Democracy or Dictator ship ? - page 9.

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

Democracy is for the people and for each government it should be for the peoplee. Dictatorship has fooled the people into believing that giving sipreme power into one people can give success or progress into one country. Democracy is giving the power to the people to decide on who holds the power

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My point is to live in a world of democracy and peace. no war has occurred. no robbery, exploitation. Human beings live in equality without being subjected to monopoly pressure. If there is dictatorship, human society will not develop.

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

Democratic is great, you get to enjoy your freedom, express what’s in your mind and do what you want. However, too much freedom is also bad. There are time where dictator is somehow good for some countries.

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It depends on the population of a country. According to human nature, the lord imposed on them rulers! Democracy or monarchy is not a factor, Whether the ruler is honest or not is the big thing for for ordinary people.

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

I Think that the government should always be for the people. it should be thAT the power rests on the public that put the people on power there. it is also important to notE that a public that feels it is oprrssd or being conrrenered is not a country of progress but a country of slaves.

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Quote from: greenbitsgm on October 16, 2017, 05:01:49 PM

Democracy for me,in a democratic form of government we have freedom,we have the right to choose our leader who will lead us by means of election,we have freedom of speech to voice out our grievances and concern,we can go anywhere we wanted, no restrictions no limit, but it has flaws which sometimes hinders the progress of a country.On the other hand....in a dictatorship form of government it's the opposite,freedoms you enjoy is suppress,there is restriction and limitations...but the good side if the dictator is really focus on making the country rich and progressive by all means it will done...

Majority rules. Minority is in slavery to the dictates of the majority. Notice the word "dictates." Democracy is a dictatorship.

Rather, freedom for all in every way. Only if there is harm or damage should the guilty party pay.

In the current democracy, Monsanto harms many people, but is allowed by the majority who doesn't understand the harm, but allows them to go on harming.

Use the 6th, 7th, 9th, and 10th Amendments to make "damgers" and "harmers" pay. You are harmed even when there is real threat of harm.

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Democracy for me,in a democratic form of government we have freedom,we have the right to choose our leader who will lead us by means of election,we have freedom of speech to voice out our grievances and concern,we can go anywhere we wanted, no restrictions no limit, but it has flaws which sometimes hinders the progress of a country.On the other hand....in a dictatorship form of government it's the opposite,freedoms you enjoy is suppress,there is restriction and limitations...but the good side if the dictator is really focus on making the country rich and progressive by all means it will done...

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Quote from: Mometaskers on October 16, 2017, 02:51:26 PM

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Quote from: Mometaskers on October 15, 2017, 10:19:22 AM

Some people root for benevolent dictatorship but even that can go wrong if the successor is a dipstick. It seems one party countries with some level of political participation works OK enough (example, Singapore). Still, it is best if people are free to express themselves (with reasonable limits of course).

Quote from: BADecker on October 15, 2017, 02:39:23 AM

Democracy is simply dictatorship by the majority. Forget both, democracy, and formal dictatorship. Go for freedom.

The only freedom that is not allowed is to harm someone, or damage his property.

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So basically anarchy? What type of anarchy though? There seem to be several.

Not necessarily anarchy.

The U.S. of America was not set up as a dictatorship or a democracy. It was set up as a self-government of the people.

Notice the 6th, 7th, 9th and 10th Amendments. Jury trial can be used to challenge any and every law of Government if used properly - 6th and 7th. The people and the States can overrule every law set up by the Federal, and the people can overrule every law set up by the States - 9th and 10th - and individually if they go through the jury (6th and 7th).

In other words, there is no secession needed if people want to put down the Federal or State governments. Why don't people do this? Because they say that they are CITIZENS. If they were not CITIZENS, they could stand as [wo]men and overrule anything and everything in Government, right down to destroying it.

Let me say it another way. Right now, if any foreigners want, all they have to do is learn how to avail themselves of the courts in [wo]man-fashion, and they could virtually take down the whole USA. They won't do this because they barely understand it. After all, We the People barely understand it.

This is built right into foundational law in the USA.

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I wonder how the US would look like that. How large can the resulting "government" become?

Well, looks like the State as we know it today wouldn't be going away any time soon. I doubt the governments would allow that to easily happen.

The U.S. bureaucracy would shrink. There would be no income taxes; taxes would exist on import/export. The people would become strong in their self-armament. Criminals and terrorists would be too afraid to mess with Americans. Yet other nations would fear what America could do if her people decided to go against them. Prosperity would abound among Americans. The rest of the world would seek to trade with America, vying for her affections.

It's built into the Constitution and the Amendments to work like this. The only reason that it doesn't is that Americans have been distracted by all the political BS for too long. Once they wake up to their individual power as men and women, the U.S. bureaucracy will come down.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 15, 2017, 03:33:51 PM

Quote from: Mometaskers on October 15, 2017, 10:19:22 AM

Some people root for benevolent dictatorship but even that can go wrong if the successor is a dipstick. It seems one party countries with some level of political participation works OK enough (example, Singapore). Still, it is best if people are free to express themselves (with reasonable limits of course).

Quote from: BADecker on October 15, 2017, 02:39:23 AM

Democracy is simply dictatorship by the majority. Forget both, democracy, and formal dictatorship. Go for freedom.

The only freedom that is not allowed is to harm someone, or damage his property.

Cool

So basically anarchy? What type of anarchy though? There seem to be several.

Not necessarily anarchy.

The U.S. of America was not set up as a dictatorship or a democracy. It was set up as a self-government of the people.

Notice the 6th, 7th, 9th and 10th Amendments. Jury trial can be used to challenge any and every law of Government if used properly - 6th and 7th. The people and the States can overrule every law set up by the Federal, and the people can overrule every law set up by the States - 9th and 10th - and individually if they go through the jury (6th and 7th).

In other words, there is no secession needed if people want to put down the Federal or State governments. Why don't people do this? Because they say that they are CITIZENS. If they were not CITIZENS, they could stand as [wo]men and overrule anything and everything in Government, right down to destroying it.

Let me say it another way. Right now, if any foreigners want, all they have to do is learn how to avail themselves of the courts in [wo]man-fashion, and they could virtually take down the whole USA. They won't do this because they barely understand it. After all, We the People barely understand it.

This is built right into foundational law in the USA.

Cool

I wonder how the US would look like that. How large can the resulting "government" become?

Well, looks like the State as we know it today wouldn't be going away any time soon. I doubt the governments would allow that to easily happen.

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Sainsbury's boss David Tyler warns a 'no deal' Brexit would raise the ...
The Times-14 Oct 2017
Families will have to pay more for their weekly shop if Britain leaves the EU without a trade deal, the chairman of Sainsbury's has warned.

Who shops at Sainsbury's way to expensive ..
Your worried because other new up and coming shops are doing better than you Cheesy

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I wouldn't walk in that shop always been expensive ..

BYE BYE ..
Your shops finished if you don't get with the program Wink

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Oh i am so excited to leave the EU ..
Like getting a new job Grin

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The UK will always do good we are to good at thinking and are very smart people..

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The UK Labour party is becoming a dictatorship have no idea what democracy means..

I was die hard labour never ever again a disgrace ..

John Martin McDonnell is a British Labour Party politician ..

OFF WITH HIS HEAD Angry

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What an IDIOT..

Watch him he is a snake don't like him one bit..
You labour will not win the next election because your LIARS and we already got lairs in so what's the point in changing..

Remember if we stay in the EU and labour win businesses will run anyways Cheesy

TAX to death means businesses will run..

So we will be paying billions to the EU and borrowing billions putting our future children even in worse debt than ever before ..

Plus LABOUR lied about letting the young STUDENTS off with the university DEBT Angry

And that's the only reason why labour got more votes ..

But labour seem to think it's because the young came out to vote over the EU
NO THEY NEVER ..

FREE UNIVERSITY was the reason ..
And FREE UNIVERSITY should be free to all children of our planet ..

knowledge should be free ..

John Martin McDonnell this guy is looking after his own interest TRUST ME..A RAT..

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

I agree with your thoughts, I also believe that every kind of leadership had its flaws and benefits. Dictatorship has more improvement because the government can do whatever they want without others permission but the bad thing about dictatorship is we have limited freedom

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

Most people will choose Democratic, even I myself. But the progress of a country under dictatorship is clearly visible. Democratic country allows people to have their own freedom to do what they please but the crime cases are evidently high. Dictatorship only requires countrymen/statemen to follow a certain leader.

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

I prefer democracy, the people has a lot of freedom,of speech,to choose or to vote.and also has the right to cast out the one who runs the country who is not running well the government,be it local.

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

It's about the motive of the ruler.
And Dictatorship or democracy is just a disguise.
No one can run a country without popular support from its citizens.
The parliamentary democratic system is so corrupt that no good person can rise to the top.

Democracy,where as the people are given the right to vote for the person they believe who are intelligent enough to run the government,or local elections.

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

People choose their own managerial system. Therefore some countries have dictator and some of them doesn't. Lots of goverments use democracy for their own benefits. Then it becomes a kind of dictatorship. They don't use democracy as purpose. They use it as a tool. Therefore confidence of governments decreases.

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Quote from: Mometaskers on October 15, 2017, 10:19:22 AM

Some people root for benevolent dictatorship but even that can go wrong if the successor is a dipstick. It seems one party countries with some level of political participation works OK enough (example, Singapore). Still, it is best if people are free to express themselves (with reasonable limits of course).

Quote from: BADecker on October 15, 2017, 02:39:23 AM

Democracy is simply dictatorship by the majority. Forget both, democracy, and formal dictatorship. Go for freedom.

The only freedom that is not allowed is to harm someone, or damage his property.

Cool

So basically anarchy? What type of anarchy though? There seem to be several.

Not necessarily anarchy.

The U.S. of America was not set up as a dictatorship or a democracy. It was set up as a self-government of the people.

Notice the 6th, 7th, 9th and 10th Amendments. Jury trial can be used to challenge any and every law of Government if used properly - 6th and 7th. The people and the States can overrule every law set up by the Federal, and the people can overrule every law set up by the States - 9th and 10th - and individually if they go through the jury (6th and 7th).

In other words, there is no secession needed if people want to put down the Federal or State governments. Why don't people do this? Because they say that they are CITIZENS. If they were not CITIZENS, they could stand as [wo]men and overrule anything and everything in Government, right down to destroying it.

Let me say it another way. Right now, if any foreigners want, all they have to do is learn how to avail themselves of the courts in [wo]man-fashion, and they could virtually take down the whole USA. They won't do this because they barely understand it. After all, We the People barely understand it.

This is built right into foundational law in the USA.

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

I think democracy is still the best type of government. Even though it does not really promise maximum development, it sure gives the people power to choose their leaders and even oust whoever they think is abusive of power. Having one leader doesn't really give us much freedom and misrule is most likely to happen. When it does, the people can't do anything about it.

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

It depends of the historical moment. I mean if we are in peace then absolutely democracy, no doubt about it, but if we are in a military conflict then the things would go better with dictators. For example Winston Churchill wouldn't have been a good prim minister if it wouldn't have been the WW2. At that moment he was the perfect choice.

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Quote from: mwaqar17 on October 14, 2017, 08:38:11 AM

If we look at the history some countries got maximum development in Dictator ship while some got maximum development in democratic government. Every system has it's own flaws and benefits. What do you like ? if we talk about the welfare of general people.

I believe democracy is a superior level of government. Dictatorship never ends well for the people even if sometimes it seems good in the beginning.

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