things Bitcoin.

Yes, if your bitcoin client is not online at the time of payment, it can take up to some hours in worst case.
Bitcoin Block Explorer shows your transaction only when it's already included in a block and this block is received by BBE server.

If there is a payment in your payments table - you will receive it.

Today my bitcoind was restarted, so a number of payout transactions was not included in pool's own blocks. They will be included by some other miners in up to a few hours.
Please wait.

I wonder whether long polling doesn't work for me. I've got a rather high stale ratio (about 4-5%) and there're always a few rejected shares reported by phoenix just about the time there's a new block solved on DeepBit. E.g. (times are GMT+4)

[24/05/2011 14:18:41] Result: bd7a10c0 accepted
[24/05/2011 14:19:02] Result: fc5adf2a rejected
[24/05/2011 14:19:04] Result: 477f3c89 rejected
[24/05/2011 14:19:18] Result: 2e53a343 accepted
...
[24/05/2011 14:26:02] Result: f06cc602 accepted
[24/05/2011 14:26:09] Result: ef89fce7 rejected
[24/05/2011 14:26:09] Result: c055e173 rejected
[24/05/2011 14:26:15] Result: c2d84f2e rejected
[24/05/2011 14:26:17] Result: 30afeee2 rejected
[24/05/2011 14:27:00] Result: 692ce319 accepted
...
[24/05/2011 14:38:53] Result: d132f55c accepted
[24/05/2011 14:39:35] Result: 3c1b5992 rejected
[24/05/2011 14:39:36] Result: 0163f921 rejected
[24/05/2011 14:39:42] Result: f76ef18c rejected
[24/05/2011 14:40:01] Result: 6e0fa1b0 accepted
...
[24/05/2011 15:29:51] Result: e2671d16 accepted
[24/05/2011 15:30:06] Result: 2d1ca984 rejected
[24/05/2011 15:30:19] Result: 3487f2e0 accepted

Looks to me as if the miner doesn't receive notifications from the pool and continues to calculate an outdated block. I'm using phoenix 1.48 with -u [email protected]:[email protected]:8332/ -k phatk DEVICE=0 VECTORS BFI_INT WORKSIZE=128 AGGRESSION=8
Hash rate is about 228Mh/s on HD6850 @ 875

Have trouble like Nicoli. But in difference I am using "Istant payout"
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/471d44e6529f5fb7028ff1da445c4231b3bf97f9702ca843591b61790bc748a3
http://blockexplorer.com/address/18hyEYDV6mZCYpXDu52gjg3Jva99hijAPZ
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_v1TcZFx7-1I/Tdub3-UY98I/AAAAAAAAALQ/hSn05HF4dys/001.png

Where is my bitcoins?

I just noticed something strange.  I have my account set for automatic payment, and I apparently got a payout this morning at 7 AM.  I didn't see it when I turned on the Bitcoin client to check my wallet, though.  I checked the transaction under the Payments page, and when I clicked on it, the block explorer just said "No such transaction".  Is this normal?  Do payments usually take a while to show up anywhere?  Because if not, 3 BTC of mine is in limbo somewhere...

What's your login name ? Try to change your bitcoin address and send me a PM with login name and this new address.

Thanks :)

Hi,
Tycho could you please validate my account(i used a fake mail so i'm unable to receive the confirmation link) in order to be able to change the payment address(currently blank due to the emergency reset you did).
I sent you a couple mail at tycho[AT]deepbit[DOT]net,but i reckon you are very busy with the poll.
thanks

p.s.
I'm glad that your poll went from being the underdog to the most widely used in the bitcoin community

Tycho, just like to thank you for the mining pool and the quick transparent work you do.

Sure, the same as you're entitled to some of a block that you don't find, as long as you were participating in the pool.