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This idea doesn't follow. I mean this fellow cannot join a flowing conversation because something written months ago might not be relevant for current discussion. If I should ask, what happened to his brain. After making the first post, was the user's brain blocked from producing more posts?
There is an ulterior motive why someone would do it, but I believe they are just part of spammers.
So far I'm not sure if I've ever found anyone who did, but what @lovesmayfamilis is talking about is something that may have happened before during an ICO and the bounty exploded.

There have been a lot of bounty spammers gone since the forums introduced the merit system. Many accounts were simply abandoned and only some of them started changing their posting patterns and quality in order to rank up and build a better reputation.
The way people talk about this ICO period, it seems that many shits really happened then. I think it was worse because I have read somewhere that some user alleged that the level of spamming then contributed to why some quality users left the forum. I don't know how true this claim is but I have my doubts. If the ICO spam was much, the spam should be concentrated in the altcoins board and not the forum at large. I mean anyone can ignore a certain board and continue using the forum.
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Well, members who do so because they want to impress a campaign manager with their low activity but high merit will not even get accepted because almost all the managers have one similar characteristics for the selection of members during application which I have noticed. I will not mention what it is, but campaign managers don't even only look at merit earned; that's why you hear them (managers) saying that you should earn at least five merits in the last 120 days.

    It's always a member's decision to delete only a few posts (which is not bad) that they consider trash, as it doesn't look good on their profile again, but wanting to delete 100 or more posts at once is just a bit unethical.
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That didn't happen in the ICO era, I haven't heard of that but it happened recently, maybe 1 year ago at maximum. There was a user who posted the same topic a few times. They used to delete the previous topic and create a new one exactly with the same content. They were trying to get merit twice for the same post lol and sadly they were able to get some merit until they were exposed.
Thanks for reminding me about the case, it's true that it happened more than a year ago which we can find in the thread referenced by @tranthidung. But during the ICO, I think some users also had similar habits like the above case. They're not doing it for merit, but I'm not sure what the motive is other than just not wanting to bother with making different posts in different threads.

I don't remember who did it, but someone seems to have uncovered it at the time. That is cheat behavior that is most likely just ripping off the campaign/ bounty manager. But deleting posts when you're not using any kind of signature for the purpose of ridding yourself of past junk wouldn't be a problem in my opinion.
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There was a user who posted the same topic a few times. They used to delete the previous topic and create a new one exactly with the same content. They were trying to get merit twice for the same post lol and sadly they were able to get some merit until they were exposed.
The case was solved and second chance should be given to any member who deserves it.

I believe it is the case you are talking about as I have never known about any similar case. He can receive merit by bumping his threads and don't need to archive old ones and create new ones.

That's right; thanks for the reminder. I couldn't remember the details, but I remembered that I had seen it.
Pretty tricky behavior, probably. Then I suggested that perhaps there are such craftsmen who, by deleting old posts, can write them again.
Thank you for pointing me to the right topic. There are so many events on the forum that some topics simply remain in memory but without specific individuals. Smiley
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There was a user who posted the same topic a few times. They used to delete the previous topic and create a new one exactly with the same content. They were trying to get merit twice for the same post lol and sadly they were able to get some merit until they were exposed.
The case was solved and second chance should be given to any member who deserves it.

I believe it is the case you are talking about as I have never known about any similar case. He can receive merit by bumping his threads and don't need to archive old ones and create new ones.
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but what @lovesmayfamilis is talking about is something that may have happened before during an ICO and the bounty exploded.
That didn't happen in the ICO era, I haven't heard of that but it happened recently, maybe 1 year ago at maximum. There was a user who posted the same topic a few times. They used to delete the previous topic and create a new one exactly with the same content. They were trying to get merit twice for the same post lol and sadly they were able to get some merit until they were exposed.
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This idea doesn't follow. I mean this fellow cannot join a flowing conversation because something written months ago might not be relevant for current discussion. If I should ask, what happened to his brain. After making the first post, was the user's brain blocked from producing more posts?
There is an ulterior motive why someone would do it, but I believe they are just part of spammers.
So far I'm not sure if I've ever found anyone who did, but what @lovesmayfamilis is talking about is something that may have happened before during an ICO and the bounty exploded.

There have been a lot of bounty spammers gone since the forums introduced the merit system. Many accounts were simply abandoned and only some of them started changing their posting patterns and quality in order to rank up and build a better reputation.
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I think there are only few members who do that and that's their right so no one can stop them from doing that. I don't think that deleting one's posts and making post to merit ratio higher would give someone edge over others when it comes to signature campaigns. A campaign manager often tries to select those members in his/her campaign that can write well constructed content which can help a campaign to get more attention of the forum users. For example a user having 1000+ merits having only 700 posts which are well constructed while another user having 1000+ merits having more than 15k+ unconstructed posts. In this case the one with 1000+ merits and 700 posts would get high priority to be accepted in a campaign than the one with 15k+ unconstructed posts.

That only works if you only delete the posts that have no merit on them. Because if you do, anyone can just look at your merit page and see a bunch of merit transactions for "(deleted/off-limits/ignored)", and even if you do that, looking at your post history and seeing all posts merited is going to look extremely fishy especially if people can see you are posting multiple times per day.
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What do you guys think or make of this?

I know several users that are deleting their posts after a certain period of time for privacy reasons. I guess, most of them know that their posts are also tracked via tools like Ninjastic or BPIP, but they don't want the posts to be found directly via Bitcointalk.

I think that is a fair concern. Not everyone wants their posts to be found via Google at first glance even years later.

I do not believe that the post/merit ratio is the decisive point here.

I do not get the privacy reason for deleting the posts. Is there any confidential information in those deleted posts that can harm the privacy? I am sure this is not the case.
Also, the merit-to-post ratio should not be a concern here because most managers will either look for the merits attained in the last 120 days or they will manually see the posting habits and sections where the person posts.

Maybe those people are deleting the posts as they think they have posted using AI or something like that and they now fear that they might get caught someday, so they decide to delete the old posts. That can be one possible reason.
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Was a story, the user deleted his old posts, and in the future, he published the same posts. I can't find this user right now. It did not arouse suspicion of plagiarism until one day someone noticed that the same post had been written several months ago. Sometimes it is better to show such users, perhaps they can also participate dishonestly in the forum. Smiley
I deleted my old post history as there were a lot of junk bounty reports. The mistakes of youth sometimes make it better to clean up after yourself.
Everyday in the forum we hear different stories of junky acts in the forum and this one sounds so absurd to me. I am trying to understand how stressful this will be for anyone to do. I mean does he delete the posts and paste them in notepad and later on be pasting them in the forum.

This idea doesn't follow. I mean this fellow cannot join a flowing conversation because something written months ago might not be relevant for current discussion. If I should ask, what happened to his brain. After making the first post, was the user's brain blocked from producing more posts?
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The only reason for which someone wants to delete their post history is to cover their stupid mistakes, wants privacy etc though that's not possible due to some of the archival services.

I think you are right. A user may have made some multiple mistakes several times which may be caused by the user being new to the forum, typographical error, wrong information, wrong date etc and once the user is able to get the knowledge of the past mistakes he or she has made in the past that person can decide to delete it but deleting a post doesn't really mean the information is out completely as you earlier said the post can be found in the archival services but looking at the information contained in the post of the op, I think there is more to some users just deleting their posts than what we are thinking about.
You guys are definitely right, I mean like i stated in the op, for us who are not in the culprits shoe, we can only imagine a lot of different reasons why a user might decide to delete some of their posts, but in all of those imaginations, i am very sorry to say that a user choosing to delete some of their posts simply because of some sort of mistakes they made when they were newbies is the lamest of all, like i said before, I am sorry for seeing it this way but its just my opinion.

Yeah, Not every user looks at the forum's achieves sure thing, I myself probably have never looked there, so if you delete some of your posts for whatever reason, not everyone will call it to mind to look at the forum achieves to find out, this simply means that many will never find out.
And again coming back to mistakes made when the user was a newbie, I myself was for a very long time a bounty hunter before I even understood that there was more to this forum than just bounty hunting, I probably have made some mistakes as a newbie and bounty hunter, if no body ever asked me about those mistakes, even the managers of the different signature campaigns I've been a participant in never asked me before accepting me, or rejecting me with a note that my past mistakes is the reason why i was rejected, if none of this ever happened, what credibility or reputation does deleting this past posts add to me now as a user of this forum?
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I know of two or three accounts that have engaged in this act of deleting their own previous post, I've thought about why they do this and nothing else comes to mind except that which I've expressed above, i am not going to mention their usernames since this thread is not about them, but me personally asking if this is an ideal thing to do, i know there is no rule restricting users from deleting their previous posts when they feel like it, but I don't know why I feel doing such is a cheating on other honest forum members, as well as campaign managers who might believe you to be a quality poster based on your low posts count and merit earned, not knowing that you are just an average poster like most users of the forum, that deleting previous post is what has kept your post counts down..

What do you guys think or make of this?, its an honest enquiry please..
I totally understand your confusion here. But the selection method and criteria of many managers is still a myth to me. Because i am a person who have spent most of the time in bounties. And you can check i made more than 600+ posts in bounties making report, POA etc. Such posts are spam or not that i don't know about. But, when i started to participate in discussion i started to rank.

And when i became full members i was as happy as when i got my first merit. (Which according to my mindset was not free) but when i got one i came to know that merits are free and you can also give them to others. SO, is started to grow as my words are good to others (proof is they are giving me merits means appreciating my words). Overall, is, i when applied for Signature campaigns. i was rejected by many campaign managers. But one day i got accepted in Yomix signature campaign by Royse777. I was fully in confusion at that time after getting so much rejection and become to think that my profile is total waste as i made many posts which have no contribution to the forum and i also think to delete them but i cannot do that. Well, when i got accepted by royse777 i was relaxed to know that.

There is no such thing that you have made so many spammy posts before. That's in past, if you come to know that post quality is important and started to make some quality posts then managers might consider you. But still, there selection method is still myth to me. Because there are plenty of things they might observe before selecting one member. And of course they do not only rely on tools. As recently i made a mistake by using tools and manager was at right as she did it manually.
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Hi everyone..

So some how, i discovered that there are some forum members who are periodically deleting tens of hundreds of their previous posts/comments, supposedly for no other reason other than to keep their post count low, probably to match the number of merits they have earned, or keep their post count at a little bit higher average, what ever their main motive for doing this is, I don't know specifically, but my guess is that, they may think or consider it that other forum users, or maybe campaign managers, may consider them spammers if they have a lot of posts, maybe in the tens of thousands and not many merits earned to back that number of posts up, this is true ?

I know of two or three accounts that have engaged in this act of deleting their own previous post, I've thought about why they do this and nothing else comes to mind except that which I've expressed above, i am not going to mention their usernames since this thread is not about them, but me personally asking if this is an ideal thing to do, i know there is no rule restricting users from deleting their previous posts when they feel like it, but I don't know why I feel doing such is a cheating on other honest forum members, as well as campaign managers who might believe you to be a quality poster based on your low posts count and merit earned, not knowing that you are just an average poster like most users of the forum, that deleting previous post is what has kept your post counts down..

What do you guys think or make of this?, its an honest enquiry please..

For some sections, it is not even allowed to delete the posts. Still if the bounty manager wants to check the deleted posts, it is again possible. Even you can check it.
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3. former spammer trying to make the account look better to join a sig campaign


Now, I am curious regarding to what OP said on the main post


I don't know specifically, but my guess is that, they may think or consider it that other forum users, or maybe campaign managers, may consider them spammers if they have a lot of posts, maybe in the tens of thousands and not many merits earned to back that number of posts up, this is true ?


From a campaign manager point of view do you (Yahoo) take post to merit ratio as one of consideration to accept a member into your campaign. I mean what if the person recently make a better posts and got many merits recently, but their previous 500+ posts rarely get merit (ignoring whether they make good or bad post, they just rarely get any merit)
Merit to post ratio doesn't matter to me. People can buy merits from what I've seen other users say. Only 1 or 2 managers even cares about merits and they probably could find quality posters just as easily by not having the merit requirement.

If you are a quality poster and lack merits to get into a campaign, maybe you are posting in the wrong board. Stay out of all the altcoin boards, those will get you nowhere. I'm not even sure why managers count posts in those boards. Try engaging in discussions without repeating the 5 replies before you as well.
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Was a story, the user deleted his old posts, and in the future, he published the same posts. I can't find this user right now. It did not arouse suspicion of plagiarism until one day someone noticed that the same post had been written several months ago. Sometimes it is better to show such users, perhaps they can also participate dishonestly in the forum. Smiley
I deleted my old post history as there were a lot of junk bounty reports. The mistakes of youth sometimes make it better to clean up after yourself.
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What do you guys think or make of this?, its an honest enquiry please..

all your assumptions are probably right. everyone may have their own motives. but for accounts that have been inactive for a long time, then woke up and deleted several posts that might be related to bounty campaigns or address information and social media accounts. I am more inclined that there is a possibility that the account will be sold or the account has changed hands. especially if there is a history of password changes, it will strengthen.
but still, each such case must have a different motive. there wouldn't be many people who cared about people deleting their own posts.
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If someone initially thinks their post quality is lower, there is nothing wrong with deleting old posts. Most people make some mistakes in their newbie days. If someone wants to fix the mistakes they made, they are welcome. But there might be some other reasons that Yahoo already mentioned. Even though someone deleted their old posts, those are already archived.

About signature campaigns, I don't think this could be because someone wants to decrease their post count. I don't think post count influences getting hired in a campaign. Most campaign managers look at earned merits and posting habits in the last 120 days.
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Deleting a lot of old posts can result in a decline in activity and eventually loss the rank. If those users are thinking such useless efforts would help them in securing a position on a signature campaign then they are mistaken. The criteria on how BM decides a candidate is suitable for a signature campaign can be known by reading the Rules. Merits, posting behavior, and active members are three common checks. Different BMs have different ways of selecting a candidate as in the end the managers only want the business to benefit. That is why high paying campaigns have members with high merits and a large number of posts that are not meant to spam boards.
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Call me old-fashioned, but I'd like to judge people by their actual posts, instead of only Merit earned.
I know managers will use it is their filter tool after that they will look at latest posts to assess post quality. My post is not clear about it but I have a same old-fashioned as you about post quality and post quality checking.
It is to see your post quality is maintaining at high quality or drop last for months. Deleting your old posts can not help you to pass through the manager checking.

I was a campaign manager, I wouldn't hire anyone because of activity - merit ratio. I also do not find it bad if people begin to delete their old posts but I will never do so because I value the old posts which represents my early days in the forum. Even if there were mistakes, I will take them as beginners mistakes and not delete them.
Activity - merit ratio, post - merit ratio can not guarantee post quality. Recent received merit can not guarantee recent post quality because a poster can receive merit with posts made months ago.
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What do you guys think or make of this?

I know several users that are deleting their posts after a certain period of time for privacy reasons. I guess, most of them know that their posts are also tracked via tools like Ninjastic or BPIP, but they don't want the posts to be found directly via Bitcointalk.

I think that is a fair concern. Not everyone wants their posts to be found via Google at first glance even years later.

I do not believe that the post/merit ratio is the decisive point here.
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