Topic: Deleting Several Previous Posts/Comments To Reduce Post Count... - page 2. (Read 460 times)

From own way of analyzing this deletion of post is that such person weren't doing well at the beginning stage or maybe would want to keep their profile clean as you said, then when I think deeply such account could either be bought account and wanting to free up some cheap post made by the original owner or the second users before getting to the final user who is then currently controlling the account.
From my observation deleting of post should be something that is not meant to cause any harm but they should be able to leave those post to reflect back to their early age if there would be need for that or using it to sight references for the newbies whenever they becomes too desperate about some specific issues.

Like then a thread I created and was asking question about how to increase my post quality some few users redirected me to their profile to see how they all started before I would want to post like them, sincerely speaking this has to draw my attention to reconsidered myself and take a bold step to start making quality post. Although to my self I might feels I have started making quality post but, only higher members that could be able to speak and get my profile reviewed if actually I have increased in my post quality or not.

Then lastly, talking about manager merging their merits with their post count to consider them as quality posters. See mate, from what I have seen so far majority of manager's doesn't care about post quality rather what they considered is the amount of merits earned so far within 120 days thereabout. Only few that doesn't count merits why some thread I scanned through here stated it that they must be earning at least 1 merits to their stay in the campaign, this made me to think that merits is what they look after and not post quality.

If not merits why then you would opened some campaign thread and see hundreds of applicants but only those with higher merits counts are being accepted, well I have no personal issues with this but, sometimes don't you think it would make those applicants feels more bad or is there no other way to evaluate users by either first come, first served so that they won't feel biased or having to think their merits is limiting them?

I can only encourage spammers to delete their own posts I've even considered doing it myself, especially on my Mobile account, but I decided I like the posts anyway. Even if they're short, it adds historical context (and it's far too much work to go over all my posts again).

Now I'm curious which accounts you're talking about. It's easier to see the context if you show the accounts.

Call me old-fashioned, but I'd like to judge people by their actual posts, instead of only Merit earned. If I'd manage a campaign, I'd only use the Merit count to quickly get rid of the obvious cases. So no Merit means no entry, but some Merit still means manual scrutiny.

I was a campaign manager, I wouldn't hire anyone because of activity - merit ratio. I also do not find it bad if people begin to delete their old posts but I will never do so because I value the old posts which represents my early days in the forum. Even if there were mistakes, I will take them as beginners mistakes and not delete them.

Again, if I was to be a campaign manager I will hire someone with higher post history for exposure than someone with a lesser post count. It is upto every individual what they want to do with their account. The forum is open for you to do anything in as much as you are not cheating.

I'm glad it's AFAIK on your part, but the answer is yes, not no. You can't certainly know what an account manager is using for their selection, and what they use to select in this campaign might not be the same as what they will use to select in another campaign. This applies to the same account manager, and if you carefully study their psychology of selection, you would know that it's not often favouring the ones with too many activities to lower merits ratio, except in a few cases they might want to consider more posting.

This is by no doubt one of the reasons some people would love to delete some of their posts but there are more.

This is illogical! You raised the alarm and if the evidence is needed you must provide it. You intrude into their profile for reasons best known to you while also you are aware that whatever they choose to do with their account is none of your business. Just like our other social media platforms, we delete posts/images we no longer find interesting and get rid of them with or without reason and the same is applicable here. Moreover, deleted posts here can be obtained on the ninja site in case it is evidence against them they're trying to get rid of.

If they're doing it maybe for the reason stated in your original post, then it will affect their rank as well since ranks work in hand with activity and I don't think anyone who is after the signature campaign (since you mentioned the campaign manager in your post) will prefer to have less activity with less rank since the higher the rank the higher the payment. You deserve an accolade for the research after all.

I've ever come to this conclusion. After a while I wondered if maybe those people have buried "past sins" while there are some archival tools that can record the reality and most of the influential managers probably use those tools to help their management activities.

I think there's only a small chance of someone wanting to do it, unless they hope to be involved in a drama one day.

I think there are only few members who do that and that's their right so no one can stop them from doing that. I don't think that deleting one's posts and making post to merit ratio higher would give someone edge over others when it comes to signature campaigns. A campaign manager often tries to select those members in his/her campaign that can write well constructed content which can help a campaign to get more attention of the forum users. For example a user having 1000+ merits having only 700 posts which are well constructed while another user having 1000+ merits having more than 15k+ unconstructed posts. In this case the one with 1000+ merits and 700 posts would get high priority to be accepted in a campaign than the one with 15k+ unconstructed posts.

The mangers often look for those participants that can be valuable for a campaign, and they try to avoid the fact that how many merits they have earned unless the funder of the campaign demands the members with higher merits only. I don't think that a campaign manager cares a lot about number of posts of a user when selecting him/her in a campaign because most of the campaign managers want those users who can produce good quality posts during the running time of a campaign, and there isn't any issue with their previous posts because most of the previous posts can be considered dead if they aren't in a active thread anymore.

That's my own opinion, however the managers might consider other factors as well. I'm quite sure that each manager who wants to run a successful campaign may give priority to those posters who try to make well constructed posts that can help solve the issues of the other users. And, yes if a user who makes constructed posts can post more than the requirements of the campaign then that's a plus point, and most of the campaign managers appreciate such users with bonuses.

I think you are right. A user may have made some multiple mistakes several times which may be caused by the user being new to the forum, typographical error, wrong information, wrong date etc and once the user is able to get the knowledge of the past mistakes he or she has made in the past that person can decide to delete it but deleting a post doesn't really mean the information is out completely as you earlier said the post can be found in the archival services but looking at the information contained in the post of the op, I think there is more to some users just deleting their posts than what we are thinking about.

Some people want to show that they are better with something like a higher merit ratio per post which should not be appreciated but since it has no bad effect on the forum then it's okay to clean up their own mess without loading the work for mods.

I am interested in knowing what the community thinks about it, I feel a pool about this will tell about it exactly.

Everyone has different reasons for deleting posts, but if I can recall correctly, I don't think I have done that before. A few of my posts have been deleted in the past by moderators, either because they were off-topic or because the thread was entirely deleted.
 
I happened to have a F2F conversations someone from my local and something of this nature was discussed, their were plenty of points given which I could only lay my hands on few; which is, most people deleted their post not because they are aiming to equal it with their number of merit or number of activities, but few do that base on the kind of post they have made in the past, where they have to revisit those threads where the comments are shared and realized it was all off-topic, most times wrong information passed, while some being filled with bounty authentication post, but when they have familiarize them self well with the forum the happen to wipe those post which makes them appear real stupid.
 
But to me, if I ever have to delete some of my posts today, the reasons will be:
If there has been any project or site that I have recommended to others in a comment that later turns out to be a scam, if I am aware of such, I will definitely wipe it out so as not to mislead the public.

There are many reasons why people delete their post, I was asked to clean my post history during my transition stage (from a spammer to a quality poster) and I deleted closed to 500 posts, I don't know what the reasons are for those you observed deleting their posts but we can't just assumed they're trying to cheat the system and also there's nothing they gain from campaign campaign managers when they delete their post. It doesn't increase their merit or post quality so I don't see why this is cause for concern. They're actuator doing the forum a good thing because it's less work for moderators to start deleting their posts when they get reported.

When they delete their posts it equals to less work for spam busters so they're actually doing the forum more help than harm but as they're deleting, their next posts should have better qualities. You should be less concerned about this as managers don't look at  how many posts you have instead they look at the quality of your posts, and to some extend having high quality number of posts could get you into campaign when your merits isn't high as others. Managers will prefer posters that can make more posts than those making just the minimum needed to be paid weekly.  More post means more promotion but obviously they have to be quality posts.

I think that deleting posts as well as writing them is a personal matter of each member, the same as what they will do with their merits or how active they will be on the forum. I understand that the OP has some "concerns" about how this can affect the overall impression when it comes to signature campaigns, but in the last 4-5 years (I'm not sure, maybe more) all posts are saved and exist regardless of whether someone deleted them on the forum (owner or moderator). I believe that no manager digs so deep into the past when deciding who to choose to participate in his campaign.

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I remember one case in which a member deleted thousands of posts, and it seems to me that this is one of the most extreme cases of deleting posts on the forum.

This member has weird stats.

Now, I am curious regarding to what OP said on the main post


From a campaign manager point of view do you (Yahoo) take post to merit ratio as one of consideration to accept a member into your campaign. I mean what if the person recently make a better posts and got many merits recently, but their previous 500+ posts rarely get merit (ignoring whether they make good or bad post, they just rarely get any merit)

I did notice some people getting their post count lower, but I didn't overthink it. I encountered it when I read many posts referencing a specific position, and it bounced back toward the topic, but the particular reference was gone. After that, I noticed some of the referenced posts the user had were also gone. It's probably the manager's discretion to see or consider that.

Making it look like you have more constructive posts would make you a good forum member and contributor.

I'm not going to talk about the campaign manager aspect since I have no idea on how they (the campaign managers ) select those that will participate in any campaign that's being managed by them.

If you take a good look at the forum, I see it as a historical place where you have several topics, discussion on different subject matter and sometimes when a newbie comes to the forum they are always advised to go through previous threads to learn more om certain issues or topics, but if you as a forum member that's supposed to contribute to the already existing knowledge or opinion in the forum decides that you don't what to instead you want to delete your posts (that could have helped a newbie or someone in search of such knowledge in the future) just so that your account stats can look cool and admirable, you're not only cheating yourself but also the potential of the forum. Sometimes we go back to our account post history just keep scanning through them to see the growth that we have been able to achieve since the time we came to the forum.

Another reason could be that they are deleting some posts they feel are spam maybe during their early days or due to the amount of knowledge they had during the time they made that post.

But if they are doing it to cheat their way into a campaign and you're very sure of it, then you can simply notify the campaign manager of it and if they find it unethical they can remove them from their campaign but if they're cool with it then we all move on with it. Just my 2 cents.

It is possible that people grow over time and their post quality might improve as a result of their growing as a person/forum user. I say it's possible, but obviously there are other scenarios that might be in play here.

1. Account sold. New owner trying to cover up old posts maybe because old owner was a regular poster in Nigeria local, new owner Indonesia or whatever different locals.

2. account hacked, and hacker is trying to clean up the account for resale

3. former spammer trying to make the account look better to join a sig campaign

I'm sure there may be other reasons, but these are what come to my mind.

That's really insane if truly some users were found in this kind of mess, which could also indicate many things such a user should be suspected of aside the reason you gave here from your perspective, what i see that might have led to this kind of action or when a user is trying to engage on phishy or dirty acts personal to him and use that to serve as cover for such nasty behavior, maybe when the user bought an account which posting styles strongly indicate a change of hands or the user has been spamming the account with useless posts and want to be serious about it, but either of the ways, it's a bad idea to delete post one has already made over time except for suspecting reasons from any user.


Best known to them any of the reasons which i think none is valid enough for taking such behavior, i cant build a profile with my deliberate consciousness and think about deleting them, there's no reason for any justification on that for me, if i see a user that does such, I'd rather be careful and avoid such.

To be honest, I don't think that they are fooling anyone other than themselves if they think by deleting posts and having better merit/post ratio will get them into better paid signature campaigns. Likewise, any manager that can get fooled by that is not a good manager at all and is not checking post history properly.

Another reason why some members might do that is because they could be embarassed by their early posts when they just joined the forum but its hard to say without you sharing the names of those members wo we can see type of posts they were deleting.

I think it's okay to delete some posts that you deem to be of low quality or bad quality - you and anyone can delete them as long as your post is still deletable and doesn't violate anything. But what's the point of deleting if any of us can easily find the post history via the magic tools ninjastic.space and loyce.club?

If the deleted post was their way of destroying evidence - then surely some of us have the right to suspect it. But so far I haven't thought about much - ignore it as long as it's not something too important to take up much of your attention.

A moderator cant possibly delete over 200 posts from one user in one week, that's not possible even if the user is posting shit, he will surely get a temp ban even before the 20th post is deleted, so surely, what i am seeing here is not any user reporting another user's post and mod deleting them, its the owner of the account him or her self deleting his or her posts.

I understand the urge bud, I feel like posting the account name(s) too, if not for anything, to prove that what I am asking about is not just an idea born out of my own mind, but like I noted, I sincerely don't want to get anybody involved in this, what they are doing is not a crime and is not against the forum rules, so i honestly dont want to bother them, and more importantly, i dont want anybody seeing me as an enemy, so, lets just leave it the way it is.

You are free to do your research and find out who and who yourself.