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Quote from: Nadicona on November 29, 2015, 06:35:08 AM

Fury cards may be good for X11 or Quark. It is not good for Ethereum mining. The memory speed is not high even though the bandwidth is high.

Since HBM should have lower latency as well, leading to potentially better random access to memory as needed by eth mining, I see no reason why an optimised opencl compiler (and maybe opencl code) couldn't bring nice performance to the fury as well.

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Quote from: pallas on November 29, 2015, 09:29:07 AM

Quote from: Nadicona on November 29, 2015, 06:35:08 AM

Fury cards may be good for X11 or Quark. It is not good for Ethereum mining. The memory speed is not high even though the bandwidth is high.

The kernels and/or compiler may improve for Fiji chips in the future, meanwhile the non-ram based algos are performing just fine, very similar to hawaii.

Most GPUs are mining Ethereum at the moment. The total hash rate is 500G. The 280X speed is about 25MH/s. So there are about 20,000 280X equivalent cards there. It is much more than any other coins added up.

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Quote from: Nadicona on November 29, 2015, 06:35:08 AM

Fury cards may be good for X11 or Quark. It is not good for Ethereum mining. The memory speed is not high even though the bandwidth is high.

The kernels and/or compiler may improve for Fiji chips in the future, meanwhile the non-ram based algos are performing just fine, very similar to hawaii.

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Fury cards may be good for X11 or Quark. It is not good for Ethereum mining. The memory speed is not high even though the bandwidth is high.

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Quote from: pallas on November 28, 2015, 05:48:13 AM

Quote from: Eliovp on November 28, 2015, 05:43:32 AM

Quote from: pallas on November 28, 2015, 05:34:49 AM

Quote from: pallas on November 27, 2015, 10:25:34 AM

Quote from: sp_ on November 27, 2015, 10:21:51 AM

I sold a couple of r9 280x and I picked up a cheap r9 nano. I wonder if the 4096 shaders@175w can be used for mining.

cheers

I did some tests and found it behaves pretty much like Hawaii, maybe a bit less power usage.
But a new driver just came out so the tests need to be done again, as the new driver may include an updated compiler (which is not uncommon when a new chip is out).
Maybe someone tested the new driver already?

Tried it now. Fiji is indeed slightly faster, but the new driver doesn't let me change clocks on the 290x any longer! :-(

Interesting.

Going to try that out later today.

What OS is that Pallas?

Ubuntu 15.04 64bit.
I'll add slightly faster and slightly smaller fiji binary, not sure if it changes anything without recompiling the kernel.
It looks like it doesn't detect the 290x properly, as it's the only card which "hasn't got a name":

Adapter 0 - AMD Radeon (TM) R9 Fury Series
Adapter 1 - Supported device 67B0 <=============
Adapter 2 - AMD Radeon R9 200 Series

That's probably the reason why you're not able to change clocks on that 290x.

I'm going to do a test run on windows to see what it does over there.

Will update as soon as possible

, i'll throw in some power usage as well.

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Quote from: Eliovp on November 28, 2015, 05:43:32 AM

Quote from: pallas on November 28, 2015, 05:34:49 AM

Quote from: pallas on November 27, 2015, 10:25:34 AM

Quote from: sp_ on November 27, 2015, 10:21:51 AM

I sold a couple of r9 280x and I picked up a cheap r9 nano. I wonder if the 4096 shaders@175w can be used for mining.

cheers

I did some tests and found it behaves pretty much like Hawaii, maybe a bit less power usage.
But a new driver just came out so the tests need to be done again, as the new driver may include an updated compiler (which is not uncommon when a new chip is out).
Maybe someone tested the new driver already?

Tried it now. Fiji is indeed slightly faster, but the new driver doesn't let me change clocks on the 290x any longer! :-(

Interesting.

Going to try that out later today.

What OS is that Pallas?

Ubuntu 15.04 64bit.
I'll add slightly faster and slightly smaller fiji binary, not sure if it changes anything without recompiling the kernel.
It looks like it doesn't detect the 290x properly, as it's the only card which "hasn't got a name":

Adapter 0 - AMD Radeon (TM) R9 Fury Series
Adapter 1 - Supported device 67B0 <=============
Adapter 2 - AMD Radeon R9 200 Series

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Huh?

Quote from: pallas on November 28, 2015, 05:34:49 AM

Quote from: pallas on November 27, 2015, 10:25:34 AM

Quote from: sp_ on November 27, 2015, 10:21:51 AM

I sold a couple of r9 280x and I picked up a cheap r9 nano. I wonder if the 4096 shaders@175w can be used for mining.

cheers

I did some tests and found it behaves pretty much like Hawaii, maybe a bit less power usage.
But a new driver just came out so the tests need to be done again, as the new driver may include an updated compiler (which is not uncommon when a new chip is out).
Maybe someone tested the new driver already?

Tried it now. Fiji is indeed slightly faster, but the new driver doesn't let me change clocks on the 290x any longer! :-(

Interesting.

Going to try that out later today.

What OS is that Pallas?

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Quote from: pallas on November 27, 2015, 10:25:34 AM

Quote from: sp_ on November 27, 2015, 10:21:51 AM

I sold a couple of r9 280x and I picked up a cheap r9 nano. I wonder if the 4096 shaders@175w can be used for mining.

cheers

I did some tests and found it behaves pretty much like Hawaii, maybe a bit less power usage.
But a new driver just came out so the tests need to be done again, as the new driver may include an updated compiler (which is not uncommon when a new chip is out).
Maybe someone tested the new driver already?

Tried it now. Fiji is indeed slightly faster, but the new driver doesn't let me change clocks on the 290x any longer! :-(

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Quote from: sp_ on November 27, 2015, 10:35:32 AM

Quote from: pallas on November 27, 2015, 10:25:34 AM

Quote from: sp_ on November 27, 2015, 10:21:51 AM

I sold a couple of r9 280x and I picked up a cheap r9 nano. I wonder if the 4096 shaders@175w can be used for mining.

cheers

I did some tests and found it behaves pretty much like Hawaii, maybe a bit less power usage.But a new driver just came out so the tests need to be done again, as the new driver may include an updated compiler (which is not uncommon when a new chip is out).
Maybe someone tested the new driver already?

I got it new for $500 with free shipping(black friday sale). Will probobly never ROI, but I need some more challenges. Furyx users renamed wolf0's hawaii bins and upgraded to the latest driver to get a boost. (x11)

That's very interesting sp, i own a few fury's and i'm very interested in what you can achieve.

I've done some tests on few algo's a few months ago. You can see the results here. (you probably remember those as you were active in that thread as well..)

Quark: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11993624
X11: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11880191
X13: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11953566

I'm curious!

Greetings

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Quote from: BitmoreCoin on June 24, 2015, 09:24:24 AM

Quote from: sp_ on June 23, 2015, 04:09:14 AM

NVIDIA sp-mod(open source):
quark: 980ti (23MHASH)
980 (19MHASH)
   970 (15.5MHASH)
   960 (10MHASH)
   750ti (6MHASH)
A Fury X mining quark with the opensource kernal will be slower than a 7950 with the wolf0 kernal.. and 3x slower than the NVIDIA 980ti

The performance between 980ti and 970 is 23/15.5=1.48. The processor difference is 2816/1664=1.69
The performance between 980 and 970 is 19/15.5=1.22. The processor difference is 2048/1664=1.23
Why 980Ti is less efficient per core? Is that limited by power?

ccminer Sp-mod release 74 is doing

26.5 MHASH on the standard clocked gigabyte windforce G1 980ti (8pin+8pin power)
20 MHASH on the standard clocked zotac amph 980 (8pin+6pin power)
17.5 MHASH on the standard clocked gigabyte windforce G1 970 (8pin+6pin power)
10.7MHASH on the standard clocked asus swix 960 (6pin power)
8.5MHASH on the standard clockes EVGA SCC 950 (6pin power)
6.25MHASH on the standard clocked asus swix 750ti (no external power)
5.1MHASH on the standard clocked 1gb gigbyte 750 (no external power)

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Quote from: pallas on November 27, 2015, 10:25:34 AM

Quote from: sp_ on November 27, 2015, 10:21:51 AM

I sold a couple of r9 280x and I picked up a cheap r9 nano. I wonder if the 4096 shaders@175w can be used for mining.

cheers

I did some tests and found it behaves pretty much like Hawaii, maybe a bit less power usage.But a new driver just came out so the tests need to be done again, as the new driver may include an updated compiler (which is not uncommon when a new chip is out).
Maybe someone tested the new driver already?

I got it new for $500 with free shipping(black friday sale). Will probobly never ROI, but I need some more challenges. Furyx users renamed wolf0's hawaii bins and upgraded to the latest driver to get a boost. (x11)

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Quote from: sp_ on November 27, 2015, 10:21:51 AM

I sold a couple of r9 280x and I picked up a cheap r9 nano. I wonder if the 4096 shaders@175w can be used for mining.

cheers

I did some tests and found it behaves pretty much like Hawaii, maybe a bit less power usage.
But a new driver just came out so the tests need to be done again, as the new driver may include an updated compiler (which is not uncommon when a new chip is out).
Maybe someone tested the new driver already?

sp_

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I sold a couple of r9 280x and I picked up a cheap r9 nano. I wonder if the 4096 shaders@175w can be used for mining.

cheers

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Quote from: pallas on July 03, 2015, 06:55:28 AM

Quote from: Eliovp on July 03, 2015, 06:50:50 AM

Regarding the new 390X:

It's now pulling 267,5 Watts at full load, Clocks: 1080/1500, Fans @ 100%, 35C outside, card is at 65C

Haven't had time yet to do more tests but will definitely do soon.

Will update this post when i do.

Greetings

thanks for the info.
is it less or equal to a 290x with the same configuration?

It should be the exact same. It's the same card essentially overclocked. Doesn't even rename the bin to Grenada it still works on under the Hawaii name.

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Quote from: Eliovp on July 03, 2015, 06:50:50 AM

Regarding the new 390X:

It's now pulling 267,5 Watts at full load, Clocks: 1080/1500, Fans @ 100%, 35C outside, card is at 65C

Haven't had time yet to do more tests but will definitely do soon.

Will update this post when i do.

Greetings

thanks for the info.
is it less or equal to a 290x with the same configuration?

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Huh?

Regarding the new 390X:

It's now pulling 267,5 Watts at full load, Clocks: 1080/1500, Fans @ 100%, 35C outside, card is at 65C

Haven't had time yet to do more tests but will definitely do soon.

Will update this post when i do.

Greetings

Edit:

Here's a picture of the wattage when running at full load with 5 cards. (Mixed Rig)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_cBBoZ_PTwOYVd4Sk92ZnJFdDd6b2FlbjFubm5vSWtXSGY4

A 390X, 2x 290(regular) and 2x 280x

@Pallas

I might just do a test for you

Give me a few minutes!

Edit 2:

So the wattage i said earlier was at full load when mining Sia.

Here's the wattage when mining Quark.. serious difference i might say
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_cBBoZ_PTwOZHEwWXNaa3NRZVFQQUI4STFfU2luQUExeFhv
So let's say 75 Watts for Mobo, proc, mem, etc.. (including Fans connected to mobo) , so around 250 Watts for the card at full load. Give or take..

Also here's a screenshot with some more info
http://s15.postimg.org/hi31rrky3/quark390x.png

Will get some testresults of one of my 290x's soon. They're in another rig and don't want to get them out now.

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Quote from: kingcolex on June 16, 2015, 12:57:38 PM

Today AMD announced their new line of cards which includes the r9 fury x, fury, nano but when it comes to gpu mining the nano caught my eye. It is 2x as powerful as the r9 290x per watt and only 6 inches, the card won't probably be a full 2x as powerful as a 290x but somewhere around 1.3-1.5 with less wattage and heat. The price for the fury air is 550$ so we are looking below that for the nano, I would assume around 450$ but will go down in price just like the 290x did. Do you think due to size and wattage this could be the new king of gpu mining, especially when the price dips a bit?

Not waiting for the price to drop, when they get released, I'm getting one.

Nice lipstick.

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Quote from: platinum4 on July 02, 2015, 09:35:30 AM

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I am sure they will but in the mean time you could do a dual boot of the windows 10 beta release for free and later this month it will activate to 100% genuine and just use that os for mining. I haven't had any issue with 8.1 software and drivers running on 10.

lmao you won't be convincing pallas to switch to Windows anytime soon

Not a full time just a dual boot for specifically mining while we wait for linux drivers, I love linux as well

I dual boot mint on my desktop but I'll be honest it hasn't received much love recently.

I have an esternal drive booting to win 7. Good for compiling miners or kernels ;-)

Back to the topic: any new fury x mining hashrates available?

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Quote from: platinum4 on July 02, 2015, 09:35:30 AM

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I am sure they will but in the mean time you could do a dual boot of the windows 10 beta release for free and later this month it will activate to 100% genuine and just use that os for mining. I haven't had any issue with 8.1 software and drivers running on 10.

lmao you won't be convincing pallas to switch to Windows anytime soon

those linux geeks are so close-minded! :-D

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I am sure they will but in the mean time you could do a dual boot of the windows 10 beta release for free and later this month it will activate to 100% genuine and just use that os for mining. I haven't had any issue with 8.1 software and drivers running on 10.

lmao you won't be convincing pallas to switch to Windows anytime soon

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