Topic: Diamond(DMD) Beware of - page 2. (Read 9967 times)

Argon18 here just so you don't confuse me with UtahJohn.

IMO
Have you met cryptonit in person, because online profiles are very easy to fake.
i mean actually met him face to face and shook his hand?

If you have not actually met him face to face , then for all you know he could be like this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0

If DMD was only putting out a coin, ok,
but they are asking for money to be sent directly to them where they act as an investment firm, that separates them from the majority of other coins.
  
You say all of us that question DMD don't show facts, but the real issue is every fact we do show , you ignore as not factual.

Fact : they offered a payout rate for DMD cloud mining after not even 6 months , they want to change the contract after failing to meet a payout, if it was Merrill lynch that pulled that stunt , you would sue them for damages.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10743527
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10743245

Now that is a stated fact , if you can not see it as a fact , how can we communicate when our perception of reality is completely different.

AG18

Additional Fact
Math is factual , run the cloud mining #s for bitcoin and do 100% investment after 6 months to a year , you will see it eaten away by difficulty & fees
http://www.computingtoolzandtricks.com/2015/01/bitcoinlitecoinscrypt-cloud-mining.html

Fact DMD cloud mining thought 30% reinvestment would be enough, now want to increase it to 50%,
problem is even 100% won't do what they say it will within a year.
This Fact is just doing the math.

 

The term Caveman I wouldn't use in that regard UtahJohn.  You clearly are not a caveman, I would assume at best, a person that lacks impulse control to even read through their own writing.  You by no mean come off like an idiot.  Just overly abrasive, easily offended and you have a hair trigger temper.   Clearly there are ways to communicate better in writing.   

Maybe you should write your questions in a clear valid argument as opposed to a pure accusation.  Back up your factual findings with facts not something pulled from the either of space.  That MAYBE the case.   You take a maybe as FACT.   Calling into questions of Fraud and Scams is a serious accusation in any setting.   None have occurred to you with DMD that I am aware of.  Why on earth would Popshot and Cryptonit publish such an online presence and be so open if they were not out to build something bigger?   

Sorry but that is just my opinion take it for what it is worth.

Good luck.   

First off, don't hate any of you.
But i don't like for someone to Lie all of the time and never be called on it.
Plus DMD seems to think it is the best PR to Delete all posts of anyone , that questions or makes outright statements and places the formulas up to be used to verify, but all of this is ignored.
The questions is how can anyone not believe it is a ponzi.
By the way , place the link to it definition in most of my posts in the diamond forum, but they deleted all of the posts.

Guy if you only believe what cryptonit tells you and you disbelieve your own eyes and ears for his judgement , there is not much anyone can do for you , your fate is sealed. My arguments have all used logic and a tech background of over 30 years, but instead of arguing on a tech level , Diamond Devs say
Haters are gonna hate.

When you have no logic to backup your reasoning, but use childish propaganda is the 1st sign something  was wrong. IF you believe a magic cloud mining will keep paying out the same rate every time , so you can believe it will keep buying diamonds, then you are delusional.
Hey if the cloud mining actually worked that way, why even mess with diamonds, the magic cloud mining would pay your bills.
The Fact is the cloud mining is already failing to meet payouts , that why they want to change the contact. Which how can you trust anyone , that changes a signed contract whenever they feel like it, answer : You Can't.

You Boffin1818 are short of money right now, understandable because it is hard times across the world.
Since you are short on funds , you have a need an overwhelming desire for the Diamond Ponzi to be the real deal, Problem is the desire is so great , it has shut down all logic.

You are no different , than an old person that gets ripped off with a investment ponzi and after falling for it another ponzi comes along, and they fall for it too, losing even more money.
Investigators asked these old people why did you send them money again after the 1st time they ripped you off, the old people said because they lost so much money before , that the only way they could ever make it up was that this time it was the real deal.

You are making yourself believe an oblivious scam.
You and a few others will still have trouble believing it was a scam even after all of the diamonds are worthless and the cloudshares have long since quit paying and the reactor is no more.

i would never had been so hard on DMD, if they actually answer anything logically, but they never did.
Since i uses logic that why they could not just ignore me, because i am speaking the truth, and they are hiding it. But you don't want reason , you want an desire that diamond will make you rich beyond your wildest dream. Hey Go for it , go buy all of the diamond coins you want, but ponzis die when no other suckers pay behind you, cloud mining is already having trouble, it will be even worse in 3 months.
Just when you finally do understand how much money you threw away,
Don't Say No One Warned You!!!

AG18

I guess time will tell.   You after all, have all the answers.   So every question you propose is yet answered by your own brilliance.   

I find it comical how you have diluted yourself with the premise that I am some sort of fake newbie account.   I simply do not donate the countless hours pondering and trolling boards.  I do enjoy poking your kind with a stick every so often.   

With all the free time you appear to have you're either retired like UTAHJohn.... or frankly have no life outside of your computer again like UtahJohn...  That is all beside the point.



Again remind me how DMD is in fact a Ponzi scheme?  Or are you just latching onto that buzz word for effect? 

The sheer definition from a simple google search reveals:

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned by the operator.

Could you provide a concrete example how the DMD team is doing this?  Possibly some shred of proof?  Maybe an example. 

From my understanding the profits earned from cloudmining are paid to all the investors just about daily....   I can't see how there are new daily investors to account for the payouts?   Yet you assume that because there are payouts and actual proof of a BTC to DMD system in place to support price/value, heck look at the price effect on Cryptsy...  One could deduce based off of that it isn't a scam....   But yet there will be people who choose to cast stones for they simply hate the fact that they didn't do it first.   HoboNickles anyone?

Heck Maybe cryptonit is actually a goat punching.  Rabbit raping crazy man who wears womens cloths.....  Just because it might be the case.  I don't see people incessantly posting in the forums on that.   Might be and are... Completely different.



No I question your motives.....  Guy....     I question why are you so hell bent to toll on something that is purely baseless?  Spewforth nothing but things conjured in your own mind.   

Reactor is a scam...  Because it must be....   
Cloudmining is a scam....  Because it must be.....
DMD is a scam because it must be....   


What if by sheer dumb stupid fate you're wrong and the whole thing is on the UP and UP....  The DMD team is developing something that will be part of the next leg of Crypto......       You missed an opportunity.   

Well we all live and learn that much I hope we can agree on....

Enjoy living in that hate filled bubble you seem to create in every forum you appear in.....




 

LOL,
Boffin1818 you are just a Newbie PR account created to spread lies.
All of your posts have been in support of dmd devs and no other forums posts.
You even post a link to the forum that cryptonit is hiding in , because they can not handle the truth.

Many people have asked questions about diamond, your dmd devs have ignored or called them all trolls.

Notice your post was left up, diamond has been deleting posts daily to hide the fact , that they don't have any good answers to the questions asked of them.

The reason they can't come up with any decent responses, is the statements questioning them are all accurate, and they are just covering up security flaws and failed investing procedures.
You can't make limitless money cloud mining, POW coins difficultly goes up every 2 weeks, everyone that used cex.io knows this from personal experience, but cryptonit acts like the ones he picked will be magic and always offer the same return, they have already failed to meet payouts and it has not even been 6 months. And now they want to break contract and change the payout rules. All of that is true.

The POS security is weak, their are formulas put up that show it, dmd ignores it, the cloudmining shares has already missed feb payout. The reactor is a major scam , you sent them your dmd coins for free and they pay you back some of its interest, geez how dumb to you have to be to fall for this scam.

They are begging for money to fund a Press release, and crazyivan claims to be sitting on 10 BTC to throw at another coin, when he could have paid for the whole press release by himself.

It is a huge ponzi, and you so called supporters are in on it.
All except MightyKnight, that poor thing just has the mind of a child and follows cryptonit like a puppy.

Cryptonit should be ashamed of himself for taking advantage of so many people.
But from his posts , he feels no shame, only the burning need to steal your money for his own personal gain.

Sad to be Eloi.

AG18

Baseless?  Nobody will even answer even one of our questions without deleting our posts.  There is no transparency with this coin.  The fact that no one seems to care that one guy is collecting 50% of generated coins in the reactor that he forced on everyone.  Who got paid the 1200 dmd?  The only people dumping are the people running this con/coin.

Seriously,

Everyone of you on here need to get a life/real job.   Each and everyone of you on the DMD boards, did nothing but make baseless accusations.   UTAHJOHN was doing everything he could for a very long time to acquire as much DMD as he could muster.   

As Soon as he was ousted as a pure manipulator for his own personal gain....  POOF....  He flips to a hater to push the price lower for his own personal gathering.

Anyone reading this thread should take a step back and look at the hate being spread about a community.   By a very small minority...   



Good luck with your campaign and keep up the hate. 

If anyone wants to get the real details and understand the coin....  Feel free to stop by
http://bit.diamonds/

There are message boards and people who join are free to communicate.   

It gets to be a little overkill when people such as these folks jump on a thread and post incessantly, a continuous onslaught of baseless and outright fabricated nonsense to push the price of a coin around for there own gain.

Think of boiler rooms and stock market manipulation folks.   

Haters are always just going to hate.

Sounds like you are in love , maybe you better buy them before your trolling cause them Harm.
Notice there are no posts from me in their forum, because there is no scandals to combat.
That is why , i am so busy in the Diamond & PND forums all of the tricks you guys pull.

EvilDave had the closest understanding of me.

AG18

Whoa, hold the horses
10 BTC into HBN,
Why didn't you pay for the Entire Diamond Press release, if you can throw that much around?
Oh, i get it , you are going to steal the press release money with the reactor funds, never mind sorry, i asked.

Boy , you are slow.
i put up a link for anyone tired of the lies and scandals, that have become PND & Diamond.
But if puppet is all you can get out of that , ok, i will speak slower to you in the future.
By the way the only reason , one should click on the link is if they are looking for an honest dev.
So are you getting ready to switch because your ponzi is running out.

AG18

LOL,
@crazyivan but the HBN forum is not my forum never said it was.
Just said they had an honest dev & coin which they do.
You can attack them all day , it will just show how much of a ahole , diamond guys are.
So you being a troll over there has no effect on me , keep up the dumb work. LMAO

If you want this coin to survive, Quit the pretense at being incredible investment brokers.

If you want to prove you are not a Ponzi.

Sell the cloudshares and repay everyone as much of their money as possible, so they don't keep losing it.
Return the funds from the reactor before they are stolen to the people that sent them.
Just ask them to leave their wallets on 24x7.

Realize that the change in April will weaken your security even more.
You can't have a POS coin be secure with such a low # of coins.
Your only hope is to keep POW at least at the same payout until , you have a dramatically higher number of coins.

Continue to call everyone a troll and hide behind newbie accounts, just proves diamond is up to no good.

@cryptonit ,
you supposedly gave out your real name, and yet you are afraid to pm someone your diamond wallet address to prove that you are not up to any dirty dealings. In your words, U KNOW IT NO SENSE MAKE.

@Diamond Investors
Feb Payout was missing , do you think there will be one for April or May ?

Get some Answers from these people, otherwise they will continue to waste the money you sent , if they have any left.

AG18

LOL ,
Considering Mr. Newbie every single post from you has been in Diamond forum , and all in support of the Cloudshares and reactor.
Do you think that regular joes can't see through your BS!!!

So are you Happy, there was no Feb Payment from your Cloud shares?
Which by the way was a default : failure to fulfill an obligation
In the normal world , 3 people who did not receive a payment could force your cloudshares into bankruptcy due to nonpayment.


AG18

He completely ignored my posts regarding the legality of up and changing a CONTRACT.

Trick as many people into buying worthless cloudshares that lose purchasing power every month or just giving their diamonds to a reactor to be held until we sell them , oops mean until they are accidentally stolen.

Oh Wait,
sorry that is not the plan to get dmd to $1, but the plan to rip off the innocent to line cryptonit's pockets.

AG18

lol, nice posts. I had another 5 deleted yesterday too.  They are all in on it, they have to be, no one is that stupid.

DMD forum deleted Posts almost as fast , as I wrote them last night.
One thing is clear from shveicar & crazyivan constant brain dead defense of dmd .
They have got to be in on the Ponzi, because no one can be that stupid.

Dude, i am trying to warn you , that you are being ripped off.
None of you have even received 100% of cloud ripoff investment back yet, and DMD keeps asking for more.
It is not a get rich deal , it is a pay for cryptonit bills deal.

The only thing pathetic is that some of you zealots can't see that.
Maybe i can keep some newbies from being ripped off.

Mr. Math Genius 20 or 30% is nothing, if they end of keeping 70%.
Watch the reactor funds get stolen before you get 40% back.
No one got a 100% of there cloud shares funding back either and they are already changing the contract to keep you on the line longer. Faith in a higher power is good, blind faith in someone that is stealing your money by making promises that can't be kept, now that is just stupid.

These statements hurt so much , because deep down, you know it is true.

Sad to be Eloi.


Posted in case they delete it.

Dude, you seem a little upset and you got suckered.
Has anyone ever told you , your Post remind them of Christmas,
Must be all of the Red & Green. LOL

So you received your 1st payment from a reactor that you had to send coins to help fund.

Let me explain how a Ponzi works, You send in money to someone that Promise Massive Returns.
They send you a little bit of money back , so you think it is working, but the Trick is this ,
YOU WILL NEVER EVER RECEIVE THE TOTAL AMOUNT, THAT YOU ORIGINALLY SEND IN.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
DMD has already started failing on payments in the Cloud Shares Payouts.
Fact there was no payout from DMD Cloudmining Report February 2015:
there no reinvest shares for February distributed because the payment didnt arrive from AMHASH1
That Ponzi scheme is failing and you now fall for the Reactor, you are receiving interest on coins that you would have received interest on if you kept, except now someone else holds them.

That was not an investment , Dude That was a LOAN!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loan
Except you have no Collateral to seize if DMD reactor does not Pay you.
Really Wake UP.

And in Response to your last comment,
Sorry i don't swing that way,
Maybe you can pay some of those diamonds to someone to take care of that for you.
Better hurry though, Not everyone is going to keep falling for the Ponzi again & again like you.

Sad to be Eloi.

Argon18 is Outta Here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted in Case they Delete it.

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