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nioc

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Quote from: Viper1 on September 24, 2014, 10:53:44 PM

Does any one know how long it would take for a TW attack to start to manifest itself?

BCX said 2 days. I don't know when the clock started, some time yesterday? but with what has been done it shouldn't manifest itself.

Quote from: TaunSew on September 24, 2014, 10:56:03 PM

Time warp attack? What is this? Like the Soviet Union going back to kill Einstein or an aged admiral Janeway coming out of the Nebula to save the Voyager?

BCX is going back in time to kill that Rptiela Finnish dude whatever his name? Does this effect our timeline continuum or does it create a new timeline continuum we don't know about?

May I suggest you ask Billy Pilgrim.

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Quote from: Viper1 on September 24, 2014, 10:53:44 PM

Does any one know how long it would take for a TW attack to start to manifest itself?

Time warp attack? What is this? Like the Soviet Union going back to kill Einstein or an aged admiral Janeway coming out of the Nebula to save the Voyager?

BCX is going back in time to kill that Rptiela Finnish dude whatever his name? Does this effect our timeline continuum or does it create a new timeline continuum we don't know about?

Viper1

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Does any one know how long it would take for a TW attack to start to manifest itself?

aminorex

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Sine secretum non libertas

Quote from: manselr on September 24, 2014, 07:32:08 PM

Can a non biased used drop some cliffs for me? Should I sell? Im just a peasant with 30 XMR. I think this coin is LEGIT, had a partnership with i2p, it was great.. but this BCX attack thing is getting on my mother fucking nerves now.

Get used to it. All crypto will always be under threat. You can enjoy the comfort of knowing that the team managing the process has some quite respectable skill at doing so, thus differentiating it from the various one-man shows. XMR is way ahead of where bitcoin was at this age, in every reasonable metric of merit that I have considered - and I have considered many.

Selling would be foolish in my opinion.

I could do without anonymint's "if P=NP then there are many vulnerabilities" posts. He's pretty accurate and insightful, but he completely misleads most readers, and quite recklessly. Arguing math in a troll thread is asinine. I doubt that he's done more good than harm at this point.

All the posturing and threats and chest thumping are just pathetic. I have been there and done that, and I hope I've grown past it. Not much I can do to wean these wet-nappied wailers, though. Pearls would just be trodden anyhow.

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Quote from: smooth on September 24, 2014, 09:14:52 PM

Quote from: manselr on September 24, 2014, 07:32:08 PM

Can a non biased used drop some cliffs for me? Should I sell? Im just a peasant with 30 XMR. I think this coin is LEGIT, had a partnership with i2p, it was great.. but this BCX attack thing is getting on my mother fucking nerves now.

http://bullbearanalytics.com/2014/09/23/whats-going-monero/

Thanks for sharing. It was a good read and seems pretty unbiased.

smooth

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Quote from: manselr on September 24, 2014, 07:32:08 PM

Can a non biased used drop some cliffs for me? Should I sell? Im just a peasant with 30 XMR. I think this coin is LEGIT, had a partnership with i2p, it was great.. but this BCX attack thing is getting on my mother fucking nerves now.

http://bullbearanalytics.com/2014/09/23/whats-going-monero/

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Quote from: matrix961 on September 24, 2014, 07:44:05 PM

Quote from: manselr on September 24, 2014, 07:32:08 PM

Can a non biased used drop some cliffs for me? Should I sell? Im just a peasant with 30 XMR. I think this coin is LEGIT, had a partnership with i2p, it was great.. but this BCX attack thing is getting on my mother fucking nerves now.

I'm holding my stash based on the following.

- devs quick to react and investigate issue instead of just ignoring it.
- other resources pulled together to help (cz, anonymint, jl777).
- communicated to exchanges as a precautionary measure.
- community coming together to show support.

Even if bcx is just talking its important to have devs that are willing to at least take a look and that's what they have been doing a great job of.

+ eleventy bazillion

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Quote from: NewLiberty on September 24, 2014, 05:58:27 PM

Quote from: argentinx on September 24, 2014, 03:44:39 PM

are not English
I'm using google translator
easier the translation
if I divide
phrases

Potete tradurre le frasi avanti e indietro con google un paio di volte fino a che non viene fuori proprio nella traduzione per la lingua?

Once I tried using that method to post a question in Chinese on the Chinese language sub-forum. I don't know what came out, but judging from the replies it must have been something quite funny.

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Quote from: manselr on September 24, 2014, 07:32:08 PM

Can a non biased used drop some cliffs for me? Should I sell? Im just a peasant with 30 XMR. I think this coin is LEGIT, had a partnership with i2p, it was great.. but this BCX attack thing is getting on my mother fucking nerves now.

I'm holding my stash based on the following.

- devs quick to react and investigate issue instead of just ignoring it.
- other resources pulled together to help (cz, anonymint, jl777).
- communicated to exchanges as a precautionary measure.
- community coming together to show support.

Even if bcx is just talking its important to have devs that are willing to at least take a look and that's what they have been doing a great job of.

manselr

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Can a non biased used drop some cliffs for me? Should I sell? Im just a peasant with 30 XMR. I think this coin is LEGIT, had a partnership with i2p, it was great.. but this BCX attack thing is getting on my mother fucking nerves now.

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We need a BitcoinEXpressCoin like a Curecoin panel where we can lend our hashrates to his experiments.
A couple of 1000 users and all shitcoins would be dead Grin

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idiotism

DCRnerd

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Quote from: NewLiberty on September 24, 2014, 06:09:54 PM

Quote from: DCRnerd on September 24, 2014, 05:57:10 PM

Quote from: TheFascistMind on September 24, 2014, 04:30:54 PM

http://bullbearanalytics.com/2014/09/23/whats-going-monero/

The above web page has an error in their summary of events: the (not yet verified by simulation) attack I proposed for unmasking the anonymity of some (not all) of the rings would not require the attacker to own any of the inputs to the rings.

It is not yet known how effective my algorithm is, i.e. what % of the rings would be unmasked and whether the computation would even be feasible on known levels of computing power. If the attacker Sybil attacks the inputs, then the effectiveness probably increases and the potential mitigation probably weakens. But we don't know any thing for sure and we haven't quantified it. All we have now is I showed some pseudocode for how it might be possible and it is impossible from looking at the algorithm to determine if it will be very effective or not. We can hope once we have a simulation it will provide some insight into the quantification of the effectiveness of a Sybil attack on the anonymity.

Co-author of the linked post here. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll make an edit to reflect the info you provided here.

If you are editing, you might consider replacing 'levity' with 'gravity' in your "THE THREAT" section? I think it may have been what you meant.

I certainly did sir. Post updated. Much appreciated.

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Gresham's Lawyer

Quote from: DCRnerd on September 24, 2014, 05:57:10 PM

Quote from: TheFascistMind on September 24, 2014, 04:30:54 PM

http://bullbearanalytics.com/2014/09/23/whats-going-monero/

The above web page has an error in their summary of events: the (not yet verified by simulation) attack I proposed for unmasking the anonymity of some (not all) of the rings would not require the attacker to own any of the inputs to the rings.

It is not yet known how effective my algorithm is, i.e. what % of the rings would be unmasked and whether the computation would even be feasible on known levels of computing power. If the attacker Sybil attacks the inputs, then the effectiveness probably increases and the potential mitigation probably weakens. But we don't know any thing for sure and we haven't quantified it. All we have now is I showed some pseudocode for how it might be possible and it is impossible from looking at the algorithm to determine if it will be very effective or not. We can hope once we have a simulation it will provide some insight into the quantification of the effectiveness of a Sybil attack on the anonymity.

Co-author of the linked post here. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll make an edit to reflect the info you provided here.

If you are editing, you might consider replacing 'levity' with 'gravity' in your "THE THREAT" section? I think it may have been what you meant.

NewLiberty

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Gresham's Lawyer

Quote from: argentinx on September 24, 2014, 03:44:39 PM

are not English
I'm using google translator
easier the translation
if I divide
phrases

Potete tradurre le frasi avanti e indietro con google un paio di volte fino a che non viene fuori proprio nella traduzione per la lingua?

DCRnerd

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Quote from: TheFascistMind on September 24, 2014, 04:30:54 PM

http://bullbearanalytics.com/2014/09/23/whats-going-monero/

The above web page has an error in their summary of events: the (not yet verified by simulation) attack I proposed for unmasking the anonymity of some (not all) of the rings would not require the attacker to own any of the inputs to the rings.

It is not yet known how effective my algorithm is, i.e. what % of the rings would be unmasked and whether the computation would even be feasible on known levels of computing power. If the attacker Sybil attacks the inputs, then the effectiveness probably increases and the potential mitigation probably weakens. But we don't know any thing for sure and we haven't quantified it. All we have now is I showed some pseudocode for how it might be possible and it is impossible from looking at the algorithm to determine if it will be very effective or not. We can hope once we have a simulation it will provide some insight into the quantification of the effectiveness of a Sybil attack on the anonymity.

Co-author of the linked post here. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll make an edit to reflect the info you provided here.

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Quote from: Come-In-Behind on September 24, 2014, 03:43:03 PM

Quote from: argentinx on September 24, 2014, 03:33:09 PM

TheFascistMind is a good idea
but the remerge

Just One Question: Why the hell are you typing like that? Cheesy

This, it's fucking impossible to read. Wink

x, why don't you stop being a solipsistic english-speaking prick and get over it?

argentinx told you why he does it and he is trying to contribute. What are you contributing, besides your crybaby tears?

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Quote from: PestoQuinty on September 24, 2014, 04:10:27 PM

Quote from: gwada971 on September 24, 2014, 04:09:57 PM

Wish that's all of these will be behind soon, and monero dev could work on the final GUI and the DB !! (eat my RAM Wink

Yes, please!

I have windows 8, pentium chip, 4GB RAM. I am currently running a full node, mining, (not with wallet), with both threads = 100% cpu, on bct forum on chrome, watching video on IE, while playing poker on the intertubes.

Yes the DB will be finished soon®

If you would like to donate to the dev fund any amount would be appreciated.

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http://bullbearanalytics.com/2014/09/23/whats-going-monero/

The above web page has an error in their summary of events: the (not yet verified by simulation) attack I proposed for unmasking the anonymity of some (not all) of the rings would not require the attacker to own any of the inputs to the rings.

It is not yet known how effective my algorithm is, i.e. what % of the rings would be unmasked and whether the computation would even be feasible on known levels of computing power. If the attacker Sybil attacks the inputs, then the effectiveness probably increases and the potential mitigation probably weakens. But we don't know any thing for sure and we haven't quantified it. All we have now is I showed some pseudocode for how it might be possible and it is impossible from looking at the algorithm to determine if it will be very effective or not. We can hope once we have a simulation it will provide some insight into the quantification of the effectiveness of a Sybil attack on the anonymity.

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Quote from: gwada971 on September 24, 2014, 04:09:57 PM

Wish that's all of these will be behind soon, and monero dev could work on the final GUI and the DB !! (eat my RAM Wink

Yes, please!

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