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Topic: Dev and team, show some care - page 3. (Read 441 times)

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July 26, 2020, 02:21:40 AM
#27
Bounty hunters aren't respecting themselves either, at least not all of them, bounty hunters add to value or reputation to themselves, they promote projects for pennies, they have no each other's back when things goes sideways.
sr. member
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July 26, 2020, 01:47:52 AM
#26
Well, not all teams do that, but some do it too, after making the bounty they blame it. however, sometimes investors also think like that. Well, it's just that it only happens to a few projects. however, some of the projects that I participated in made the bounty hunter in harmony with investors, it's just that investors don't like it, because they think bounty hunters make prices dump.
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July 26, 2020, 01:32:51 AM
#25
There are some projects treating hunter like garbage. Those who can just viewed us as money beggars. But they are wrong if werent up to us promoting their project then they cant be successful. They owe a lot from these people and thats how they treat us. I can vouch many projects are doing this kind of treatment and those are the worse one.
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July 26, 2020, 01:32:34 AM
#24
Here is not intended to participate in insulting bounty hunters because I myself still participate in bounty campaign activities too, in my opinion, there are reasons why there are still many projects that insult bounty hunter

1. I think because bounty hunter is the main cause of token dump even though it depends on the allocation and liquidity project itself

2. Most bounty hunters work in spam, for example in creating article content, blogs, if you observe that 80% of the content is spin article and the level of similarity is very high on social media as well if you see Twitter tweets, Facebook status content is almost same as copywriting and I think this makes them angry

3. I think the cause they don't like bounty hunters because spam is often done especially about bounty distribution. Sometimes there are some hunters who spam main telegram project group by asking when bounty distribution. in fact, if they reading in bounty thread or in special bounty group all detail is clear.
It's true that few bounty managers maltreat bounty hunters because there are too many cheating hunters today, I feel you but why is a bounty manager called bounty manager? To fix and fish out scammers and spammers is part of the job of a bounty manager, can anyone cheat Julerz12 bounty campaign? Of cos not
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July 26, 2020, 01:15:06 AM
#23
I keep wondering why developers and teams will keep treating bounty hunters as trash. Maybe you forgot that you need bounty hunters as much as bounty hunters need you. Why act as if you don't need them when you actually need hunters. No one force you to start a campaign, why make promises when you cannot keep them. Some of you are even fond of saying it is a cheap work, if you actually know is a cheap work then gather your team of advisors, blockchain technologist, marketers, C.E.O, and start making post yourself and making tweet yourself. Stop looking down on bounty hunters, it is not as easy as you think. Using cheaters as an excuse is not acceptable, your job is to filter out cheaters using bm or doing it yourself.
I hope this would get to developers and upcoming teams but they don't listen, what I do now to avoid all this rubbish is follow a reputable bounty manager, I don't want to promote any project that the bounty manager is part of the team, I've seen enough mistreat from project team
sr. member
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July 26, 2020, 01:10:13 AM
#22
A good topic to be discussed and in general I think of it this way: If you don't value the people who help you in any way, how are you going to get any return? Thinking in this way we find several failed projects that only thought about themselves and forgot about the community and the promoters and hunters. What we sow we reap.
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July 25, 2020, 10:29:25 PM
#21
I keep wondering why developers and teams will keep treating bounty hunters as trash. Maybe you forgot that you need bounty hunters as much as bounty hunters need you. Why act as if you don't need them when you actually need hunters. No one force you to start a campaign, why make promises when you cannot keep them. Some of you are even fond of saying it is a cheap work, if you actually know is a cheap work then gather your team of advisors, blockchain technologist, marketers, C.E.O, and start making post yourself and making tweet yourself. Stop looking down on bounty hunters, it is not as easy as you think. Using cheaters as an excuse is not acceptable, your job is to filter out cheaters using bm or doing it yourself.

Yeah I agree they are exposed like that, compared to bounty managers in the service section which promote mixers and gambling sites they are more considerate and reputable, it's better to just join bounties of managers that are considerate, usually, they are independent contractor, some managers that belongs to the team are inconsiderate.

If the project is legit at all levels, they will have professional approach when dealing with bounty hunters. But for so long, it is better to join in bitcoin paying campaigns under reputable managers here. And you can never go wrong with that. But if you prefer those token paying campaigns, don't expect that you will get paid on time and according to the agreed rates.
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July 25, 2020, 08:58:27 PM
#20
Most of the times these projects are those that are badly executed. There are rare events of a successful project crying out about bounty hunters.
Though filtering out multiple users and plagiarized content are good for bounty hunter themselves, it's not good to blame every participants for some bots and scammers. Bounty manager ofcourse has a greater role to act both as a bridge between devs and participants as well to keep bots and scammers out of the campaign.
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July 25, 2020, 06:57:54 PM
#19
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This has been always happening and actually no need to complain anymore. We are all bounty hunters who may have known about this happening several times. But let's see from a two-sides point of view.
1. Bounty hunter views
We have worked several weeks or months hardly to fulfill all the requirements by the BM as good as possible, avoiding spam posts and many others. But, in the middle of the campaign or at the end of the campaign, the rules changed. Well, actually they have noticed previously at the beginning that the team can change the T&C and we cannot complain for it. Moreover, after the end of the campaign, there are so many requirements addition to being given staring from KYC, fulfilling form, proof of work, and many others. And we must wait for months to get the rewards. And after waiting for months, we are excluded as the participants that accept the rewards. It hurts. Yeah, it really hurts and it may often happen so far.

2. Team perspective
However, aside from that, we must also see from the perspective of the team. They may have certain considerations why should tighten the rules and also T&C of claiming the rewards.
....So in conclusion, once you see these stats, it's hard to believe stuff around bounty. Especially when you see 10 accounts pming you, with same grammar mistakes Smiley
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This is what I mean. they do this because of this kind of condition. there are so many multi-accounts that join in similar bounty campaigns and the team should clear of this. They have the data and they may also know the alt-accounts in their projects. therefore, they tighten the rules to get the rewards.

Although it may not be fair for other bounty participants that are actually honest, this is their real fact.

Moreover, after the bounty has ended, it doesn't mean that the program is ended. We must be also active to check and recheck the bounty thread announcement or in the telegram group to see the progress and also additional rules to be submitted or done by the bounty hunters. Commonly, many bounty hunters will leave the projects when it has ended and they will come back if they are no qualified for the rewards because they miss the information to do more things before the distribution.
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July 25, 2020, 06:05:22 PM
#18
No one can stop them, except bounty hunters have same voice or better still, except the funds to be paid to bounty hunters are escrowed, in a way in which they have no say or power to withdraw the fund.
They know that bounty hunters are very useful to their projects, yet they act as though they are nothing to them. This act will not come up at the beginning and neither will you noticeit at the middle, but immediately they get what they wanted, they begin to show attitudes.
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July 25, 2020, 05:51:47 PM
#17
It is now like a norm and there seems to be no solution to it. But what baffles me is that, during the bounty campaign, they don't say a word nor comment on the work been carried out but once all is over, they will now start showing their true colour such that those who never asked for kyc will then initiate one and when asked they refers the participants to the rules guiding the bounty and even at that, they might still not pay. Many projects have denied hunters there rewards for a long time now and nothing was ever said about it, at the same time there are project team who see it as nothing to reward their bounty hunters; thus one can see that it varies from team to team.
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July 25, 2020, 05:28:18 PM
#16
They would love to be,  but because of their greediness they Won't. Project team should be happy when their project is seeing the best light from investors. Sometimes, even when their project is successful they tend not to pay those who brought them the luck. Project team should encourage bounty hunters, either by making a compulsory escrow services available for the hunter's.
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July 25, 2020, 05:17:05 PM
#15
I keep wondering why developers and teams will keep treating bounty hunters as trash. Maybe you forgot that you need bounty hunters as much as bounty hunters need you. Why act as if you don't need them when you actually need hunters. No one force you to start a campaign, why make promises when you cannot keep them. Some of you are even fond of saying it is a cheap work, if you actually know is a cheap work then gather your team of advisors, blockchain technologist, marketers, C.E.O, and start making post yourself and making tweet yourself. Stop looking down on bounty hunters, it is not as easy as you think. Using cheaters as an excuse is not acceptable, your job is to filter out cheaters using bm or doing it yourself.

thats why if you want to join any bounty campaign, you must doing a research my friend
choose only a good bounty project with serious, professional and honest team, just my opinion
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July 25, 2020, 04:58:01 PM
#14
Well not every projects team/dev are same but yes now days maximum projects team/dev treat bounty hunters like a thief. When they start campaign they have not much issue but when time come for payment they trying to show many excuses. Even many projects directly scam hunters. A very good example for that is "DigitalBits" project. I heard they didn't gave bounty hunters payment from very long time and after that they scammed bounty hunters. People should be aware from this kinda project.
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July 25, 2020, 03:14:41 PM
#13
it wont still change the habits of some bad project teams. the only lasting solution is to have an escrow system that will have all the coins and make sure payment is done. this will save the hunters from doing a free work and also for the team to have a good job done for them.
sr. member
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July 25, 2020, 03:06:23 PM
#12
Actually they care, but only at first when they need bounty hunters, after some time they will start ignoring your inquiries about the project development. I've experienced this a lot way back when I was bounty hunting about 2 years ago, whenever I ask something on their telegram channel they will ask you first if you are an investor or a bounty hunter, once they get to know where you belong they will transfer you to the bounty telegram channel with one UNRESPONSIVE administrator, his job? he will only post a monthly update. So I guess for now project reputation is a must for a bounty hunter, I bet you all lived with a year having less $100 on your address.
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July 25, 2020, 02:56:30 PM
#11
Here is not intended to participate in insulting bounty hunters because I myself still participate in bounty campaign activities too, in my opinion, there are reasons why there are still many projects that insult bounty hunter

1. I think because bounty hunter is the main cause of token dump even though it depends on the allocation and liquidity project itself

2. Most bounty hunters work in spam, for example in creating article content, blogs, if you observe that 80% of the content is spin article and the level of similarity is very high on social media as well if you see Twitter tweets, Facebook status content is almost same as copywriting and I think this makes them angry

3. I think the cause they don't like bounty hunters because spam is often done especially about bounty distribution. Sometimes there are some hunters who spam main telegram project group by asking when bounty distribution. in fact, if they reading in bounty thread or in special bounty group all detail is clear.

you can bet all these points, but the fact is that these creators of new altcoins do not like to pay people who sacrifice so much to promote their product and worse than most of the time these new altcoins are listed in shitty exchanges or ask for participants to do KYC, this system is very wrong

They create tokens from thin air and they have nothing to offer in real life after purchasing those tokens that they've made.

I think it’s only fair that they pay in bitcoin and weekly
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July 25, 2020, 02:47:16 PM
#11
Here is not intended to participate in insulting bounty hunters because I myself still participate in bounty campaign activities too, in my opinion, there are reasons why there are still many projects that insult bounty hunter

1. I think because bounty hunter is the main cause of token dump even though it depends on the allocation and liquidity project itself

2. Most bounty hunters work in spam, for example in creating article content, blogs, if you observe that 80% of the content is spin article and the level of similarity is very high on social media as well if you see Twitter tweets, Facebook status content is almost same as copywriting and I think this makes them angry

3. I think the cause they don't like bounty hunters because spam is often done especially about bounty distribution. Sometimes there are some hunters who spam main telegram project group by asking when bounty distribution. in fact, if they reading in bounty thread or in special bounty group all detail is clear.
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July 25, 2020, 02:42:40 PM
#10
I think bounty hunters need to help themselves. Stop doing campaign or promoting any project you do not trust the bounty manager, most of the time it is not the fault of the team or developers but the bounty managers that sell themselves cheap. Also some bounty hunters do not help matter causing unnecessary problem for the bounty managers
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July 25, 2020, 02:31:42 PM
#9
You should think of them that don't care with their investors. They create tokens from thin air and they have nothing to offer in real life after purchasing those tokens that they've made. Don't join them if you think that the developers of that bounty do look down to bounty hunters.
You have a choice for each opportunity that comes and not all of those opportunities can be found in bounties.
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