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The only way that Andy Ruiz wins this is by decision and I do not think Wilder will let that happen. Wilder knocks down everyone and Ruiz is smaller then the normal people that go against Wilder.  I think Wilder finds this match up easy and knocks Andy out in 3 or 4 rounds. Then the only next step for Wilder would be against Joshua while Tyson Fury fights Uysk.
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Just to be fair with Andy Ruiz, he is a rank in the Heavyweight division,

#2 by WBC
#3 by IBF
#1 by WBO

Only in WBA that he is not even in the rankings for unknown reason. And on the other hand, Filip Hrgovic and Andy Ruiz was ordered by the IBF to fight for the interim belt. So it's kinda crazy that this body is ordering mandatories and they have a lots of title like the regular belt holder and then the interim, hehehe.

It's only for an interim belt. He can always just refuse it as well. Ruiz will probably take the bigger fight which is Wilder as it obviously comes with a shot at Fury should if he win as well. I don't think this is going to be a good fight for Ruiz. Wilder will destroy him, though I guess if he beat AJ anything is possible but Wilder is far more dangerous than AJ in my opinion. Not sure what's going on with this fight but I'd love to see Wilder against Fury again. He's going to want revenge and I seriously think losing to Fury has changed Wilder.

Yes, he might refused and go with Ruiz for the title eliminator, and maybe there are more money here as compare to fighting the likes of Filip Hrgovic for the interim belt.

Not sure, but maybe Fury would like a 3rd fight with Wilder and then destroy Deontay again. Yes, since his lost, he had to take tune up fights to bring his confident back. But maybe when he faces Fury again for a trilogy, that flashes of the 2nd fight will be at this mind again and the result could be same. That is the thing with Fury, he can beat you with his mind games even before the actual fight and that's what he did against Wilder.
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Just to be fair with Andy Ruiz, he is a rank in the Heavyweight division,

#2 by WBC
#3 by IBF
#1 by WBO

Only in WBA that he is not even in the rankings for unknown reason. And on the other hand, Filip Hrgovic and Andy Ruiz was ordered by the IBF to fight for the interim belt. So it's kinda crazy that this body is ordering mandatories and they have a lots of title like the regular belt holder and then the interim, hehehe.

It's only for an interim belt. He can always just refuse it as well. Ruiz will probably take the bigger fight which is Wilder as it obviously comes with a shot at Fury should if he win as well. I don't think this is going to be a good fight for Ruiz. Wilder will destroy him, though I guess if he beat AJ anything is possible but Wilder is far more dangerous than AJ in my opinion. Not sure what's going on with this fight but I'd love to see Wilder against Fury again. He's going to want revenge and I seriously think losing to Fury has changed Wilder.
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Just to be fair with Andy Ruiz, he is a rank in the Heavyweight division,

#2 by WBC
#3 by IBF
#1 by WBO

Only in WBA that he is not even in the rankings for unknown reason. And on the other hand, Filip Hrgovic and Andy Ruiz was ordered by the IBF to fight for the interim belt. So it's kinda crazy that this body is ordering mandatories and they have a lots of title like the regular belt holder and then the interim, hehehe.

He deserves to have a crack at the title, I thought that his fight with Kingkong Ortiz is the title elimination but it turned out not, of all the World governing boxing bodies I consider the WBC the most prestigious because this is where the lineal champion comes from, and the oldest one too, these governing body should stop giving interim titles it's not a legit title if you are the champion you are a title holder, either they strip it or other fighters fight for it.
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Ruiz is already out ranged, which probably means that anything thrown by Wilder will be at speed, and connect at the right moment. He's shown a decent chin, and good recovery. However, I personally don't think it's a good thing that it has been tested so many times. You do that against Wilder, and you'll be knocked out before you know it.

Fury showed that when you put Wilder on the back foot you'll still eat some big shots, but it's probably better to put him on the back foot, than having him wait until the perfect moment. I can't see Ruiz putting him on the back foot too much, since he doesn't really have the physical presence that Fury has.

Two different fighters, Ruiz is not even a top 5 best heavyweight boxer in the world IMO, so Ruiz does not stand a chance against Wilder who is a power puncher. With this size, I don't see he can do a big counter punch on Wilder if he doesn't know how to box him well, and if he cannot absorb the hard punches of Wilder.

I'm not expecting a lot from Ruiz, but I'm just hoping he'll give a competitive fight so the fight will not end immediately.

Just to be fair with Andy Ruiz, he is a rank in the Heavyweight division,

#2 by WBC
#3 by IBF
#1 by WBO

Only in WBA that he is not even in the rankings for unknown reason. And on the other hand, Filip Hrgovic and Andy Ruiz was ordered by the IBF to fight for the interim belt. So it's kinda crazy that this body is ordering mandatories and they have a lots of title like the regular belt holder and then the interim, hehehe.
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Ruiz is already out ranged, which probably means that anything thrown by Wilder will be at speed, and connect at the right moment. He's shown a decent chin, and good recovery. However, I personally don't think it's a good thing that it has been tested so many times. You do that against Wilder, and you'll be knocked out before you know it.

Fury showed that when you put Wilder on the back foot you'll still eat some big shots, but it's probably better to put him on the back foot, than having him wait until the perfect moment. I can't see Ruiz putting him on the back foot too much, since he doesn't really have the physical presence that Fury has.

Two different fighters, Ruiz is not even a top 5 best heavyweight boxer in the world IMO, so Ruiz does not stand a chance against Wilder who is a power puncher. With this size, I don't see he can do a big counter punch on Wilder if he doesn't know how to box him well, and if he cannot absorb the hard punches of Wilder.

I'm not expecting a lot from Ruiz, but I'm just hoping he'll give a competitive fight so the fight will not end immediately.

Most likely Ruiz will want to put up a good challenge for Wilder here, after all Ruiz wanted to get back the respect that he once had when he defeated Joshua as an underdog. Both are flat footed in my opinion and that's why they took advantage of their power, we've see how powerful Wilder is, before that lost to Fury. But for sure he still has that power in him in this fight So Ruiz will have a difficult time to move away and avoid that power punches of Wilder and not sure if he can absorb that hard punches once it landed on his chin.
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Ruiz is already out ranged, which probably means that anything thrown by Wilder will be at speed, and connect at the right moment. He's shown a decent chin, and good recovery. However, I personally don't think it's a good thing that it has been tested so many times. You do that against Wilder, and you'll be knocked out before you know it.

Fury showed that when you put Wilder on the back foot you'll still eat some big shots, but it's probably better to put him on the back foot, than having him wait until the perfect moment. I can't see Ruiz putting him on the back foot too much, since he doesn't really have the physical presence that Fury has.

Two different fighters, Ruiz is not even a top 5 best heavyweight boxer in the world IMO, so Ruiz does not stand a chance against Wilder who is a power puncher. With this size, I don't see he can do a big counter punch on Wilder if he doesn't know how to box him well, and if he cannot absorb the hard punches of Wilder.

I'm not expecting a lot from Ruiz, but I'm just hoping he'll give a competitive fight so the fight will not end immediately.
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Ruiz is already out ranged, which probably means that anything thrown by Wilder will be at speed, and connect at the right moment. He's shown a decent chin, and good recovery. However, I personally don't think it's a good thing that it has been tested so many times. You do that against Wilder, and you'll be knocked out before you know it.

Fury showed that when you put Wilder on the back foot you'll still eat some big shots, but it's probably better to put him on the back foot, than having him wait until the perfect moment. I can't see Ruiz putting him on the back foot too much, since he doesn't really have the physical presence that Fury has.
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And that's what we wanted to see in this fight, very interesting if Ruiz chin can hold up against the power of Wilder. I would say 50/50 maybe he will go down, but can recover, but if he hit him flush with so much power, then probably Ruiz will have his first knockout lost.

Only Fury had recovered from getting knock down, so I don't expect a lot from Ruiz because I don't think he has a strong chin like Fury. If he can stand up and continue to fight after getting knock down, then probably he will win the fight, but like I said, I don't want to expect a lot.
Ruiz has a solid chin I think and probably that will make him hard to be knockout. But I also agree in you that there’s less to expect from Ruiz, so I would rather vote for Wilder on this match. I’ve seen his previous fights, yes he’s strong and firm, but if Wilder will show better performance in the ring, that will eventually make him the underdog then.
legendary
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Just like Wilder. We aren't going to see Wilder try to outbox someone, simply because he doesn't have the skill set. We're going to see him go for the knock out. He gets outpointed every fight he's in, and it'll likely be the same with the Ruiz fight. However, he manages to get a few big punches in, and those big punches usually knock out the opponent. I don't think Ruiz's chin is up to the standard of Fury's either.

And that's what we wanted to see in this fight, very interesting if Ruiz chin can hold up against the power of Wilder. I would say 50/50 maybe he will go down, but can recover, but if he hit him flush with so much power, then probably Ruiz will have his first knockout lost.
That is the big mystery of this fight, we know that Ruiz has in fact a good chin, but how good it is? The chin of Fury is insane as even if was put on the floor a few times by Wilder he got up and was still able to keep himself in the fight without too much of a problem while other boxers probably did not even knew their own names after they received a punch thrown by Wilder, if Ruiz is as motivated as he was on his first fight with Joshua and he can take head-on the power of Wilder then his chances to win this fight raise considerably.
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I doubt personally that the guy with the bloated belly,the white guy in the picture above to have real possibilities to win the fight.Well as I said before when two persons are fighting each other is the most difficult to predict in terms of betting as we don't know the physical form of each of the fighters.

However I never would bet on someone with that bloated belly as the white guy which I am assuming is Ruiz because I don't follow that much this sport,it is a weak point for him,if he is hit there strongly chances are he will immediately lose the fight.
You have a point too. As much as possible, fighters should always stay fit and healthy, because that will also give effect to the outcome of their fight. Otherwise, they will feel exhausted and completely tired in the middle of the fight which will instantly lead to a loss. However, we can’t be sure too if Ruiz will be affected with his bloated belly as he seems even braver, and even seems a powerful puncher. So let’s just wait and see when the final fight happens.
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Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr. is the next confirmed heavyweight title eliminator, the World Boxing Council has confirmed.
I believe the fight between Deontay Wilder and Andy Ruiz will surely happen this year, it's one of the fights that people would like to see happen and I bet Wilder to win. Andy Ruiz has made a very good name for himself and his rise to the heavyweight division has been much noticed and appreciated. But this guy is still an underdog person to me, Deontay Wilder is more experienced and had defeated wilder beasts than him. His own would not be an issue.

However, it would be difficult for him to knock Ruiz down easily, he should get prepared for the survival of the fittest till the last possible round along with his magic hand and let his height be an instrument of intimidation.
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And that's what we wanted to see in this fight, very interesting if Ruiz chin can hold up against the power of Wilder. I would say 50/50 maybe he will go down, but can recover, but if he hit him flush with so much power, then probably Ruiz will have his first knockout lost.

Only Fury had recovered from getting knock down, so I don't expect a lot from Ruiz because I don't think he has a strong chin like Fury. If he can stand up and continue to fight after getting knock down, then probably he will win the fight, but like I said, I don't want to expect a lot.
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I agree, during the first Fury fight, it seems that he is really motivated, after all it's a great chance for him to showcase his talent and then that huge upset win he got. But after that we all know that he become laid back, nowhere he is close during the rematch and if I'm not mistaken, he is more heavier than in the first fight. Joshua become more intelligent on that fight. So if a version on him shows with nothing to lose and he will throw everything at Wilder, then maybe we will see a good fight and probably pull another upset in the HW division. But that one punch KO of Wilder though, if that landed flush, we can see if that chin will stay on crack under pressure.
Joshua just became a little more shy. He fought intelligently, but against any half motivated fighter he probably would've been out boxed. It's one of my biggest annoyances with Joshua ever since that fight. He thinks he can outbox some of the better boxers in the division, yet that isn't what he built his career on.

He became more cautious though, I would have to agree, even in the Usyk first fight, he has somewhat pull back early on giving Usyk the chance to score and when he tries to come back in the later round, he was so down in the judges score card and then Usyk using this technical abilities to win the fight twice

Just like Wilder. We aren't going to see Wilder try to outbox someone, simply because he doesn't have the skill set. We're going to see him go for the knock out. He gets outpointed every fight he's in, and it'll likely be the same with the Ruiz fight. However, he manages to get a few big punches in, and those big punches usually knock out the opponent. I don't think Ruiz's chin is up to the standard of Fury's either.

And that's what we wanted to see in this fight, very interesting if Ruiz chin can hold up against the power of Wilder. I would say 50/50 maybe he will go down, but can recover, but if he hit him flush with so much power, then probably Ruiz will have his first knockout lost.
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I agree, during the first Fury fight, it seems that he is really motivated, after all it's a great chance for him to showcase his talent and then that huge upset win he got. But after that we all know that he become laid back, nowhere he is close during the rematch and if I'm not mistaken, he is more heavier than in the first fight. Joshua become more intelligent on that fight. So if a version on him shows with nothing to lose and he will throw everything at Wilder, then maybe we will see a good fight and probably pull another upset in the HW division. But that one punch KO of Wilder though, if that landed flush, we can see if that chin will stay on crack under pressure.
Joshua just became a little more shy. He fought intelligently, but against any half motivated fighter he probably would've been out boxed. It's one of my biggest annoyances with Joshua ever since that fight. He thinks he can outbox some of the better boxers in the division, yet that isn't what he built his career on.

Just like Wilder. We aren't going to see Wilder try to outbox someone, simply because he doesn't have the skill set. We're going to see him go for the knock out. He gets outpointed every fight he's in, and it'll likely be the same with the Ruiz fight. However, he manages to get a few big punches in, and those big punches usually knock out the opponent. I don't think Ruiz's chin is up to the standard of Fury's either.
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Depends what Ruiz we get. Whether it'll be the laid back version or the fighter that is actually chasing something. Even then, I suspect Wilder to catch him later in the rounds, and likely put him down for the fight. I like Ruiz, at least when he was motivated, and he seemed like a nice guy outside the ring. Whereas, Wilder seems to be a little delusional, and has a god complex. I don't know if that's for show though.

I'd probably edge towards Wilder simply because he managed to put Fury down despite his movement several times. I don't expect Ruiz to have the stamina or movement to avoid that.

I agree, during the first Fury fight, it seems that he is really motivated, after all it's a great chance for him to showcase his talent and then that huge upset win he got. But after that we all know that he become laid back, nowhere he is close during the rematch and if I'm not mistaken, he is more heavier than in the first fight. Joshua become more intelligent on that fight. So if a version on him shows with nothing to lose and he will throw everything at Wilder, then maybe we will see a good fight and probably pull another upset in the HW division. But that one punch KO of Wilder though, if that landed flush, we can see if that chin will stay on crack under pressure.
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I also don't think this fight will be decided by the scorecards. This is most probably ending in a knockout. Wilder is the potential winner here. It looks like Wilder has all the advantages over Ruiz: reach, height, power, and others. Early odds suggest the same with Wilder being the favorite at 1.43. But I still want Ruiz to give a good fight. I even want this underdog to win. He can upset Wilder, of course, but he and his team will have to develop a great strategy against the bigger man. And Ruiz has to train really hard and come out 100% fit and ready.
They cant really just let this to be taken lightly but rather the opposite, of course their camp would really be finding out ways on how to beat up Wilder.Pretty sure they are aware on whats his weakness
which i would probably say about stamina based up on observation from his past fights but this is just my own view. Technicality wise and power then i dont have doubts for Wilder
and this is something should Ruiz to watch on.Dont let those powerpunches would hit up that solid or else KO would be guaranteed.
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I also don't think this fight will be decided by the scorecards. This is most probably ending in a knockout. Wilder is the potential winner here. It looks like Wilder has all the advantages over Ruiz: reach, height, power, and others. Early odds suggest the same with Wilder being the favorite at 1.43. But I still want Ruiz to give a good fight. I even want this underdog to win. He can upset Wilder, of course, but he and his team will have to develop a great strategy against the bigger man. And Ruiz has to train really hard and come out 100% fit and ready.
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Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr. is the next confirmed heavyweight title eliminator, the World Boxing Council has confirmed.

Even though i don't really like Deontay Wilder i still think that he is the favorite in a fight against Andy Ruiz. I mean both of them are not really good boxers from a technical point of view but Ruiz is still better in this regard than Wilder. That does not really change the fact though that Wilder still has that extreme power to knock every opponent out with only one punch that hits the target nicely. Also i have to say, that this fight is not really hyping me up or that i am really looking forward to it.
For me this just feels like a tier 2 fight in comparison to a possible fight of Tyson Fury versus Oleksyndr Usyk or even a fight of Fury vs Anthony Joshua.
Whoever wins this fight of Wilder vs Ruiz will not really have a chance against Fury or Usyk anyway because they are both great technical fighters.
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Depends what Ruiz we get. Whether it'll be the laid back version or the fighter that is actually chasing something. Even then, I suspect Wilder to catch him later in the rounds, and likely put him down for the fight. I like Ruiz, at least when he was motivated, and he seemed like a nice guy outside the ring. Whereas, Wilder seems to be a little delusional, and has a god complex. I don't know if that's for show though.

I'd probably edge towards Wilder simply because he managed to put Fury down despite his movement several times. I don't expect Ruiz to have the stamina or movement to avoid that.
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