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legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
July 01, 2015, 06:57:47 AM
#39
According to this page:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

The drivers for radeon 300 and fury series are available for windows 8.1/7 64bit only.
I'm wondering if they work correctly with the standard driver on linux and what about opencl.
Let's hope they upload the linux version soon!
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
July 01, 2015, 06:01:32 AM
#38
Note that the stolen wolf0 binaries for x11,x13,x15 binaries will most likely not work on the new hardware, so you are stuck with the opensourceminer. I doubt that wolf0 will be kind enough to compile new binaries and hand them out for free, but he will probobly sell them.

The current speed of the opensourceminer on the 280x is around:

x11: 4,4mhash/s
x13: 3Mhash/s
x15: 2.5mhash/s
quark: 2mhash/s
qubit: 3.5mhash/s

wolf0's private AMD kernal speeds on the 280x (in MHASH/s):

x11: 6,5 mhash/s (1.47x faster)
x13: 5,0 mhash/s (1.66x faster)
x15: 4.5 mhash/s (1.50x faster)
quark: 11 mhash/s (5.50x faster)
qubit: 10 mhash/s (2.80x faster

My private AMD kernal(more speed and kernals are coming):

quark: 4,5mhash/s (2.25x faster)

NVIDIA sp-mod(open source):

quark: 980ti (23MHASH)
          980 (19MHASH)
          970 (15.5MHASH)
          960 (10MHASH)
          750ti (6MHASH)
A Fury X mining quark with the opensource kernal will be slower than a 7950 with the wolf0 kernal.. and 3x slower than the NVIDIA 980ti

Without the private kernals (only using  the opensource kernals), the furyx perfoms a bit slower than an overclocked 280x.
Lyra and neoscrypt is dead slow...

AMD Radeon R9 Fury X Results:
– Neoscrypt default: 147 KHS
– Lyra2RE default: 287 KHS
– Lyra2RE Pallas Mod: 450 KHS
there are most likely doing something wrong  Grin
they need to play a bit with parameter tuning... technically the high memory bandwidth should allow a lot faster than the 290x and most likely anything around

lyra2re depends much on latency, so the added bandwidth may not be of help, especially if they traded bandwidth for latency (did they?) ;-)
Results from algos which do not use global memory access are more interesting than those, IMHO: we could see if the "same wattage but more shaders" equation is true.
I would expect smaller latencies (assuming it is related...) as the memory is pretty close  to the gpu
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
July 01, 2015, 05:58:08 AM
#37
there are most likely doing something wrong  Grin
they need to play a bit with parameter tuning... technically the high memory bandwidth should allow a lot faster than the 290x and most likely anything around

The miners need some more free DJM34 hardcore coding. Can you do it? I will donate 0.02BTC Wink
sure if someone is willing to donate a fury X first  Grin
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
July 01, 2015, 05:50:40 AM
#36
there are most likely doing something wrong  Grin
they need to play a bit with parameter tuning... technically the high memory bandwidth should allow a lot faster than the 290x and most likely anything around

The miners need some more free DJM34 hardcore coding. Can you do it? I will donate 0.02BTC Wink
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
July 01, 2015, 05:48:59 AM
#35
Note that the stolen wolf0 binaries for x11,x13,x15 binaries will most likely not work on the new hardware, so you are stuck with the opensourceminer. I doubt that wolf0 will be kind enough to compile new binaries and hand them out for free, but he will probobly sell them.

The current speed of the opensourceminer on the 280x is around:

x11: 4,4mhash/s
x13: 3Mhash/s
x15: 2.5mhash/s
quark: 2mhash/s
qubit: 3.5mhash/s

wolf0's private AMD kernal speeds on the 280x (in MHASH/s):

x11: 6,5 mhash/s (1.47x faster)
x13: 5,0 mhash/s (1.66x faster)
x15: 4.5 mhash/s (1.50x faster)
quark: 11 mhash/s (5.50x faster)
qubit: 10 mhash/s (2.80x faster

My private AMD kernal(more speed and kernals are coming):

quark: 4,5mhash/s (2.25x faster)

NVIDIA sp-mod(open source):

quark: 980ti (23MHASH)
          980 (19MHASH)
          970 (15.5MHASH)
          960 (10MHASH)
          750ti (6MHASH)
A Fury X mining quark with the opensource kernal will be slower than a 7950 with the wolf0 kernal.. and 3x slower than the NVIDIA 980ti

Without the private kernals (only using  the opensource kernals), the furyx perfoms a bit slower than an overclocked 280x.
Lyra and neoscrypt is dead slow...

AMD Radeon R9 Fury X Results:
– Neoscrypt default: 147 KHS
– Lyra2RE default: 287 KHS
– Lyra2RE Pallas Mod: 450 KHS
there are most likely doing something wrong  Grin
they need to play a bit with parameter tuning... technically the high memory bandwidth should allow a lot faster than the 290x and most likely anything around

lyra2re depends much on latency, so the added bandwidth may not be of help, especially if they traded bandwidth for latency (did they?) ;-)
Results from algos which do not use global memory access are more interesting than those, IMHO: we could see if the "same wattage but more shaders" equation is true.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
July 01, 2015, 05:37:33 AM
#34
Note that the stolen wolf0 binaries for x11,x13,x15 binaries will most likely not work on the new hardware, so you are stuck with the opensourceminer. I doubt that wolf0 will be kind enough to compile new binaries and hand them out for free, but he will probobly sell them.

The current speed of the opensourceminer on the 280x is around:

x11: 4,4mhash/s
x13: 3Mhash/s
x15: 2.5mhash/s
quark: 2mhash/s
qubit: 3.5mhash/s

wolf0's private AMD kernal speeds on the 280x (in MHASH/s):

x11: 6,5 mhash/s (1.47x faster)
x13: 5,0 mhash/s (1.66x faster)
x15: 4.5 mhash/s (1.50x faster)
quark: 11 mhash/s (5.50x faster)
qubit: 10 mhash/s (2.80x faster

My private AMD kernal(more speed and kernals are coming):

quark: 4,5mhash/s (2.25x faster)

NVIDIA sp-mod(open source):

quark: 980ti (23MHASH)
          980 (19MHASH)
          970 (15.5MHASH)
          960 (10MHASH)
          750ti (6MHASH)
A Fury X mining quark with the opensource kernal will be slower than a 7950 with the wolf0 kernal.. and 3x slower than the NVIDIA 980ti

Without the private kernals (only using  the opensource kernals), the furyx perfoms a bit slower than an overclocked 280x.
Lyra and neoscrypt is dead slow...

AMD Radeon R9 Fury X Results:
– Neoscrypt default: 147 KHS
– Lyra2RE default: 287 KHS
– Lyra2RE Pallas Mod: 450 KHS
there are most likely doing something wrong  Grin
they need to play a bit with parameter tuning... technically the high memory bandwidth should allow a lot faster than the 290x and most likely anything around
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
July 01, 2015, 05:34:02 AM
#33
Note that the stolen wolf0 binaries for x11,x13,x15 binaries will most likely not work on the new hardware, so you are stuck with the opensourceminer. I doubt that wolf0 will be kind enough to compile new binaries and hand them out for free, but he will probobly sell them.

The current speed of the opensourceminer on the 280x is around:

x11: 4,4mhash/s
x13: 3Mhash/s
x15: 2.5mhash/s
quark: 2mhash/s
qubit: 3.5mhash/s

wolf0's private AMD kernal speeds on the 280x (in MHASH/s):

x11: 6,5 mhash/s (1.47x faster)
x13: 5,0 mhash/s (1.66x faster)
x15: 4.5 mhash/s (1.50x faster)
quark: 11 mhash/s (5.50x faster)
qubit: 10 mhash/s (2.80x faster

My private AMD kernal(more speed and kernals are coming):

quark: 4,5mhash/s (2.25x faster)

NVIDIA sp-mod(open source):

quark: 980ti (23MHASH)
          980 (19MHASH)
          970 (15.5MHASH)
          960 (10MHASH)
          750ti (6MHASH)
A Fury X mining quark with the opensource kernal will be slower than a 7950 with the wolf0 kernal.. and 3x slower than the NVIDIA 980ti

Without the private kernals (only using  the opensource kernals), the furyx perfoms a bit slower than an overclocked 280x.
Lyra and neoscrypt is dead slow...

AMD Radeon R9 Fury X Results:
– X11 default: 6.778 MHS
– X13 default: 5.614 MHS
– X15 default: 4.69 MHS
– Neoscrypt default: 147 KHS
– Lyra2RE default: 287 KHS
– Lyra2RE Pallas Mod: 450 KHS

quark: ?
qubit: ?
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
July 01, 2015, 04:37:38 AM
#32
http://cryptomining-blog.com/5201-trying-out-the-new-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-for-crypto-currency-mining/

The Quark and qubit performance was pretty good, the rest needs some more work... Lyra2RE and neoscrypt is slooow...

AMD Radeon R9 Fury X Results:
– X11 default: 6.778 MHS
– X11 Wolf0 Mod: 8.123 MHS (closed source)
– X13 default: 5.614 MHS
– X13 Wolf0 Mod: 7.176 MHS (closed source)
– X15 default: 4.69 MHS
– X15 Wolf0 Mod: 6.335 MHS (closed source)
– Quark modified: 22.37 MHS (windows only, closed sgminer and kernal sources)
– Qubit modified: 21.15 MHS (windows only, closed sgminer and kernal sources)
– Neoscrypt default: 147 KHS
– Lyra2RE default: 287 KHS
– Lyra2RE Pallas Mod: 450 KHS


hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
July 01, 2015, 02:09:12 AM
#31
380 is rebranded 285.
Who cares. The shelf price is at least 30% lower here.

So, maybe it's the same thing to you. It isn't to me.
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
June 30, 2015, 11:16:24 AM
#30
I have working hawaii bins that will work on the new cards for qubit and quark.

Around 15MHASH +++ on the 390x.

Please donate 0.1 BTC to my BTC adress and I will tell you how to do it.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
June 30, 2015, 01:03:25 AM
#29
I have no idea how you guys insist on top-end cards. They have a well known premium.
It looks to me the card to buy is 380. It seems very affordable around here and Tonga has byte-lookup instructions. With recompiled kernels there could be a nice speedup (or not...).

As a side note: 7750 can do well in excess of 2 qubit MHS with publicly available kernels. Users able to run it on big cards (I don't remember which card) told me they go over 10M. I'm inclined to believe another 50% is possible.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1293
Huh?
June 29, 2015, 12:27:13 PM
#28
A single 980ti is aleady doing 23MHASH on the default clocks. (quark)



Fury X will beat that :p

Got a new 390x today, it's running fine now

Will order a meter and post my findings later this week.


Greetings
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
June 29, 2015, 07:45:15 AM
#27
A single 980ti is aleady doing 23MHASH on the default clocks. (quark)

sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
June 29, 2015, 07:40:02 AM
#26
AMD Radeon Fury X : Fiji XT   
AMD Radeon Fury: Fiji PRO   
AMD Radeon R9 390X: Hawaii XT
AMD Radeon R9 290X: Hawaii XT

It looks like wolf0 can make some more Bitcoins. the furyx and fury chips are probobly not compatible with the hawaii bin files..
Without wolf's bin's the furyx will run x11 slower than the 7970


The 7970 is a 4 year old design (the first cards came around Jan 9, 2012)
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
June 29, 2015, 07:14:46 AM
#25
Yes you're right, tested it on 3 algo's, quark, X11 and Sia
Difference was close to nothing on all 3 algo's
I should get me a new meter to see how much electricity it was pulling.
I'll order one tomorrow :-)

What hashrate do you get in  the quark algo on the 390x?
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
June 29, 2015, 05:55:15 AM
#24
I got an R9 390x this weekend.

My first impression.

I ran it next to a Sapphire R9 290X 8Gb Mem, hash rate was almost exactly the same. If you didn't know they were different, you wouldn't have noticed.

What it "did" very well, and yes, it "did" it.. haha, was OC, Sapphire is known to be able to OC very good.
This was no exception.

+ that it stayed almost 10degrees cooler then the 290X
Maybe that's a coincidence, maybe not.

10 min after i did some tests, i rebooted and it never came alive again.

So for those interested in buying a 390x. Think Twice... Buy a 290x, which does the same thing but cheaper!


As soon as The Fury X arrives (next week it seems) i'll be posting my findings.


Greetings
if you don't measure power usage, you might not find big difference, also if you just tried an algo might not be significant either...

This is a bit thin, what you say here (and I am not defending amd or else... as I am rather an nvidia guy...).


Yes you're right, tested it on 3 algo's, quark, X11 and Sia

Difference was close to nothing on all 3 algo's

I should get me a new meter to see how much electricity it was pulling.

I'll order one tomorrow :-)
try also a memory hard algo (with the fury X), those algo doesn't use any memory so basically it is just the performance at doing calculation. Not sure it should really change a lot, they just depend on the number of core/shader/thread
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
June 28, 2015, 07:16:54 PM
#23
wow  Shocked
I have VGA more than that but the size is really big
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1293
Huh?
June 28, 2015, 05:26:56 PM
#22
I got an R9 390x this weekend.

My first impression.

I ran it next to a Sapphire R9 290X 8Gb Mem, hash rate was almost exactly the same. If you didn't know they were different, you wouldn't have noticed.

What it "did" very well, and yes, it "did" it.. haha, was OC, Sapphire is known to be able to OC very good.
This was no exception.

+ that it stayed almost 10degrees cooler then the 290X
Maybe that's a coincidence, maybe not.

10 min after i did some tests, i rebooted and it never came alive again.

So for those interested in buying a 390x. Think Twice... Buy a 290x, which does the same thing but cheaper!


As soon as The Fury X arrives (next week it seems) i'll be posting my findings.


Greetings
if you don't measure power usage, you might not find big difference, also if you just tried an algo might not be significant either...

This is a bit thin, what you say here (and I am not defending amd or else... as I am rather an nvidia guy...).


Yes you're right, tested it on 3 algo's, quark, X11 and Sia

Difference was close to nothing on all 3 algo's

I should get me a new meter to see how much electricity it was pulling.

I'll order one tomorrow :-)
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
June 28, 2015, 05:02:01 PM
#21
I got an R9 390x this weekend.

My first impression.

I ran it next to a Sapphire R9 290X 8Gb Mem, hash rate was almost exactly the same. If you didn't know they were different, you wouldn't have noticed.

What it "did" very well, and yes, it "did" it.. haha, was OC, Sapphire is known to be able to OC very good.
This was no exception.

+ that it stayed almost 10degrees cooler then the 290X
Maybe that's a coincidence, maybe not.

10 min after i did some tests, i rebooted and it never came alive again.

So for those interested in buying a 390x. Think Twice... Buy a 290x, which does the same thing but cheaper!


As soon as The Fury X arrives (next week it seems) i'll be posting my findings.


Greetings
if you don't measure power usage, you might not find big difference, also if you just tried an algo might not be significant either...

This is a bit thin, what you say here (and I am not defending amd or else... as I am rather an nvidia guy...).
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1293
Huh?
June 28, 2015, 03:43:07 PM
#20
I got an R9 390x this weekend.

My first impression.

I ran it next to a Sapphire R9 290X 8Gb Mem, hash rate was almost exactly the same. If you didn't know they were different, you wouldn't have noticed.

What it "did" very well, and yes, it "did" it.. haha, was OC, Sapphire is known to be able to OC very good.
This was no exception.

+ that it stayed almost 10degrees cooler then the 290X
Maybe that's a coincidence, maybe not.

10 min after i did some tests, i rebooted and it never came alive again.

So for those interested in buying a 390x. Think Twice... Buy a 290x, which does the same thing but cheaper!


As soon as The Fury X arrives (next week it seems) i'll be posting my findings.


Greetings
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