Topic: DefaultTrust (DT) Network - DT1/2 Members - page 5. (Read 1810 times)

Fun Fact for you, friend: This means that 20 out of 100 are tagged unfairly.

I work in engineering and mathematical modelling, and I can tell you that a 20% fail rate is UNACCEPTABLE.

He's abusing it. And you only need to look at the top 20 topics on the Meta board to have proof.

Whilst I don't really do it, I have no problem with it.

That would be true if the user leaving the rating had something to gain from it. E.g., I don't see how The Pharmacist would benefit from tagging random shitposters. Therefore, I find it unlikely that your fear would become true unless he/she went on a ego rampage but that wouldn't last long (easily noticed, easily fixed).

I wouldn't label people who are neutral to it and support it in the same group. I, e.g., support it whilst I believe Blazed and hilariousandco (if I've read his recent post correctly) just *don't mind it given the current situation*.

This is somewhat pointless if all you're going to get is: a) Mostly positives from people who are fed up with the shitposting. b) Mostly negatives from the users that are shitposting and/or have been tagged for other peoples. c) A few, rare, libertarian bs negatives.

That's generally a bad idea due to bias and prejudice that would build up over time.

Fun Fact : Out of 100 people tagged by The Pharmacist,80 of them think the feedback isn't fair because they 'can't participate in signature campaigns anymore'. Honestly,if one is on the forum just to participate in the signature campaigns,they shouldn't be here.

I admit The Pharmacist is a bit harsh on them but everyone has their level of tolerance right ? Also majority of the feedback he had given was before getting added to the DT.Now if that feedback really bothered why didn't the spammers make a scene about him then ? Because they knew the untrusted feedback wouldn't stop them from participating in the signature campaigns.

Lately another account actmyname got added to the DT list who I believe is also involved in tagging such accounts.Meanwhile I truly support the 'fights against the spammers' but forming a group of DT accounts to attack particular 'type' of members is not encouraging.

Wow amazing! Thank you very much ibminer


This is what I want from DT members, can behave fairly on all members in the forum. I know lauda nobody pays to give me a red trust, but why can not he give his red ink to someone who is obviously plagiarized my design. Do you hate me?

My thoughts on this are here.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/who-is-policing-this-guy-please-the-pharmacist-default-trustjoke-2806313

It's out of hand.

Even I have customers that some of them have green trusts but they can not help solve my problems, I do not ask them to help but if what you say is true, I'm sure they have helped me. So basically I'm just prejudiced if they're afraid of getting a red trust if they help me, because I have a red trust on my profile.

Is that a joke? I think no.

Im not talking about green trust or red trust. Im just saying that your friends will obviously prioritize you over some other bunch of random guy in bitcointalk 

Wether you like or not, its the truth

I feel as if it will only be a matter of time before a number of campaigns will simply adapt to this and remove the "No red trust" rule, which will ultimately result in a lot of time being wasted and leaving the trust system even more broken/misused then it is right now.

Don't get me wrong though, I see and understand why this is happening, and wouldn't necessarily say that i am against it, however it just doesn't seem like a feasible solution in the long run to me.

Are you serious? feedback positive / green trust or whatever it's called can be played with a friendship relationship? If so I have spoken true.

Because there is another system apart from the DT system.

'FRIEND' system, as long as you are friend with any of them then they will prioritize you.   

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How I missed shorena the lone DT warrior in a time like this 

I do not believe with DT account, so far I know in this forum is strictly prohibited to copy / paste and I have often seen accounts that do copy / paste post or anything in this forum will be banned or just get red trust from DT account. But you can see my thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wta-about-the-stealing-of-signature-designs-2642277, respectable lauda which consider himself a god who always thinks he is always right, even not issued a red ink on people who have obviously plagiarized my design. Why do members of DT not respond quickly to complaints from users who have a red trust like me? Even lauda can quickly give me a red trust because of the proof I have given https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dear-monbux-2482301, I really can not accept the attitude of a DT account like that,  think of himself as god but actually he is a demon.

I'm conflicted and need a reality check. I believe I'm more reserved in my approach with feedback than say Lauda or The Pharmacist, and I don't really believe theymos had intended DT to act as a cleanup crew for sig spammers on the forum, but that seems to be where this is heading, and I can't say I'm entirely against it because mods and admins have shown they do not, or cannot, get involved on a large scale with the shitposting/sig spamming.

Even though I feel like this type of work should be handled by admins & mods (and I believe they are trying), the constant crap content and one/two-liners in a lot of the larger boards certainly effects the community, and one community-based way to fight back may be the DT system, especially if signature campaign managers are using it as a guide on who can join their campaigns. However, the potential for abusing this and/or the DT system turning into a sort of "good ol' boys club" would be my fear.


I'll assume Blazed is included in the comment above but I'm curious which other members may be supporting this, or at least how many support the leaving of feedback based on just the quality of a users post(s)?

I've always seen the rating of accounts based on the quality of their posts as going against the general guidelines set by theymos for the DT system, so I've always had reservations about going down this path and usually try to find more than just the quality of the post as a reason to leave feedback. It would be easier if I didn't have to do this, but I've always made it a personal responsibility.

I'm interested in hearing other opinions & thoughts on this.
If you are not comfortable posting publicly for whatever reason, PM is fine with me.