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legendary
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November 06, 2014, 08:30:10 PM
#27
Satoshi is doing a good job staying hidden and his probably one of the most hunted people on the net at the moment. It's not easy but it's possible as he has showed us.
sr. member
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November 06, 2014, 07:50:33 PM
#26
Actually they caught this guy by becoming apart of the site's support staff, so it had nothing to do with computers or anything it was really old fashion cop work. Go undercover and becoming one of them.

Social engineering at it's best.
Well apparently the ownership/control of SR did actually transfer in December. It is apparently not known who created/started SR2.

While putting on my tinfoil hat, I would speculate that SR2 was created by law enforcement as a way to entrap people running the site and law enforcement would have made up a good portion of the support staff

It has been reported that this Defcon is not the first Defcon. It is the fifth one. So, those who actually created and launched the site on November 6, 2013 are probably not caught as of yet.
Do you have a link/source to defcon being the 5th one? I would somewhat doubt that. The complaint does not mention anything about there being more then one defcon.

Source: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/silk-road-2-0-users-defcon-5-as-related-arrests-continue-around-world/

Check the last sentence of the article...

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The fall of Silk Road 2.0 was expected: This is Defcon 5, not Defcon 1.
hero member
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November 06, 2014, 07:38:36 PM
#25
Actually they caught this guy by becoming apart of the site's support staff, so it had nothing to do with computers or anything it was really old fashion cop work. Go undercover and becoming one of them.

Social engineering at it's best.
Well apparently the ownership/control of SR did actually transfer in December. It is apparently not known who created/started SR2.

While putting on my tinfoil hat, I would speculate that SR2 was created by law enforcement as a way to entrap people running the site and law enforcement would have made up a good portion of the support staff

It has been reported that this Defcon is not the first Defcon. It is the fifth one. So, those who actually created and launched the site on November 6, 2013 are probably not caught as of yet.
Do you have a link/source to defcon being the 5th one? I would somewhat doubt that. The complaint does not mention anything about there being more then one defcon.
sr. member
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November 06, 2014, 07:29:14 PM
#24
Actually they caught this guy by becoming apart of the site's support staff, so it had nothing to do with computers or anything it was really old fashion cop work. Go undercover and becoming one of them.

Social engineering at it's best.
Well apparently the ownership/control of SR did actually transfer in December. It is apparently not known who created/started SR2.

While putting on my tinfoil hat, I would speculate that SR2 was created by law enforcement as a way to entrap people running the site and law enforcement would have made up a good portion of the support staff

It has been reported that this Defcon is not the first Defcon. It is the fifth one. So, those who actually created and launched the site on November 6, 2013 are probably not caught as of yet.
hero member
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November 06, 2014, 07:21:52 PM
#23
Actually they caught this guy by becoming apart of the site's support staff, so it had nothing to do with computers or anything it was really old fashion cop work. Go undercover and becoming one of them.

Social engineering at it's best.
Well apparently the ownership/control of SR did actually transfer in December. It is apparently not known who created/started SR2.

While putting on my tinfoil hat, I would speculate that SR2 was created by law enforcement as a way to entrap people running the site and law enforcement would have made up a good portion of the support staff
sr. member
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November 06, 2014, 07:19:09 PM
#22
Actually they caught this guy by becoming apart of the site's support staff, so it had nothing to do with computers or anything it was really old fashion cop work. Go undercover and becoming one of them.

Are u sure ? Because I read that they got Defcon's IP from Google as he used Gmail for some registrations.
It was both. There was an undercover agent that was a staff member of SR2, but they likely used some kind of advanced tracking to find the SR2 server. The complaint really did not go into how they found the server, only that they found it back in may.
legendary
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November 06, 2014, 07:18:51 PM
#21
Actually they caught this guy by becoming apart of the site's support staff, so it had nothing to do with computers or anything it was really old fashion cop work. Go undercover and becoming one of them.

Social engineering at it's best.
sr. member
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November 06, 2014, 07:15:10 PM
#20
Actually they caught this guy by becoming apart of the site's support staff, so it had nothing to do with computers or anything it was really old fashion cop work. Go undercover and becoming one of them.

Are u sure ? Because I read that they got Defcon's IP from Google as he used Gmail for some registrations.
legendary
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November 06, 2014, 04:32:50 PM
#19
Actually they caught this guy by becoming apart of the site's support staff, so it had nothing to do with computers or anything it was really old fashion cop work. Go undercover and becoming one of them.
legendary
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Terminated.
November 06, 2014, 04:17:37 PM
#18

No, but you said it's possible to stay hidden if you're smart enough. My point isn't so much about perfection as it is about degree. If U.S. government enforcement agencies in large enough degree want to find you, there is a pretty good chance they will. They have near limitless resources, whereas it only takes one slip up on the part of the evader. Open drug sale is too large a political issue for them to put up only half efforts.
I wanted to mention this but I totally forgot about it while doing other work. Such services are the way to the future. They can't shut it down no way, although they could trick users with fake merchants set up by FBI agents. This is why I'd only buy from a few trusted buyers (if it was something illegal).
Lets see them try and shutdown openbazaar where there is no site operator, no server, and no domain to shutdown.
hero member
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November 06, 2014, 04:11:52 PM
#17


Yup, same thing I noticed, good point.
Crazy how fast this cat and mouse game happens...always the good vs. bad, one playing catchup!


Lets see them try and shutdown openbazaar where there is no site operator, no server, and no domain to shutdown.
legendary
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Juicin' crypto
November 06, 2014, 04:01:32 PM
#16
FBI is certainly stepping up enforcement efforts. The oldest dark net market "farmer's market", used paypal, and they weren't caught for over 2 years (surprise surprise, they were caught simply by paypal disclosing their contact info to FBI). This was before Bitcoin was available.

FBI is increasingly getting good at busting TOR sites.

Yup, same thing I noticed, good point.
Crazy how fast this cat and mouse game happens...always the good vs. bad, one playing catchup!
legendary
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November 06, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
#15
I never said that there was perfect security. ...

No, but you said it's possible to stay hidden if you're smart enough. My point isn't so much about perfection as it is about degree. If U.S. government enforcement agencies in large enough degree want to find you, there is a pretty good chance they will. They have near limitless resources, whereas it only takes one slip up on the part of the evader. Open drug sale is too large a political issue for them to put up only half efforts.
hero member
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November 06, 2014, 03:58:09 PM
#14
At the very least don't remain in the U.S. and regardless of location don't sit still. I'm not sure I'd even attempt it and I believe I know what I'm doing. You should at most operate for under one year then walk away, and if you can pull that off it would be an impressive achievement.

No, You should operate everywhere around the world including within the US with decentralized marketplaces.
legendary
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
November 06, 2014, 03:54:13 PM
#13
@OP - I will take your feedback into consideration.
















@FBI - Just kidding. Cheesy
legendary
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November 06, 2014, 03:48:29 PM
#12
There is no such thing as perfect security, for anything.

The problem is the free market sale of controlled substances is a political issue. Bitcoin and its libertarian enthusiasts are poking the government in the eye, putting that issue in the spotlight. To them it's a game, one of strategy, and they're playing to win. That's why they codenamed their operation onymous.
I never said that there was perfect security. There isn't 'perfect' for anything actually.
Well there needs to be something called DarkNet 2.0, Tor 2.0 and such, services which would utilize Bitcoin in the process.
legendary
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hero member
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November 06, 2014, 03:38:08 PM
#10
dogecoindark.net

already has darknet = untraceable ip crypto.

;]
copper member
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November 06, 2014, 03:37:30 PM
#9
FBI is certainly stepping up enforcement efforts. The oldest dark net market "farmer's market", used paypal, and they weren't caught for over 2 years (surprise surprise, they were caught simply by paypal disclosing their contact info to FBI). This was before Bitcoin was available.

FBI is increasingly getting good at busting TOR sites.
there have been a number of attacks by not-so-honest tor exit nodes as of recently. I would say this is likely related.
newbie
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November 06, 2014, 03:34:59 PM
#8
Well, that sucks.

I have no interest in the narcotics but some of the other items available and vendors have proven themselves to be reliable.
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