The OP makes some interesting points, but I don't see any problem in requiring to hold an amount of tokens before you qualify for an airdrop. Have you looked at the new tokens that appear in your MEW every so often based on the fact you hold ETH there? How is that any different?
XNN is a good eample of this I received 436 and it was worth about $4 originally I left them and they are no worth $45. Thanks for airdrops!
Topic: DeepOnion is free or a Scam? You judge (Read 875 times)
Definitely nice to be an early adopter I suppose. In the long run I can see DeepOnion taking off, particularly for the anonymity it promises.
DeepOnion is a very successful project. He continually drops air and accumulates a large number of community staff. He has a large number of community staff in a short period of time. They are also very efficient at work, even if the currency price is not satisfactory.
For now, this project is very promising. Its creators take care of the project and develop it. I think that in the future the coin can cost a lot of money. Now it's not too late to buy this coin for long-term storage
I think it's best to wait a few years. This coin develops slowly and this gives it stability. I think this is an excellent coin for long-term investment
I am no longer participating in the airdrop but I think it is a good project, the way it is being distributed, especially after the changes in the rules, will form some whales, but which currency has no whales?
There are less than 500 people who have all the coins.
That's silly if you want to pretend it's a decentralized currency. It's simply not.
I am no longer participating in the airdrop but I think it is a good project, the way it is being distributed, especially after the changes in the rules, will form some whales, but which currency has no whales?
DeepOnion is a very successful project. He continually drops air and accumulates a large number of community staff. He has a large number of community staff in a short period of time. They are also very efficient at work, even if the currency price is not satisfactory.
For now, this project is very promising. Its creators take care of the project and develop it. I think that in the future the coin can cost a lot of money. Now it's not too late to buy this coin for long-term storage
I think it's best to wait a few years. This coin develops slowly and this gives it stability. I think this is an excellent coin for long-term investment
DeepOnion is a very successful project. He continually drops air and accumulates a large number of community staff. He has a large number of community staff in a short period of time. They are also very efficient at work, even if the currency price is not satisfactory.
For now, this project is very promising. Its creators take care of the project and develop it. I think that in the future the coin can cost a lot of money. Now it's not too late to buy this coin for long-term storage
DeepOnion is a very successful project. He continually drops air and accumulates a large number of community staff. He has a large number of community staff in a short period of time. They are also very efficient at work, even if the currency price is not satisfactory.
For now, this project is very promising. Its creators take care of the project and develop it. I think that in the future the coin can cost a lot of money. Now it's not too late to buy this coin for long-term storage
DeepOnion is a very successful project. He continually drops air and accumulates a large number of community staff. He has a large number of community staff in a short period of time. They are also very efficient at work, even if the currency price is not satisfactory.
This is not an indicator of success, success in my opinion is how the project shows itself in the long term, for example DASH, this is certainly a bad example, but all the same. The fact that the project has a lot of employees is not an indicator yet. DeepOnion is a very successful project. He continually drops air and accumulates a large number of community staff. He has a large number of community staff in a short period of time. They are also very efficient at work, even if the currency price is not satisfactory.
That's not called successful, unless you're a scammer.
DeepOnion is a very successful project. He continually drops air and accumulates a large number of community staff. He has a large number of community staff in a short period of time. They are also very efficient at work, even if the currency price is not satisfactory.
I remember when deeponion was first starting up, it seemed obvious to me that it had a pyramid/ponzi scheme structure.
Now with the reward structure how can people not see this as strange?
The first thing you need to ask yourself, in any situation not just crypto, is why would someone give you something for free?
if the answer to that is some storybook fairytale answer (because they want to give back, help out others, build communities, believe in unicorns) than you are just being ignorant and naive and deserve to be scammed.
The "don't have to buy 100" argument is a powerful deflector in that it makes it seem like you have nothing to lose. This is a common tactic in ponzi schemes.
But look at the big picture, who is actually benefitting the most?
You can rationalize that it's ok because you technically "don't lose anything" but enabling others to benefit greatly over this is you giving away power to others to do what they want with you.
Here's an idea, stay away from these projects even if they dangle "free" in front of you.
Now with the reward structure how can people not see this as strange?
The first thing you need to ask yourself, in any situation not just crypto, is why would someone give you something for free?
if the answer to that is some storybook fairytale answer (because they want to give back, help out others, build communities, believe in unicorns) than you are just being ignorant and naive and deserve to be scammed.
The "don't have to buy 100" argument is a powerful deflector in that it makes it seem like you have nothing to lose. This is a common tactic in ponzi schemes.
But look at the big picture, who is actually benefitting the most?
You can rationalize that it's ok because you technically "don't lose anything" but enabling others to benefit greatly over this is you giving away power to others to do what they want with you.
Here's an idea, stay away from these projects even if they dangle "free" in front of you.
So you're saying that something is a scam b/c it doesn't cost money? Then NEM, BTC, LTC and everything else that came before ETH were all scams then. ETH was the first big ICO to raise capital.
You realize that the reward airdrop structure is not something new to Deeponion right? Byteball has been doing a monthly airdrop that equates to 10% of your holdings for almost a year. It's not perfect, but how else would you suggest giving away a free coin?
He's done a shitty job at explaining why DO is a scam. Let me help: Airdrop structure is designed to pay out the moderators. Why? Moderators decide the "effort" factor, up to 5x payments. This means the moderator reward themselves with 5x pay every week, resulting in the handful of moderators accumulating 1/3 of the weekly airdrop. For the average investor, the amount earned (7~) coincides with the weekly rate of inflation. You're not actually earning any value.
In the meantime, anon devs are staking with the majority supply so that they are essentially printing themselves money 24/7. Airdrop rules are put into place promoting people to keep coins off of exchanges and, more importantly, keep them from dumping.
Many many people here on forums exposed deeponion greatly. It is going to be one of the biggest problems in crypto. I am sure early adopters are waiting to dump their coins and investors will lose loads of money. LOADS.
May be it will become another biggest problem after the tether with its supply manipulation and bitconnect with its biggest ponzi scheme in the world. Monero has a better tech than this torcoin. The similar coin just like tor coin already died. There is no people interested to buy such tor network coin. That claimed to be a better anonym coin rather than major privacy coin just like monero.
I remember when deeponion was first starting up, it seemed obvious to me that it had a pyramid/ponzi scheme structure.
Now with the reward structure how can people not see this as strange?
The first thing you need to ask yourself, in any situation not just crypto, is why would someone give you something for free?
if the answer to that is some storybook fairytale answer (because they want to give back, help out others, build communities, believe in unicorns) than you are just being ignorant and naive and deserve to be scammed.
The "don't have to buy 100" argument is a powerful deflector in that it makes it seem like you have nothing to lose. This is a common tactic in ponzi schemes.
But look at the big picture, who is actually benefitting the most?
You can rationalize that it's ok because you technically "don't lose anything" but enabling others to benefit greatly over this is you giving away power to others to do what they want with you.
Here's an idea, stay away from these projects even if they dangle "free" in front of you.
Now with the reward structure how can people not see this as strange?
The first thing you need to ask yourself, in any situation not just crypto, is why would someone give you something for free?
if the answer to that is some storybook fairytale answer (because they want to give back, help out others, build communities, believe in unicorns) than you are just being ignorant and naive and deserve to be scammed.
The "don't have to buy 100" argument is a powerful deflector in that it makes it seem like you have nothing to lose. This is a common tactic in ponzi schemes.
But look at the big picture, who is actually benefitting the most?
You can rationalize that it's ok because you technically "don't lose anything" but enabling others to benefit greatly over this is you giving away power to others to do what they want with you.
Here's an idea, stay away from these projects even if they dangle "free" in front of you.
So you're saying that something is a scam b/c it doesn't cost money? Then NEM, BTC, LTC and everything else that came before ETH were all scams then. ETH was the first big ICO to raise capital.
You realize that the reward airdrop structure is not something new to Deeponion right? Byteball has been doing a monthly airdrop that equates to 10% of your holdings for almost a year. It's not perfect, but how else would you suggest giving away a free coin?
yet again i am forced to give this one detail that everyone is either not willing to say or forget.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY 100 COINS TO BE A PART OF THE AIRDROP.
you simply have to have a minimum of 100 coins in your airdrop wallet. you can get these a number of free ways. free giveaways,competitions, bounties, and of course the new sunday airdrop where your deeppoints from the form get converted to deeponions. the more active you are the more you get. i got 415 deeponions last sunday for my forum activity which had nothing to do with my wallet holdings. so to sum up, you do NOT have to invest ANY money into this so how the fuck can it be a ponzi?
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STOP LISTENING TO THE FUDDERS AND MAKE YOUR OWN MINDS UP .YOU ARE ALL MISSING OUT OF THIS BY JUST TAKING THE WORD OF A FEW . LOOK AT HOW MANY ARE FOLLOWING THIS
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY 100 COINS TO BE A PART OF THE AIRDROP.
you simply have to have a minimum of 100 coins in your airdrop wallet. you can get these a number of free ways. free giveaways,competitions, bounties, and of course the new sunday airdrop where your deeppoints from the form get converted to deeponions. the more active you are the more you get. i got 415 deeponions last sunday for my forum activity which had nothing to do with my wallet holdings. so to sum up, you do NOT have to invest ANY money into this so how the fuck can it be a ponzi?
?STOP LISTENING TO THE FUDDERS AND MAKE YOUR OWN MINDS UP .YOU ARE ALL MISSING OUT OF THIS BY JUST TAKING THE WORD OF A FEW . LOOK AT HOW MANY ARE FOLLOWING THIS
That's right, the "second airdrop" where you get free coins for the official forum activity looks good and allows anybody to get quite a few coins (tens to hudreds) easily just for forum activity. Nobody is forced to buy any coins to get in the airdrop.
Nobody is forced to buy anything. But the people who do buy, buy in on the hype made by all the people who are getting the coin for free.
And they are not hyping it for the coin but for their own profit. It's just a nasty little vicious circle.
That's like saying Bitcoin is unfair b/c early members were able to mine it in seconds for a fraction of a penny in electricity. Or that NEM is unfair b/c the early signup members got their stake for free and now you have to pay half a million to acquire the same stake.
I can tell you that I got in on the first DO airdrop and I am no insider. I dont know dev and had no special conditions. In fact almost everyone who met the initial requirements were instantly accepted. Yes there was a period that was hard to get accepted into airdrop but that was b/c it was found out that people were buying and hacking BCT accounts and accuring alot of coins to dump. After Devs found that out they went through everyting with a fine toothed comb. Granted it became very slow to get approved, but let's be realisitic. The team was only like 4 people with 0 ICO funds and sorting through hundreds of application as day.
There were 288 people in the airdrop for most of it, and they rejected almost everyone that applied. That completely centralized the coin, and they're doing it even more now.
What's your point? How many people do you think were mining bitcoin in the beginning vs now? There are always a handful of people in the beginning and more later on. As the majority holders sell off, the coin becomes more distributed. I dont see this being different than any other project. To be clear, any project in crypto with low marketcap has potential to be a scam, DO included. You can literally apply these arguments to any project outside of the top 100. Only time will tell.
the value crashed hard.
Now it sounds terrifying after reading your explanation, looks much like another type of ponzi scheme
But I guess it happens to the most of coins and tokenseven btc has the same fate, early adopter being the richest of of richest, an instant millionaires without the needs of having a real job
But I guess it happens to the most of coins and tokenseven btc has the same fate, early adopter being the richest of of richest, an instant millionaires without the needs of having a real job
Many many people here on forums exposed deeponion greatly. It is going to be one of the biggest problems in crypto. I am sure early adopters are waiting to dump their coins and investors will lose loads of money. LOADS.
DEEPONION is definitely one of those dodgy coins.
The airdrop kind of exposed them but i think the "early adopters" are waiting for the airdrops to finish so that they can dump their high accumulated amounts.
Anyone new STAY AWAY you're only filling the pockets of the "early adopters".
A few weeks ago i was advised to buy 100 onions, do the signature thingy and post on the DO forum more regularly. After a few weeks of doing this i got 7 onions. HAHAHAHAHA
Whilst others got thousands doing fork all.
Even the devs get greedy with the airdrops.
The airdrop kind of exposed them but i think the "early adopters" are waiting for the airdrops to finish so that they can dump their high accumulated amounts.
Anyone new STAY AWAY you're only filling the pockets of the "early adopters".
A few weeks ago i was advised to buy 100 onions, do the signature thingy and post on the DO forum more regularly. After a few weeks of doing this i got 7 onions. HAHAHAHAHA
Whilst others got thousands doing fork all.
Even the devs get greedy with the airdrops.
I don't believe in DeepOnion and to me is as scammy as it gets so not taking it ...even for free. I've seen the Onion puppets behave like a wolf pack and attacks anyone against them too. Can't be part of a group with that mentality.
I did not read much into their model but I can't see how these free "airdrops" can be sustainable. I'd rather invest on something else, there are much better coins out there.
I did not read much into their model but I can't see how these free "airdrops" can be sustainable. I'd rather invest on something else, there are much better coins out there.
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