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Quote from: BadBear on August 22, 2014, 08:14:48 AM

Stays pending until marked as handled.

A couple of your bad reports were for pool advertising, but they were from several months ago, rule didn't exist then and we aren't going to delete them all. Another was this thread, saying it has nothing to do with altcoins, but payment is in altcoins, so it belongs in alt currency marketplace. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8443956

Well let's say I report thread X to be moved to forum Z. If it was already moved and my report gets handled later? What does it get marked as?
Ah that must have been my bad then I didn't check the dates correctly. C2 is an altcoin?

Thank you for the feedback. Now push theymos for the interface. Grin

When someone makes a post that contains something like ' Grin

' only. Is that classified as spam/useless post? I'd rather have a confirmation before reporting more.

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Quote from: Lauda on August 22, 2014, 08:10:17 AM

Also what happens when 2 persons report a thread, and report from person A get handled. What happens to the report of person B?

Stays pending until marked as handled.

A couple of your bad reports were for pool advertising, but they were from several months ago, rule didn't exist then and we aren't going to delete them all. Another was this thread, saying it has nothing to do with altcoins, but payment is in altcoins, so it belongs in alt currency marketplace. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8443956

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Quote from: hilariousandco on August 22, 2014, 03:29:35 AM

You won't get a bad report just for merely reporting an infringing post in the alt coin section unless it is of course an invalid report, but I agree we should be able to see a brief history at least of the status of our reports. It's been suggested a few times and I hope it is included in the new forum.

It dropped again. That's the problem with the lack of status of the reports. My % went up quite nicely because I was reporting only what I though was 100% against the rules. Now I'm wondering where I am/was wrong. There is no way to improve without actually knowing where I made a mistake, correct?

Also what happens when 2 persons report a thread, and report from person A get handled. What happens to the report of person B?

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Quote from: Lauda on August 22, 2014, 07:27:44 AM

Well I'm assuming some were marked bad as my percentage went down. Thank you for clearing those up.

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on August 22, 2014, 07:24:47 AM

BCX requested to make him an admin there. I think it would be great if you make him an admin and look how he doing. A decision should be taken very ghastly.
Kindly,
MZ

You mean to make him a moderator?
Indeed he did, but was denied and sadly Theymos stated that he does not see the need for more moderation over there.

Yup theymos doesn't quite agree with the idea that we need more moderation in the altcoin section, or may be he has a better candidate for altcoin mod in his mind.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8408630

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I tend to trust BitcoinEXpress's intentions, and I think that he would be reasonably impartial, but I'm not convinced that the altcoin section needs more moderation, and I'm not convinced that BitcoinEXpress would be the best possible moderator there in any case.

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Quote from: malevolent on August 22, 2014, 07:04:39 AM

If it's ignored it's not "invalid" (unless it was marked as "bad").

Quote from: Lauda on August 21, 2014, 07:27:41 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--751124
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/monero-xmr-why-do-people-fall-for-the-shills-and-bullshit-751095

Trashed the first one, deleted some useless replies in the second one.

Well I'm assuming some were marked bad as my percentage went down. Thank you for clearing those up.

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on August 22, 2014, 07:24:47 AM

BCX requested to make him an admin there. I think it would be great if you make him an admin and look how he doing. A decision should be taken very ghastly.
Kindly,
MZ

You mean to make him a moderator?
Indeed he did, but was denied and sadly Theymos stated that he does not see the need for more moderation over there.

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BCX requested to make him an admin there. I think it would be great if you make him an admin and look how he doing. A decision should be taken very ghastly.

Kindly,
MZ

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Quote from: Lauda on August 22, 2014, 03:20:50 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on August 22, 2014, 02:57:13 AM

I'm not sure what you mean by rejected but the least that will happen to it is it'll get 'ignored' by a few mods, but I handle reports when they come in from the alt section but obviously can only handle reports against newbies currently so can't vouch for what will happen to the others.

As much as I don't care for that section I don't think we should get rid of it, but a few dedicated mods should probably be added to help keep order.

Invalid or how do you call it?
Anyways I've been carefully of what I've been reporting there yet had a 2% decrease in accuracy. It's a shame that one can't see the status of all their reports.

If it's ignored it's not "invalid" (unless it was marked as "bad").

Quote from: Lauda on August 21, 2014, 07:27:41 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--751124
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/monero-xmr-why-do-people-fall-for-the-shills-and-bullshit-751095

Trashed the first one, deleted some useless replies in the second one.

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Quote from: Lauda on August 22, 2014, 03:20:50 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on August 22, 2014, 02:57:13 AM

I'm not sure what you mean by rejected but the least that will happen to it is it'll get 'ignored' by a few mods, but I handle reports when they come in from the alt section but obviously can only handle reports against newbies currently so can't vouch for what will happen to the others.

As much as I don't care for that section I don't think we should get rid of it, but a few dedicated mods should probably be added to help keep order.

Invalid or how do you call it?
Anyways I've been carefully of what I've been reporting there yet had a 2% decrease in accuracy. It's a shame that one can't see the status of all their reports.

U might consider to raise your voice here regarding this issue => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-give-us-an-interface-to-check-the-status-of-our-reports-740575

This is seriously become a trouble for those who report posts and I think the basic that I have asked for is not that difficult.

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You won't get a bad report just for merely reporting an infringing post in the alt coin section unless it is of course an invalid report, but I agree we should be able to see a brief history at least of the status of our reports. It's been suggested a few times and I hope it is included in the new forum.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on August 22, 2014, 02:57:13 AM

I'm not sure what you mean by rejected but the least that will happen to it is it'll get 'ignored' by a few mods, but I handle reports when they come in from the alt section but obviously can only handle reports against newbies currently so can't vouch for what will happen to the others.

As much as I don't care for that section I don't think we should get rid of it, but a few dedicated mods should probably be added to help keep order.

Invalid or how do you call it?
Anyways I've been carefully of what I've been reporting there yet had a 2% decrease in accuracy. It's a shame that one can't see the status of all their reports.

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Quote from: Minnlo on August 21, 2014, 06:31:49 PM

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I agree it needs cleaning up but Nuking it? You should think twice before you make a Decision like that because it will No doubt hurt this Forum and bitcoin itself. All the altcoins end up being traded for BTC and spurs market activity and price with all the sales. If you Nuke the alt forum on the worlds most popular BTC site then you will drive BTC prices lower and lose tons of people. look at these stats.


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How many users do you think would drop from this site if you Nuke that area? Think about your investments think about your BTC value. I think if you nuke it the BTC price drops over a $100 in the first week.

Like it or not it would hurt everyone. I say clean it up but leave it.

Nuking the whole altcoin section will lower than number of posts and number of active members here, but why will the bitcoin price drop by 20%? Huh

2.4 million posts...1/4 of all Bitcointalk.org posts. Yes nuking it will kill BTC this is the worlds first stop regarding BTC and altcoins when you nuke 1/4 of the users and their interests in altcoins then BTC suffers. It's as simple as that.

2.4 millions posts strongly suggest that people who are interested in bitcoin and want to earn it through Altcoins suggests we leave it alone. Altcoins=BTC profitability in the long run. How many people are rushing to Exchanges to trade cash for BTC when it is still very limited as to where and who accepts it? They Exchange cash for BTC in hopes to buy and sell crap altcoins for a profit not to HODL. I buy and sell crappy Altcoins for profit knowing people will buy higher and i sell for profit.
Sorry

Sorry to disagree with u. It seems that u have a misconception that Bitcoin price has a big effect of BitcoinTalk. NO. Reverse is true. Bitcoin price jumping results in lots of discussion in BitcoinTalk. And, at a time, when Google venture to Y-combinator are backing Bitcoin businesses, Alt coin section will have negligible effect on Bitcoin price. So Alt coin section does not need to stay for Bitcoin. It is to stay to add spice to BitcoinTalk Wink

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Quote from: Lauda on August 21, 2014, 07:27:41 PM

Here is a perfect example. Go to the Altcoin section right now.
There is a guy who made 4 threads about Monero being a scam, he and a few others are chatting up them with pure nonsense.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--751124
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/monero-xmr-why-do-people-fall-for-the-shills-and-bullshit-751095

Don't get me wrong. I'm not an active Monero supporter or anything. This is just one of the reasons why the cleanup and banning should be very aggressive. I don't even want to report such reports because of 2 reasons: 1) nobody will attend my report; 2) will probably be rejected, but the moderator is too soft.

I'm not sure what you mean by rejected but the least that will happen to it is it'll get 'ignored' by a few mods, but I handle reports when they come in from the alt section but obviously can only handle reports against newbies currently so can't vouch for what will happen to the others.

As much as I don't care for that section I don't think we should get rid of it, but a few dedicated mods should probably be added to help keep order.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 21, 2014, 07:00:10 PM

Quote from: jackjack on August 21, 2014, 06:58:33 PM

I don't think killing the interest of people only interested in profit through altcoins would be bad for Bitcoin...

I'm with you on that I was talking about nuking the whole section and then banning all altcoin related discussion
It still's needs a place for people to talk about it but with more effective cleaning and moderation from users who want to touch that board.

Indeed that's seems reasonable.
To be honest I don't see what kind of threads should be kept though. Every altcoin-related thread on bitcointalk is either "BUY XCOIN IT'S THE BITCOIN KILLER", "SELL YCOIN, IT'S A SCAM!!! 1!11", or "[ANN] ZCOIN: THE FUTURE OF CRYPTOCYBERCURRENCIES"
But yeah keeping a highly moderated altcoin subforum would prevent people from posting altcoin thread all over bitcointalk

Edit: I just saw that there's no mod anymore on the altcoin subforum? Am I right seeing right? If so, why?

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Yeah, we need some new reguler for altcoin too.
There are so many alt coin and a lot of them is scam.

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I agree it needs cleaning up but Nuking it? You should think twice before you make a Decision like that because it will No doubt hurt this Forum and bitcoin itself. All the altcoins end up being traded for BTC and spurs market activity and price with all the sales. If you Nuke the alt forum on the worlds most popular BTC site then you will drive BTC prices lower and lose tons of people.

Yeah that's because if altcoin sections are removed from bitcointalk.org, there is nowhere else in the internet where the altcoin discussion can take place, right?

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Here is a perfect example. Go to the Altcoin section right now.
There is a guy who made 4 threads about Monero being a scam, he and a few others are chatting up them with pure nonsense.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--751124
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/monero-xmr-why-do-people-fall-for-the-shills-and-bullshit-751095

Don't get me wrong. I'm not an active Monero supporter or anything. This is just one of the reasons why the cleanup and banning should be very aggressive. I don't even want to report such reports because of 2 reasons: 1) nobody will attend my report; 2) will probably be rejected, but the moderator is too soft.

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Quote from: jackjack on August 21, 2014, 06:58:33 PM

I don't think killing the interest of people only interested in profit through altcoins would be bad for Bitcoin...

I'm with you on that I was talking about nuking the whole section and then banning all altcoin related discussion
It still's needs a place for people to talk about it but with more effective cleaning and moderation from users who want to touch that board.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 21, 2014, 06:55:34 PM

Quote from: Minnlo on August 21, 2014, 06:31:49 PM

Nuking the whole altcoin section will lower than number of posts and number of active members here, but why will the bitcoin price drop by 20%? Huh

It might kill a few interested users in Bitcoin who also have an interest in altcoins
Also the forum could read it as a form of censorship that was similar to when Bitcoin was new and was being ignored by other boards and the topics wouldn't even be discussed such as hacker/overclocking forums.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overclocknet-finally-lifted-the-bitcoin-ban-227288
http://www.overclock.net/t/1398181/welcome-to-the-distributed-computing-section

That said the section does need more moderators and cleanups.

I don't think killing the interest of people only interested in profit through altcoins would be bad for Bitcoin...
(The goal of Bitcoin is not being worth $1000000000...)

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Quote from: Minnlo on August 21, 2014, 06:31:49 PM

Nuking the whole altcoin section will lower than number of posts and number of active members here, but why will the bitcoin price drop by 20%? Huh

It might kill a few interested users in Bitcoin who also have an interest in altcoins
Also some in the community could read it as a form of censorship that was similar to when Bitcoin was new and was being ignored by other boards, and the topic couldn't even be discussed in hacker/overclocking forums.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ftioc/after_banning_bitcoin_discussion_for_a_long_time/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overclocknet-finally-lifted-the-bitcoin-ban-227288
http://www.overclock.net/t/1398181/welcome-to-the-distributed-computing-section

That said the section does need more moderators and cleanups.

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