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legendary
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As far as I know, this campaign was proposed and carried out by a group of Democrats but will not involve Harris, she does not appear to be directly involved in this launching campaign. This is a big problem for the campaign and it will be difficult to attract voters without Harris on board.
According to the announcement that they will hold a discussion next Wednesday, we will wait to see if Harris will appear and declare his support for cryptocurrency like Trump did.

It seems like the Democratic Party is not too interested in cryptocurrency, what they are doing is copying the Republican Party because they fear the votes from the crypto community will go to Trump. Both are just leveraging cryptocurrencies and bitcoin for their own benefit, but this also shows that they are gradually appreciating the cryptocurrency industry and its implications.
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they only care about their own interests, no one really cares about bitcoin, so either kamala or trump are just using their political promises to win themselves and their party. but i am more inclined to see that the development of bitcoin will be better if it is in the hands of the republic and trump, even though both are the same, but trump seems to show his sincerity for bitcoin and in his previous administration he was also not too hard on bitcoin; even though he didn't care much about bitcoin before, he is still a good candidate.
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Not sure that crypto is really important topic for masses to change anything in election

It's not: hardly any Americans care about Bitcoin either way, and the ones who do would never prioritize things like abortion over some laws about Bitcoin.

But for politicians, it's all about the campaign donations. A few billionaire Bitcoin whales are dumping giant amounts of money into this election--so far mostly to Republicans. Democrats want in on the action.

And keep in mind that these donors aren't giving money directly to candidates, they are giving money to PACs, and those PACs are buying ads that favor their favored candidates.

But here's the thing: these ads have nothing to do with Bitcoin. Nobody watching these ads would have any idea that it was Bitcoin advocacy that was behind it. The ads just contain bad things about their opponent or good things about their candidate in general. That tells you all you need to know about what these donors think of how much Americans care about Bitcoin.



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Not sure that crypto is really important topic for masses to change anything in election
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Does anyone think Biden had any effect on the value of Bitcoin? Or that Trump, or any president, will influence Bitcoin to go to a new 500%


Yes: the group of billionaire Bitcoin whales who have given Trump more money than any other industry has, and a bunch of people here on bitcointalk.org.

Bitcoin will do just fine under Harris, as it has done under Biden. There is a no reason to take a chance on the erratic, senile, deranged Trump who promises to upend the US economy by deporting 5% of our workers and starting a massive new police state to stop the millions of abortions that occur in the US every year.

Under Biden, Bitcoin was on a bull run and so obviously, regardless of who are going to it that time, we will see a big spike in the price. Not sure how you say that Bitcoin will be fine under the Harris, when in 2022 [...]


They wanted to bring an end to the disorganized regulations in favor of more organized regulations. Why is that a bad thing? That's probably part of the reason Bitcoin did so well under Biden.

And Bitcoin, being an asset worth over a trillion dollars--mostly owned by Americans--is in fact an issue of national security. As we discussed in another thread here, any major nation-state e.g. Russia or China or Iran could attack Bitcoin by going after the hash rate through force or clandestine means--and it wouldn't be hard to attack the network and make Americans lose billions. So it's quite proper for the US to defend against attacks like this.

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Does anyone think Biden had any effect on the value of Bitcoin? Or that Trump, or any president, will influence Bitcoin to go to a new 500%


Yes: the group of billionaire Bitcoin whales who have given Trump more money than any other industry has, and a bunch of people here on bitcointalk.org.

Bitcoin will do just fine under Harris, as it has done under Biden. There is a no reason to take a chance on the erratic, senile, deranged Trump who promises to upend the US economy by deporting 5% of our workers and starting a massive new police state to stop the millions of abortions that occur in the US every year.

Under Biden, Bitcoin was on a bull run and so obviously, regardless of who are going to it that time, we will see a big spike in the price. Not sure how you say that Bitcoin will be fine under the Harris, when in 2022,

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The White House wants to bring order to the ‘haphazard approach’ that is currently being employed by regulators to Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

The White House wants to set out a cohesive set of policies to regulate Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies as currently legislation and its enforcement are scattered across sectors and agencies, according to multiple reports.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/biden-administration-to-regulate-bitcoin-as-a-matter-of-national-security:-report

And you can also argue that when Trump peak at the Bitcoin Conference, the price peak at $70,000.
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Does anyone think Biden had any effect on the value of Bitcoin? Or that Trump, or any president, will influence Bitcoin to go to a new 500%


Yes: the group of billionaire Bitcoin whales who have given Trump more money than any other industry has, and a bunch of people here on bitcointalk.org.

Bitcoin will do just fine under Harris, as it has done under Biden. There is a no reason to take a chance on the erratic, senile, deranged Trump who promises to upend the US economy by deporting 5% of our workers and starting a massive new police state to stop the millions of abortions that occur in the US every year.

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Oh no, another new thread about Trump  Sad

Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. When you hear that Biden (and now Harris) are "anti-Bitcoin", you are hearing campaign rhetoric invented by the opposing party. There's no reason to believe Bitcoin will not go up another 500% under Harris, and that the Bitcoin universe will be just fine overall, like it has been in the last four years.
Does anyone think Biden had any effect on the value of Bitcoin? Or that Trump, or any president, will influence Bitcoin to go to a new 500%

I think I already commented on this in another thread.  If you are going to use this argument, it is fair to mention that Bitcoin went up more than 3900% under president Trump and his first term in office.  So, to paraphrase you: There is no objective reason not to support Trump if all you care about is Bitcoin.

Someone could say that Bitcoin went from $0 to $75k during Putin's time, what is that in percentage? Why the limitation to Trump only?
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Hey!! US dude, do you think it is only US making bitcoin to be popular? The way you are emphasizing on this issue is like without US, bitcoin will not be existing again. US is also like other countries that using bitcoin and bitcoin is not like fiat currency that is own by one country and all your assertion on bitcoin rising is false. Biden didn't made bitcoin to hit 500% instead it was individual purchasing power and support of the average investors that made bitcoin to rise up. In bitcoin, only the whales can't use it but it is the combination of the whales and dolphins. Are you also aware that it was the activities of Biden that made this forum to be like this? Op you are campaigning for the wrong way. If you want to campaign for Harris then go to the politics and society board and do the needful and not in the bitcoin board.
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Their history? You mean when... Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden? There's no objective reason to support Trump if all you care about is Bitcoin.

I think I already commented on this in another thread.  If you are going to use this argument, it is fair to mention that Bitcoin went up more than 3900% under president Trump and his first term in office.  So, to paraphrase you: There is no objective reason not to support Trump if all you care about is Bitcoin.
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Kamala showed her true colours by choosing Waltz over Shapiro because she doesn't want to show support for Israel. That's who she really is, a mediocre politician who will say and do what the polls tell her to. The people's pleaser, as long as they vote for her. She does not support bitcoin, I'm sure of that, simply because she surrounds herself with people like Elizabeth Warren and Brad Sherman. All the anti crypto bills in congress last year were written by Democrats and now a Democratic nominee is suddenly trying to get votes of the crypto community? Please...
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So why are they now very vocal about supporting Bitcoin when no one will believe Kamala for that.  Just like their campaign claiming Kamala is Black. If we are to stick to the facts, this is a fact she isn't black.

These are just the same people trying to get votes because it's election time, so they turn to Bitcoin where the voters are already fixed on someone who has been up on the polls since.  People will pick the less evil ones like Trump than Kamala who has been in the party and tried killing Trump.
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Believe me, it does matter. Not only for Bitcoin but for the world, as USA makes me think of strong military and strong economy.


Again, you want Trump to win because you like Trump, not because of Bitcoin. It's perfectly fine to like Trump if that's your opinion, but you don't get to pretend it's based on a factor that you obviously aren't actually considering.

If Harris wins, will you sell all of your Bitcoin? I seriously doubt it. Indeed, if Harris wins I would expect everybody in this forum including the Trump supporters to... suddenly agree with me that Bitcoin will be just fine under Harris as it has been under Biden.

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* For those who only care about Bitcoin, they will welcome this as Bitcoin support becomes bi-partisan and it doesn't matter who gets elected in November.
Believe me, it does matter. Not only for Bitcoin but for the world, as USA makes me think of strong military and strong economy. It would be a shame to see it turn into a socialist state lead from the shadows by people like Sanders or the VP who is known for putting tampons in men's bathrooms. I can already see Kamala meeting with Putin, changing her accent to Eastern EU to look more familiar.
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Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden.
And it has nothing to do with the fact that Biden begun his term in 2021, less than a year after the halving, which is always the year of the bull market for bitcoin?
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The race to the White House is now very interesting. Both parties are now seriously using the crypto industry as a major campaign topic. They now know that the industry is important to their ambition. Donald Trump has already stolen the hearts of a large part of the crypto population due to his glamorous promises. Haris and the Democrats have so much work to do to convince the community that they have a better package for the crypto space. Appointment of some experienced professionals in Harris' advocacy group such as David Plouffe and Gene Sperling is not a bad idea.



SBF was put in prison under Biden, because Democrats believe in the rule of law, even if it means one of their own donors.

Trump, meanwhile, pardoned several felons--one of whom stole hundreds of millions from the people of Florida--in exchange for campaign donations.

The choice Americans will make in November will be between more criminals like SBF being set free by Trump in exchange for donations, or continued law and order (and a safe environment for consumers to invest in) under Harris.

Sam Bankman-Fried is a scammer who intentionally stole people's funds and spent it recklessly. Even the most corrupt judge will not acquit him. However, Ross Ulbricht's punishment is too harsh. I think he deserves a second chance or a lesser punishment.
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Come out of US brother. There is a much larger world outside of US. Looking at your post it feels, US is the only country responsible for the growth of Bitcoin. Bitcoin has grown due to its own potential and not due to the policies of Biden government. Bitcoin was adopted worldwide and not just in US. So stop thanking didn't government help Bitcoin to grow by up to 500%.

But your government is your problem, not mine! Regardless of which party create government in US, Bitcoin will continue to grow. But if US continues the harassment on the crypto users, opportunities will be lost only for US.


Those campaigning for Trump in the Bitcoin universe here and elsewhere must prove why Trump would be better--and they continue to spread the lie that Biden has been bad for Bitcoin, which is not supported by the facts.

I'm all for the US government letting the crypto market continue to thrive, as it has done over the last four years. I love the idea of all of us not caring who is going to be the next president, when it comes to Bitcoin.

But to hear Trump's supporters here tell it, Bitcoin has been outlawed in the US or something. But Bitcoin is legal to hold and trade in the US, we have thousand of brokers operating here, a huge chunk of mining happens in the US, and most Bitcoin investors are in the US.

And now Democrats are getting overtly on the Bitcoin train--and yet Trump's supporters here can't handle that. That tells me that they support Trump, not Bitcoin.

Based on the momentum right now, it would appear that Harris is on track to win in November. If she does, Bitcoin will continue to do what it has been doing, which has been great over the last four years.


It looks like everyone suddenly forgot how ex FTX owner Scam Bankman donated a bunch of money to Biden for his democratic party, and other people did the same.
It's not like it's important what politicians we are talking about, most of them are corrupt, they worship money as their god, and they will never do anything good for Bitcoin just because they receive bitcoin donations.


SBF was put in prison under Biden, because Democrats believe in the rule of law, even if it means one of their own donors.

Trump, meanwhile, pardoned several felons--one of whom stole hundreds of millions from the people of Florida--in exchange for campaign donations.

The choice Americans will make in November will be between more criminals like SBF being set free by Trump in exchange for donations, or continued law and order (and a safe environment for consumers to invest in) under Harris.







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This is getting ridiculous at this point. Bitcoiners should be involved in politics to an extent but giving this level of influence to politicians puts them on a pedestal and psychologically increases the influence they have.

Yes, you are. Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. There is simply no evidence that the Democrats have been "horrible" for crypto.
Went up cause there was a bullrun during his tenure, Bitcoin has gone up over 10,000× before then. And during his tenure there was stricter restrictions on Bitcoin mining and more taxes imposed in addition to other policies.
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It looks like everyone suddenly forgot how ex FTX owner Scam Bankman donated a bunch of money to Biden for his democratic party, and other people did the same.
It's not like it's important what politicians we are talking about, most of them are corrupt, they worship money as their god, and they will never do anything good for Bitcoin just because they receive bitcoin donations.
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Come out of US brother. There is a much larger world outside of US. Looking at your post it feels, US is the only country responsible for the growth of Bitcoin. Bitcoin has grown due to its own potential and not due to the policies of Biden government. Bitcoin was adopted worldwide and not just in US. So stop thanking that Biden government helped Bitcoin to grow by up to 500%.

But your government is your problem, not mine! Regardless of which party create government in US, Bitcoin will continue to grow. But if US continues the harassment on the crypto users, opportunities will be lost only for US.
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Am I incorrect in saying that crypto currency users in US had faced the most horrible time during the democrat rule?


Yes, you are. Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. There is simply no evidence that the Democrats have been "horrible" for crypto.

Don't confuse a few big-business lobbies--who don't have the needs of average Bitcoin consumers in mind--with actual support of Bitcoin. Every big business is going to lobby and spend a lot of money to bribe the government to make their profits a little bigger. That's what we're seeing with a few of these companies supporting Trump with millions of dollars.


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I don't think anyone would believe the democrats when it comes to cryptocurrency! They are just trying to replicate the effort that Donald Trump is putting to get the support of the crypto users. But with their history, I don't think they are going to make any impact.


Their history? You mean when... Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden? There's no objective reason to support Trump if all you care about is Bitcoin.


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