Topic: DefaultTrust changes - page 87. (Read 85476 times)

I don't think it matters who makes the thread.  If you still trust Lauda after the extortion of zeroxal for joining a community organization Lauda wanted to see fail, or the non-transparent escrow where he unilaterally decided to release a huge portion of funds to the scammer behind the failed project that cost users millions of dollars, or him constantly promoting one scam after another with his signature, or his removing/replacing feedback on rmcdermott927's profile so it is always at the top to punish him for standing up for what's right, then nothing is going to convince you what he is or all the wrongdoing that has been done.  One thing I'm certain of, this community has lost far more $ as a result of Lauda's activities than any scam attempt he's ever thwarted.

I think everyone here is taking the "easy" way out. It's VERY easy to take the side of the one with power rather than a red-trusted newbie.

But imagine if it were OgNasty that made the thread of removing Lauda from DT? It's no surprise that they're both not fond of each other. What would you guys think then? theymos already cleared out that corroborating and vote advocation is allowed, and I think it's mainly because of this biased standard, where people are fine with unilateral trust list manipulation, but frown upon other parties that do it.

I personally would rather have each person care about their own trust list, and keep outside interactions with each others to a minimum, but if theymos is opening the floodgates then so be it, make subjective opinions and let drama collide with each other to then end up with some sort of mutual agreement.

So right now I actually would recommend Og to make that thread about his disagreements with Lauda, and place all his reasons on why he doesn't want her being on DT, (it IS morally allowed by theymoss standards as it stands now). Not that I'd partake in that drama, but since Lauda is already getting users to include this and exclude that, maybe she'll make her own thread, and this one can stop being the drama-fest it is.

Haven't seen you got issues of DT members sending themself merits on shitposts or even on 2 words post .How does it come ?

just an example
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/atriz-and-lauda-just-got-merit-2829282

How many merits did Lauda earned here for opening a bountry thread which is according DT members the shitty part of that forum ?

I appreciate the support and I would question anyone's motivations who finds me to be untrustworthy considering my long history of trustworthy actions on this forum.  However, I would urge people to trust no individual blindly, and try to avoid the politics of this new system while trying to create the most accurate representation of your trust possible.

Being also called a scammer by suchmoon each time i represent facts about his abuse and he has no more arguments.

I asked him like 100 times to show me a single person i scammed in my 7 years and still got no answer.

theymos doesn't give you that right, you have to earn it via merits. It stands to reason that if those merits are sent solely for DT voting purposes then you're gaming the system. Personally I don't give a shit because your harebrained scheme is quite pathetic as it is, but if you're whining about it being called manipulation then perhaps you shouldn't participate in it.


Real classy, old man. Fits right in with this.


I don't know, ask the "DT member". I don't think I can tag myself.

Having 10 members on your trust list does not seem to be a difficult requirement for any possible DT1 to fulfill.  Seems reasonable, too.  If a possible DT1 cannot come to a conclusion for 10 members on his/her trust list, then that likely shows that member to be insufficiently involved in the forum, so might be less than preferred for DT1, even if meeting all the other requirements.

stop lying accusing me of being a scammer or I will red trust you for it like you would do to me if i lied about you !

In fact you are right. This is kind of an overstatement. And I was pissed off by the fact you were trying to spin the choice of OP around who was ultimately ok with locking the thread and the neutral.

It was not your fight and I still see it as an attempt of getting more traction for your own fight (which I have no stake in again).

I think my feedbacks speak for themselves, and the feedback I left you was based on that + the ongoing unhealthy fight with the part of DT you are familiar with.

And reconsidering it I might also remove it in very near future. (not like you seem to care anyway)

What are these people doing in DT1? Looks like the ruskis have succesfully colluded their way into DT1.

I highly doubt that
So you claim


You want me to show you tons of threads of members claiming that they have been abused where i didn't participated because i agreed with DT members opinion ?

Also you claim i try to manipulate the system.If theymos gives me voting rights and the right to support people i like and dislike people i don't like why you call it manipulation of the system ?Isn't the system by theymos constructed this way to actually do so ?
I mean Lauda is allowed to promote people he likes and puts everyone in their distrust list they don't like with the comment you don't deserve to be DT1.
So if Lauda is doing so its ok but when i say to Lauda you don't deserve to be DT1 because of your past abuse its a manipulation of the system ?

You seem very young 27 and seeing you are just a single year on that forum it clearly shows me you are missing a lot of experience and knowledge what was before your time on that forum and the history of some DT members.What i can tell you is they don't appreciate your presence and would kick you immedently if they could to choose somebody else.You are just tolarated by them and nothing more.



Why didn't DT member tagged you in June 2018 when buying an legendary account ?No explanation ?



Foxpop would never do so.He clearly said he would never negative tagg someone who has other opinions than him.

Look at my trust right now,does their feedback appropriate? accused me of conspiracy by distrusting people that i wanted to? looks like they are abusing the trust system..I am not active for months but i logged in everyday and read some useful threads and then by customizing my trustlist gives me a redtrust?

Let me just say that your wasted effort is greatly appreciated. Any time you spend tilting at those windmills is not spent scamming someone so that's a net positive for the forum. Thank you and keep trying.

That's valid, good point.


I wouldn't want to force anybody into doing something they don't want to do. I hadn't put as much research into it as I would've liked before speaking on it, because you're right.


I can't think of anybody that is a fan of DT drama. It's sad if anybody is bowing away from being a benefit to the community because of it.


This is probably a good idea to do for anybody you strongly agree with their ratings/network.
Time to go use Loyce's trust-viewer.

thank you Theymos !


im not trying to scam anyone or help anyone scam anyone !


the point is REMOVE LAUDA FROM DT
laudas controlling mentality is bad for this forum
very net-negative and dangerous to freedom
tman and owlcatz too but lauda is the greatest evil


good that lauda rightfully has negative dt marks again to warn others
if you exclude ognasty again im coming for you next too
my next list will include all who include ognasty and ~ all who ~ ognasty if you kick him out again !

You should have a proper custom list if you're going to be adding others to DT2.

The only thing that is gained from adding users without custom lists to DT1 is that they will have DT1 vote power. It seems better reserved for those that are active in the forum and in trust.

Part of being on DT1 is adding users to DT2. If you're not adding anyone, why would you be on DT1? They're still included on DT2 anyway.

minerjones and ibminer were part of previous DT1 so they clearly opted out by removing their trust lists. You can't force them into it nor would it make much sense anyway, since their lists are empty. You can still make their ratings matter by including them in your list.

Not sure about Phil but he's not a fan of DT drama so maybe also opting out. dooglus was last active just over 3 days ago so likely a victim of the inactivity rule. I would suggest to review his trust list and include anyone who you think is worthy. Same goes for any DT1 member I guess. Double up the inclusions if you're worried about someone going on a vacation and taking part of DT2 out.

That's a shame.  Looking at the list, DT would likely benefit from their inclusion.

While it is debatable if my feedback deserves a neg the content of said feedback is 100% accurate.