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January 29, 2015, 05:19:15 PM
#13
This is a total violation of human rights, the fact that you wish someone dead for drugs, disgusting.....

Sure it sounds harsh from a strictly academic point of view, but you may think differently if some drug dealer was trying to get your kids hooked on crack or heroin.

does not work as a deterrent against murders, does work as a deterrent in money crimes such as these

I wouldn't use only "how effective it is" as a guideline here - there is also the issue of morality, and what other solutions might exist, that aren't being pursued. Personally, I don't think there is any justification for using the death penalty; not only in this case, but in just about any case I can think of.

Of course, as (oYo) points out, it's easy to have this view if you have no personal connection to the victims; but as harsh as it might be, in my view, that should have no bearing on the situation.

Indeed, the first line of defense against drug abuse is love and education.


But, (hypothetically speaking) what if someone literally put a gun to your kid's head and made them do it with the intention of getting them addicted? (I know this sounds extreme, but it's not really that far off from what really does go on.) This degenerate is basically trying to destroy your child's life and in my eyes deserves no less than the destruction of theirs in return. It has nothing to do with being a deterrent, but more to do with ridding society of such professional scumbags. The sorry truth is that these people aren't likely to be rehabilitated and will only become worse and more dangerous over time. And, if so, why should good people be saddled with the burden of supporting the life of these people in prisons, where they hone their skills? I feel the same way towards pimps and rapists. I have more respect for the life of a cockroach rat than I do for these types of people. These are not victimless crimes. People's lives are literally destroyed by these people. If the bleeding hearts want to support and rehabilitate these degenerates, then let it be on their own dime and perhaps they should also be held equally responsible for any future misdeeds done by them.
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January 29, 2015, 04:17:50 PM
#12
Are you serious? Killing a person because he was smuggling drugs? You indonesians have also the death penalty for marijuana, I think you should deserve the same international treatment as ISIS for this.

Plus, seems  like this is not working at all to take the drugs out of your country's streets.

Though I don't agree with them the punishments are so severe as a warning and deterrent to people not to smuggle drugs and if they do they will face the consequences. Some of these countries see the import of drugs as a heinous crime that can go on to cause much damage to their citizens so they react this way.
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January 29, 2015, 04:10:21 PM
#11
This is a total violation of human rights, the fact that you wish someone dead for drugs, disgusting.....

Sure it sounds harsh from a strictly academic point of view, but you may think differently if some drug dealer was trying to get your kids hooked on crack or heroin.

does not work as a deterrent against murders, does work as a deterrent in money crimes such as these

I wouldn't use only "how effective it is" as a guideline here - there is also the issue of morality, and what other solutions might exist, that aren't being pursued. Personally, I don't think there is any justification for using the death penalty; not only in this case, but in just about any case I can think of.

Of course, as (oYo) points out, it's easy to have this view if you have no personal connection to the victims; but as harsh as it might be, in my view, that should have no bearing on the situation.
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January 29, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
#10
This is a total violation of human rights, the fact that you wish someone dead for drugs, disgusting.....

Sure it sounds harsh from a strictly academic point of view, but you may think differently if some drug dealer was trying to get your kids hooked on crack or heroin.

Tryin to get your kid hooked on crack and heroin, those are the two most extreme drugs. Alot of people get killed for alot less, a substance is a substance, choices are choices, but a human life is much more worth then that.
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January 29, 2015, 03:33:48 PM
#9
The death penalty should be applied for corruptor too.
Indonesia in the 1st rank in Asia Pacific as the most corrupt nation.
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January 29, 2015, 03:21:45 PM
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does not work as a deterrent against murders, does work as a deterrent in money crimes such as these
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January 29, 2015, 02:28:02 PM
#7
You are asking about an authoritarian nightmare: How can anyone think it is OK to kill people for trying to move drugs?
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January 29, 2015, 02:22:06 PM
#6
Sorry, no sympathy here.
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January 29, 2015, 01:42:05 PM
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This is a total violation of human rights, the fact that you wish someone dead for drugs, disgusting.....

Sure it sounds harsh from a strictly academic point of view, but you may think differently if some drug dealer was trying to get your kids hooked on crack or heroin.
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January 29, 2015, 01:30:11 PM
#4
The whole point is that it does not matter what we think about the laws in another countrys.
That's why our world has so many wars. If the Indonesian people are ok with it, that's good enough for me.
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January 29, 2015, 01:00:56 PM
#3
Are you serious? Killing a person because he was smuggling drugs? You indonesians have also the death penalty for marijuana, I think you should deserve the same international treatment as ISIS for this.

Plus, seems  like this is not working at all to take the drugs out of your country's streets.
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January 29, 2015, 12:50:05 PM
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The execution in Indonesia of six death row prisoners early last Sunday, including five foreigners,
convicted of drug smuggling and the refusal by president Joko Widodo to grant clemency from the death penalty
for Myuran Sukumaran has cast into sharp relief his likely fate and that of fellow death row prisoner Andrew Chan.


resource : http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-21/kingsbury-death-row-a-tragic-lesson-for-australian-travellers/6028996


I agree, drug smuggler must be punish and receive death penalty.

But some of country , there are some controversy about death penalty as a punishment.
So what do you think about it ? Is it right decision to punish them with death penalty or they deserve remission ?

This is a total violation of human rights, the fact that you wish someone dead for drugs, disgusting.....
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January 29, 2015, 12:41:07 PM
#1


The execution in Indonesia of six death row prisoners early last Sunday, including five foreigners,
convicted of drug smuggling and the refusal by president Joko Widodo to grant clemency from the death penalty
for Myuran Sukumaran has cast into sharp relief his likely fate and that of fellow death row prisoner Andrew Chan.


resource : http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-21/kingsbury-death-row-a-tragic-lesson-for-australian-travellers/6028996


I agree, drug smuggler must be punish and receive death penalty.

But some of country , there are some controversy about death penalty as a punishment.
So what do you think about it ? Is it right decision to punish them with death penalty or they deserve remission ?
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