Topic: Dead member account suddenly active? - page 2. (Read 953 times)

Why would your family members need Legendary account in the first place? Again we are coming back to the reasons I mentioned and that is to either scam someone or to leech off the forum via signature campaigns. Its funny to see that some people see bitcointalk account like some sort of family heirloom lol.


Legit newbies don't have issues on the forum just because of their rank. And yeah, reputation is something that has to be earned.

This is where you find a flaw in the trust system, which ofcourse should be countered and set to 0.

Not sure if you noticed but there's a box in your profile where you can set your addy from which you sign.


Also a funny note, there's a lot of bullshit on the forum. It's really easy to silence newbies.

Alright, you who has some “logic”, Tell us how you can publically make a change of hands;
1. When you are already dead?
2. Without making people think that the account has been hacked/sold but a bogus reason of family member of taking over the account is being used?
3. The person taking over the account will be as trustworthy as the previous owner, especially if the previous owner had good reputation?

If you get that picky, well then my family member would probably have the keys to sign in my name by then.
Death does knock on the door at times.

I'm not sure why would my familiar have to go thru all the shit of becoming legendary, when the change of hands was legit. Cannot but love this forums logic where as long as you don't say you got the account you fine, but as long as you honest you at the very least red tagged.

Ofcourse you wouldn't trust any familiar with this.

How do you plan to make it public if you are already dead, and why would anyone trust your (or anyone else's for that matter) family member? So yeah, no surprise that in that case people would tag the account.

After all, what would be the reason to use someone else's account other than scam someone, or try to leech of the forum via signature campaigns?

If I die and I want a family member to use the account next AND we make public the change of hands, i don't see why there should be any red tag, there's a long history of cuntism in this forum where logic and common sense aren't used lack, this is one of the cases in my opinion.

If you actually care about a conversation you wouldn't mind using a anon account for any reason, then why bother to make an account look well? Esthetics maybe, generally, just interest.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60589121

I try to read all posts before I write something, especially in threads that have relatively few replies. The Hal Finney case was mentioned in post #7.

It doesn't get deactivated per say. It goes into a archived state which basically means that if it's logged into after a certain period, it'll show in the security log, and on the persons trust page. However, deactivated no. I'm assuming unless an account is known to be compromised, it'll forever lie in that dormant archived state.

The way to get an account deactivated, and by that I mean banned would be to talk to the admins/global moderators about it. That's if you want to assure that the account isn't logged into, but setting a very strong password should be enough for the conceivable future.

Does an account gets deactivated on this forum after a long period of use?
 If it does, how long will it take for an account to be activated when not used?

Right, but not that many users. Plus, they don't need the account for that, unless it's a business account. It's quite well known that branded forum accounts that represent a business are shared logins anyhow. Technically, it's seen as a company asset rather than personal asset then. Obviously, the forum owns it, but you get what I mean. However, even if the account in question represents a smaller business, they could announce ahead of time, that x is also related to the business, and if any any even which means the primary account can't run the business, it'll be passed on.

Personal accounts should ideally be kept as that. Business accounts can be opened at any one time, and alt accounts while for some reason frowned upon by the many, would make absolute sense here. Its the perfect example of when a alternate account makes sense.

You could say the newly registered account wouldn't have as much trust or authority, which is what we're trying to achieve here. However, being directly endorsed by the primary account, they do inherit some sort of trust level. Since, you'd probably expect someone who is trustworthy wouldn't want to be business partners with someone that isn't.

If you have a dedicated/branded business account, fair enough. However, if you have a personal account, which happens to do business from time to time, a passing of the torch sort of scenario could be put in place. I know with unexpected deaths it can complicate things, but ideally if you're doing regular business, and you have clients relying on you, you should have a contingency in place for unexpected events anyhow, and getting your partner or whoever you wish to take over in that event, to create a new account before hand, makes the most sense to me.

It seems complicated. Maybe before she use it, she will ensure it that I am no more and she is in the possession of the account now. Few members can leave neutral feedback and use the post for reference. This will help to avoid all confusion.


It's not about signature campaign. There are many members who have business associated with their forum account. The forum reputation is running their business. If family members are involved in the business then the account is useful for them.

The Pharmacist was absolutely spot on though. Only Bitcointalk could have such a conversation, and you've got to look into why. Probably, because most users thinking of this are thinking about the earning opportunity that the forum brings, which I kind of get you want the best for your family once you've passed on. However, you've also got to respect the community, and all the questions something like this brings up. Much better, to encourage your partner or family to get involved now, and build their own account up. That's the solution, that's your contingency if you want your family to be able to earn if you aren't around any more.

In most instances, the most respectable thing to do is let the account go dormant, and preserve that memory. Potentially getting it banned via request to an admin if you're worried about the account potentially getting compromised.

That is a different thing entirely, you are talking about acquired wealth and properties when you refer to cars, houses and money being inherited, of course if i had any/plenty of that (sadly i do not), then i'd want my family to inherit it, hell, it would even be included in my will how it should be shared amongst them; but a bitcointalk account? Hell no, of what benefit would it be to any of my family member to keep this account when i'm no longer around, a bitcointalk account isn't a 'property', it is just an online account on a platform for discussing Bitcoin and other whatnots. Now let me make ask a question with something more similar, using online accounts on different other platforms, would you have your family member inherit your Facebook, TG, IG or Whatsapp account when you're no more? No right? Then why a Bitcointalk account?

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What about trust and reputation. Your account is a trusted one here, of course as a result of what you have done over the years in the forum, do not get me wrong, i'm not saying your next of kin isn't a trustworthy person, but trust isn't inherited, if i trust you and i am unaware that your account has changed hands and is in the custody of another, what if something goes wrong whilst i try to deal with the current user whom i think is you. I might be overthinking things, but i think an account shouldn't exist once the original owner is no more.

Interesting subject. I have an example for you, not one that was posting, but that was connecting after his death. He died in 2014, yet he was still connecting until 2017. It's this account: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hal-2436

The famous guy who received the first bitcoin transaction.

I will say though, I would find it a little odd if someone inherited an account. I mean, I wouldn't want anyone in my family to inherit my account. Maybe, to confirm death, but I wouldn't want them to use it, and anyway they can create a new account, and just let theymos or an admin know through that new account rather than accessing mine. Plus, I wouldn't want to inherit someone's account either. The whole situation doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. It's not like money that you can inherit or a boat. The account is effectively an extension of you. It represents you, rather than a possession item.

Just to play devil's advocate here; You can't, but you can't automatically distrust them either. A neutral tag letting users know that the account has been inherited could be a way of going about this. That's if users want to go the innocent until proven guilty route. Obviously, that neutral tag stands there to sort of discredit any posts before the account changed hands. However, I would expect the vast majority of DefaultTrust would paint the account red. However, the user inheriting the account might not even care about the trust rating.

This is all assuming there's proof, which I believe might be a little hard to do considering most accounts are pseudonymous at the very least. Most users families here probably aren't even aware of this account.

That's the preferred approach to this obviously. I'm not quite sure what you're asking is allowed or not, but either of these two options would be allowed per the forum rules. Obviously, concerning the trust system is a little different.

As long as the signature campaign managers are made aware, they can act appropriately based on their own criteria.

Then my girl will pretend that she is me. No one will have any idea that the account is not to the right next of kin. By the way, I was considering hypothetical event. It's obviously funny.

Personally I would like to see my next of kin will keep my account alive to keep my memory alive. Maybe it could be for money (if signature campaign still continues) or any family business I will have associated with the account or it could be just to explore the ideas I left behind or anything else. I will have not idea what situation they will be in.

So I missed this comment earlier on. Let me ask you, what happens to those who inherit the properties of death people like their accounts in the bank, their houses and cars? There are people who even refuse to drop the mobile phones and sim cards of their dead ones. They continue to use them. Are you going to also say they are vultures too like the Pharmacist referred to them?



But what if mods do not take note of such news to ban those account. We can not be sure they ban deceased accounts. I do not know how to check banned accounts, I would have checked the ones I know that are dead.

Most provably the account of known dead person has been banned by the mods so most provably this is not possible to recover by anyone unless the said user didn't create any noise towards the incident happen to the decease person.


But in case that one happen I think the only way to find out if the account has been activated again is to ask a sign message nor verify the user by asking question if he is relative of the decease users to clarify things out this issue.

if the incident was related to an account with a good reputation on the forum, I think it would be easy to tell from the quality of the posts or the posting habits of the actual account owner.
but if the case occurs in accounts that are not involved with proper discussion, or accounts that are indeed used only for bounty campaigns. I don't think anyone will notice.

but if the death of the account owner has been published by friends or relatives in the forum, I think if someone returns to using the account, whoever uses it again. certainly have to make another statement. Neutral tags can be assigned by other members to indicate the current status of the account.
but if the goal is just to make money from the campaign, I guess that could be a mistake.

That was funny. But do you want to believe anyone cares who is uncle or brother? Online people only care about conversations and not family relatives and their sex.


Maybe you did not understand the question well. It is not about a deliberate passing over of the account to another person. The death member will not know of it. He dies and after some time another person, maybe a family member, who is interested in cryptocurrency finds his password and starts posting from the account.


Do not be alarmed. That type of scenario is contemplated here because this site gives people an opportunity to make conversations and earn from it. That is why. And it will be the same thing anywhere where faceless people earn talking.