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It is your right to call for the creation of Ukraine board if you feel that Ukrainians have fulfilled the requirements of having a local board.

It would have been nice if you presented your request without tieing it to the ongoing war between the Russians and Ukrainians.

Creating a Ukrainian Board at this point will defeat the purpose of unity, which means we are driven by political waves outside.
 The war you alleged that is going on in Russian locale, is it between the Russian users and Ukraine users, or it is a war of moderators?

I'm really not sure how many posts are there in the Ukraine thread each day or a month. But at the moment, Bengali thread is doing far better than most of the local board board.
But still, Bengali isn’t considered to get a board. We are still hanging out in a chaotic situation. But theymos hasn’t yet considered that.
I don't think theymos will consider a board for Ukraine either but I wish your request get a successful ending.

But why do you propose to change the moderator of Russian board? There are two moderators there already. Xandry and Xal0lex is doing fine if I'm correct.

This thread is probably result of ego clash but theymos won't be giving priority to such things. Why we should start hating each other atleast here we should support each other and stop discussion of dirty politics. If you guys still wants then just go to the politics section and create a thread there.

I don't think that creating a Ukraine locale is essential and I can offer a simpler solution, which I will announce below.

Instead of people uniting here by common interests, people squabble and split the crypto community. Wasn for this Satoshi founded this forum?

Necessary measures must be taken. For example, instigators and violators can be temporarily punished (15-30 day ban) for inappropriate behavior and insults. Is there such a thing in the forum rules? Both sides of the conflict should be punished, depending on the degree of their violations. Henceforth it will cool their heads and they will think before they write anything here.

I hope the moderators will pay attention to the situation and try to resolve it.

P.S. Also, it's strange to me that discussions on political topics don't move (or don't have time to move) to the Politics & Society section. Maybe we will communicate within the framework of topics and sections and let's not turn the forum into one continuous section of politics? It's bitcointalk, not politictalk, isn't it?

Total posts, total pages don't make sense in terms of quality. Many pages in Vietnamese local thread is from years ago and full of spam. That's why that thread was locked (originally locked permanently) years ago (2018 perhaps) before I successfully asked for unlock it. After that, it is very inactively.

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I guess the main reason why Ukrainians post more often in Russian local board is firstly that is a local board, not a local thread that makes it better organized, more easily to find what you need and discuss with. Secondly, almost similar language.

However, I do see the point that the terrible war and invasion from Russia that triggered by Putin changed all. I am sure that it has changed all communication among Russians and Ukranians. Therefor, Ukrainians will have more reasons to request for their own local board.

This is the first thread I have come across regarding this issue, that doesn't represent an urgent request from the majority, it's your request.
You should be looking to back your request you with data so as to convince the admin that a local board is really needed and a thread is not sufficient to support the discussions.

That should mean that Ukrainians are not being marginalized as they are represented as moderators.
Although, admin is very selective in choosing a moderator and users who are selected usually have a low chance if being biased.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2627630


Are you done trolling?

I've checked those topics you've mentioned and I already expected to see that in 90% of the cases the user that was trying to ignite discussions with every post mentioning nazis was actually you, I missed my mark by 10%.

Well you could say that, but could you refer me to instances prior to this war were Ukrainians and Russians had a serious problem communicating in the same local board, maybe then i can start believing your assumptions that there have always been chaos like you're suggesting.
Again stop making assumptions, can you likewise refer me to instances of me making the disaster worse, i am waiting. And what independence are you talking about exactly? There are certain criterias for the creation of a local board, and activity is one very important one, since you are requesting for a local board, give Theymost reasons why he should create one, without saying there is chaos in the Russian locale and thus there should be a local board. Look at what a request for a local board should look like: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/request-for-nigeria-local-board-5315340
Since all activity of Ukrainians flow to the Russian locale, then this is what to do: Ukrainians should post in their local thread and boost the activity of the thread, and then should request for a local board. I really do not understand the seriousness of your tone and why you're making a needless comparison with the Nigerian local thread, but need i remind you that the Ukrainian local thread has been around since 2013 (over 9 years ago), with 280 pages of posts, while the Nigerian local thread was created in 2019 (over 3 years ago) with over 128 pages of posts, it definitely isn't a low activity thread, but then again, what is the comparison for?

First of all I'm not Russian or someone who doesn't like Ukraine, I'm neutral here.

The current Ukraine thread in Other languages/locations section only have 5581 posts, it's not the biggest since Vietnamese and Pakistan have more higher posts. Also Ukraine aren't active anymore started from 6 months ago, October 2021-March 2022 only create 22 it's really low activity.

So I don't think it's the right time to create the new section for Ukraine, it's doesn't have any activity and time wasting for @theymos to create it.

There is already a ukrainian local 'thread': https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ukrainian-236982 i know it is not a "fully-featured" board that you are asking for, but it is at least a place Ukrainians can discuss varieties of issues in their local language.

But having said that, don't you think if Theymos even does that (i mean accept your request), it could prolly send the wrong message, a message that we're fostering/fueling disunity, AFAIK, Ukrainians and Russians have communicated together in the Russian section for a long while without many problems till this war started, in my opinion i believe we should stand on the side of peace and hope this war ends asap and we all can settle our disputes and start discussing about Bitcoin as a community, like we used to.

This war will definitely end, but our actions during it as a community will decide if things will ever go back to normal on the forum between nationals of the two nations in conflict.

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