Very interesting that this should come up now. I have an investment in PBMining and always thought that they paid low.
Well, I went out to check my payout for this week and it says it was paid out at 22:51. Well, here it is over two hours later and my wallet has yet to have it.
Wonder. Sent him an email, but I have done that before and seldom get a response. We will see.
Topic: Definitive proof the owner of pbmining is a scammer - page 6. (Read 16071 times)
I've changed the title to make it more accurate.
I suppose it is possible he decided to create a legit mining operation only a month after creating a phishing site, but I think that's a bit of a stretch.
I suppose it is possible he decided to create a legit mining operation only a month after creating a phishing site, but I think that's a bit of a stretch.
Hahahaha, yeah
Well done man!
I chased four scammers this past week myself. Rarely is the proof so elegant.
pb mining smell a scam from the beginning sorry for all the guys invest there
Also just because the founder was scamming does not mean PBmining itself is a scam (although I still think it probably is). For example one of the founders/officers of BFL was a felon (he ran something to do with gambling that was illegal) but I don't think the fact that BFL was a scam had anything to do with him.
:facepalm: Hell that deserves a :doublefacepalm:
One of the founders of BFL was a felon who scammed little old ladies out of their pension money with a mail based lotteries scam but i doubt that has anything to do with the fact that BFL turned out to be a massive pre-order scam is your argument why running a phishing site isnt proof that the guys running a scam now :lol:
I know that there are a large number of cloud mining sites that probably are a scam one way or another. Short of having a whistleblower inside the company I don't think anyone is going to be able to provide proof of such until they decide to scam and stop paying.
PBMining has stopped sending out full payments. They are skimming the payouts. They are now absolutely confirmed as a scam.
Can't you pretty much put any/random information when registering a domain? (I may be wrong on this).
Yes, but I don't think you can't fake archives.
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Do you think it would be possible that the person who registered he fishing site used PBmining's info to make them look bad?
pbmining didn't exist until 1-2 months after the phishing website was created. They had an ebay account some time before that, but why would a scammer want to steal the identity of a random ebayer who sold a few usb miners?
As you said, they could have used any name/address/info so why not make it look like blockchain.info's registrar data? Seems like a scamming fail to me.
I don't think it's fake because it would be an incredibly elaborate hoax to pull off considering how well the info about pbmining is hidden.
I am really playing devils advocate here. I don't think there is enough that would show that PB mining is trustworthy enough for me to trust them with my money while entering a 5 year agreement.
https://web.archive.org/web/20131120014143/http://blockkchain.info/
This is the archive I'm talking about which was captured on Nov 20 2013 (about two weeks after the site was registered).
There is still the possibility that it was registered by someone who was not best friends of the founder of PB mining.
Also just because the founder was scamming does not mean PBmining itself is a scam (although I still think it probably is). For example one of the founders/officers of BFL was a felon (he ran something to do with gambling that was illegal) but I don't think the fact that BFL was a scam had anything to do with him.
Can't you pretty much put any/random information when registering a domain? (I may be wrong on this).
Yes, but I don't think you can't fake archives.
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Do you think it would be possible that the person who registered he fishing site used PBmining's info to make them look bad?
pbmining didn't exist until 1-2 months after the phishing website was created. They had an ebay account some time before that, but why would a scammer want to steal the identity of a random ebayer who sold a few usb miners?
As you said, they could have used any name/address/info so why not make it look like blockchain.info's registrar data? Seems like a scamming fail to me.
I don't think it's fake because it would be an incredibly elaborate hoax to pull off considering how well the info about pbmining is hidden.
I am really playing devils advocate here. I don't think there is enough that would show that PB mining is trustworthy enough for me to trust them with my money while entering a 5 year agreement.
https://web.archive.org/web/20131120014143/http://blockkchain.info/
This is the archive I'm talking about which was captured on Nov 20 2013 (about two weeks after the site was registered).
Can't you pretty much put any/random information when registering a domain? (I may be wrong on this).
Yes, but I don't think you can't fake archives.
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Do you think it would be possible that the person who registered he fishing site used PBmining's info to make them look bad?
pbmining didn't exist until 1-2 months after the phishing website was created. They had an ebay account some time before that, but why would a scammer want to steal the identity of a random ebayer who sold a few usb miners?
As you said, they could have used any name/address/info so why not make it look like blockchain.info's registrar data? Seems like a scamming fail to me.
I don't think it's fake because it would be an incredibly elaborate hoax to pull off considering how well the info about pbmining is hidden.
I am really playing devils advocate here. I don't think there is enough that would show that PB mining is trustworthy enough for me to trust them with my money while entering a 5 year agreement.
Can't you pretty much put any/random information when registering a domain? (I may be wrong on this).
Yes, but I don't think you can't fake archives.
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Do you think it would be possible that the person who registered he fishing site used PBmining's info to make them look bad?
pbmining didn't exist until 1-2 months after the phishing website was created. They had an ebay account some time before that, but why would a scammer want to steal the identity of a random ebayer who sold a few usb miners?
As you said, they could have used any name/address/info so why not make it look like blockchain.info's registrar data? Seems like a scamming fail to me.
I don't think it's fake because it would be an incredibly elaborate hoax to pull off considering how well the info about pbmining is hidden.
might want to change it to 'was'
While it's a bit misleading to have pbmining in the title sort of implying that pbmining is a scam too (which it might or might not be), but I wouldn't go as far as saying "was a scammer". If I steal something, I'm a thief. If I stop stealing tomorrow am I not a thief anymore? Maybe "was scamming" would be more appropriate.
yes... i would say taking out definitive proof and replacing it with possible proof... and then is a scammer would have to be changed to was scamming
so... possible proof the pbmining owner was scamming
that would be accurate
could add in maybe even ;/
possible proof the pbmining owner was maybe scamming
Can't you pretty much put any/random information when registering a domain? (I may be wrong on this).
Do you think it would be possible that the person who registered he fishing site used PBmining's info to make them look bad?
Do you think it would be possible that the person who registered he fishing site used PBmining's info to make them look bad?
That is technically a possibility, but if I understand it correctly the address wasn't easily obtainable and it would be a very weird way to frame somebody, seeing how long ago it was and nobody bothered to make it public until now.
I think the person who can prove that a major cloud mining company is scamming will receive a level of trust and respect that cannot be manipulated, and as a result many people spend a lot of effort trying to uncover evidence of such.
I personally think that most/many of the cloud mining companies are scamming, and would not trust any of them with my money, however I do not think this is proof they are a scam (or that they were a scam, or that their founder scammed in the past)
Can't you pretty much put any/random information when registering a domain? (I may be wrong on this).
Do you think it would be possible that the person who registered he fishing site used PBmining's info to make them look bad?
Do you think it would be possible that the person who registered he fishing site used PBmining's info to make them look bad?
That is technically a possibility, but if I understand it correctly the address wasn't easily obtainable and it would be a very weird way to frame somebody, seeing how long ago it was and nobody bothered to make it public until now.
might want to change it to 'was'
While it's a bit misleading to have pbmining in the title sort of implying that pbmining is a scam too (which it might or might not be), but I wouldn't go as far as saying "was a scammer". If I steal something, I'm a thief. If I stop stealing tomorrow am I not a thief anymore? Maybe "was scamming" would be more appropriate.
Can't you pretty much put any/random information when registering a domain? (I may be wrong on this).
Do you think it would be possible that the person who registered he fishing site used PBmining's info to make them look bad?
I know that there are a large number of cloud mining sites that probably are a scam one way or another. Short of having a whistleblower inside the company I don't think anyone is going to be able to provide proof of such until they decide to scam and stop paying.
Do you think it would be possible that the person who registered he fishing site used PBmining's info to make them look bad?
I know that there are a large number of cloud mining sites that probably are a scam one way or another. Short of having a whistleblower inside the company I don't think anyone is going to be able to provide proof of such until they decide to scam and stop paying.
might want to change it to 'was'
Wow, great work jimmothy well done man.
I've changed the title to make it more accurate.
I suppose it is possible he decided to create a legit mining operation only a month after creating a phishing site, but I think that's a bit of a stretch.
I suppose it is possible he decided to create a legit mining operation only a month after creating a phishing site, but I think that's a bit of a stretch.
The blockk site doesn't work and Chrome for some reason suggests to go to a cached version of blockchaim.info
Is that one also his?
Is that one also his?
You mean when you search for blockkchain.info on google right?
I meant my Chrome browser was showing it on its error page, but I guess it's pulling the first result from Google.
How does someone making a phishing site prove his cloud mining is a scam? You counted your chickens too early calling it "definitive proof" 
So how is it definitive? Sorry just not seeing the correlation like I do with GAW and that thread. Love to know and I have 0 investment with them. Cheers!
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