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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

You don't have to install or buy a dicing machine. Having a computer is already enough for playing dice.

Yeah, why install a dice machine?

For one they don't come cheap, two they can be expensive, three take a lot of space and four the experience is not the same.

Plus, technology is now the way forward anyway, you don't want to be teaching something which is not the real experience.

And I won't go into why you'd want to teach your kid gambling...

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

Idea is not bad itself, but i don't like your idea to introduce it to your son and make him a gambler. He is already playing computer games, maybe in future he will be a champion of LoL or something like that. It's not good to throw him into a risk to be gambling addicted. My opinion, nothing more.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

Despite all the advice and teachings that you'll do to take him away from gambling addiction if you're going to install a dice machine, that will still bring him closer to gambling too much. You can introduce gambling to him but you don't have to exert too much effort for him to play dice games. Let him pick his enjoy playing computer games without any funds involved. There are still better things for him to enjoy rather than gambling.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

I think it is a nice gesture of teaching your kid about the dangers of gambling but prevention is always better than cure!

Instead of introducing him the subject of gambling and the effects of dice games, open up topics or subjects that may deviate your kid about gambling in general. The mindset that "he is going to learn it whatever ways" sounds slightly wrong in my perspective. Let him be curious on a certain topic and when such time comes, that is when you will exercise your role as a parent and brief him about gambling, in general.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

I don't know if you are just using the wrong words here or you really meant them, but I don't quite agree with you. I mean, is there really a need to buy a dice machine? I guess this is just all about you, all about you merely wanting it because dice is one of your favorite gambling games.

Also, I don't agree introducing gambling to minors. That's a big no no for me. As a matter of fact, gambling is illegal to minors in almost all countries.

Why don't you teach your son something else like basketball, football, playing the guitar or the piano, fishing, and so on? Why gambling? Why even introduce it? I would understand if he's interested and approaches you first asking questions related to gambling, but if you are the one making the first move, I'm simply not for it.

I think it's better to be introduced to gambling by parents than by some unknown rogues on the streets. At least you know you are acquiring reliable informations from your father that will help you managing your bankroll during a gambling session and if a father spots his son isn't dealing with gambling properly, help can be found earlier, what will prevent negative consequences in the life of this individual.
Furthermore his son is 17 years old already, not a kid anymore. In this age people have the ability to learn the risks implied in gambling, what is inevitable in this modern world where there are constant incentives to this activity through gambling ads frequently seen on the internet, television and even on the streets.

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Quote from: blockman on October 21, 2021, 12:12:55 PM

Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

You don't have to install or buy a dicing machine. Having a computer is already enough for playing dice. But as you mentioned that you want to let your son play for it.
Think of it a hundred times before allowing him so. Are you sure that you're allowing your kid to play dice? It will make you worry whenever he's already addicted on it.

The OP is saying that he wants do it just for the fun of it so he knows he does not has to do it and it is doing it just because this is what he wants, and about reaching the kid about gambling or not, I have always thought that it is the responsibility of the parents to teach their kids about complex subjects that kids could have come problems understanding by themselves, and I think gambling is one of those subjects, so as long as he teaches his son about the dangers of gambling addiction, the house edge, how over the long term the house will win and to watch for signs that things are getting out of hand I think it is going to be fine.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it

I don't think your son really needs lessons in gambling just because he's such a good gamer. and I think that introducing gambling to your own son who are not interested in the first place is not necessary. they will find out when they grow up .To be honest, it's quite confusing with your statement , you want to influence your son to become an addict or avoid gambling habit to him.

Being good at playing computer games doesn't mean everything has to end in gambling. If I were the OP, then I wouldn't teach anything if it wasn't liked by a child. The task of parents is only to direct according to the interests he wants. there is no need to force and give something that the child does not like. Just point in the direction where the child's skills are interested. Many things things game on the computer. So it is too early to introduce gambling to its immature psychological level.

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You want to introduce dice to your 17 year old son I think he knows better what gambling dice is because he has been in front of the computer for a long time because a gamer would know what dice is, so why do dice machines at home when online is easier?

Just give a popular dice site here and I'm sure it will be easy to learn it but of course you have to be able to watch it so it doesn't become a long addiction, so if it's your job to introduce it then you have to be prepared to take the risk.

Now it's easy with online gambling sites compared to machines that have to be bought.

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No one can question your parenting style, you do it your way. But just like others, I am also concerned about the distinction of computer gaming, which is the interests of your child, to gambling. While it is not bad to educate your child yourself, maybe encouraging and enticing him to try gambling is not much of. Good idea. Addiction cannot be traced and stopped easily when it starting to happen.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

Dice machine?
For your house?
Isn't it too much for you to be teaching your son this? Maybe he would not gamble in the future, well this way you would be introducing him to gambling in an indirect way. Even if you wanted it to be a positive thing, it might end up getting converted into a more serious concern. I do think if you do want to teach him all these you should wait for him to turn 18 and after that, you should genuinely just try these games out online. It's not a good idea to install a machine, is it now ??

I just want to teach him as a way of fun since he already has an interest in computer gaming, I will be introducing it to him by myself will help prepare his mind for the future and also kill the possibility of him getting thought in the wrong way from the society. The society I mean from friends.

Your son is good in computer gaming, and you want him to learn about gambling?
If I were you, I wont do that as I will support him to focus on the computer games instead of teaching/introducing him to gambling game.
Computer games and gambling games are two different thing, I do not understand why you want to teach him about gambling because he is good in computer games.
What computer games your son play regularly? Is it online games or something related to card games?

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

Have a talk with your son first and ask him f he wants to be like you be straightforward so you can teach him all the ins and outs of gambling right away, and you don't have to buy a dicing machine your son is 17 years no need to teach him kid's stuff go to a gambling site right away and teach him how to play dice, 17 years old can think like 30 years old when it comes to gambling.

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Quote from: fiulpro on October 21, 2021, 12:24:27 PM

Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

Dice machine?
For your house?
Isn't it too much for you to be teaching your son this? Maybe he would not gamble in the future, well this way you would be introducing him to gambling in an indirect way. Even if you wanted it to be a positive thing, it might end up getting converted into a more serious concern. I do think if you do want to teach him all these you should wait for him to turn 18 and after that, you should genuinely just try these games out online. It's not a good idea to install a machine, is it now ??

I just want to teach him as a way of fun since he already has an interest in computer gaming, I will be introducing it to him by myself will help prepare his mind for the future and also kill the possibility of him getting thought in the wrong way from the society. The society I mean from friends.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

If anyone who knows your son the most is you. If you think he can handle it and can control himself when addicted to gambling then you can go on. I learned cards and dice when we are still kids betting our pennies during that time and learned gambling didn't get me addicted to gambling even when there is no parents telling me to stop. None of the friends I play with become addicted to gambling I guess starting gambling as kids will make casinos boring. At 17, I think he has his own mind already.

But I think with the parent's guide as well.
This age is still dependent on their parents and maybe the fund where get comes from their pocket that can be used in gambling. It must always be parents responsibility and I maybe it is good if you teach other learning lessons than this kind of game. They don't know maybe the value of money if this will lose and it will continue until your wealth will bankrupt. I don't know dice machines but I know how to play dice games online and I think that is easy to play even at home.

By the time someone loses his OWN money that's when he will value money but this is when you have your own mind already. When you are old enough to understand that earning and paying bills from your own money, that's when one understands the value of money. To worse, people even lose friends and family when they have no money.

If I was the father I will make the kid bet online and once he loses it all, I shall see what the kid will do. If he does the tantrum, give him another that is not intended for gambling and see if he gambles again.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

Why don't you just buy him an iPad? Or bette, a pair of real dice?

Or just buy him some of those worthless FUN coins and send him to freebitco.in so he can try all those autobet strategies, martingale and shit. We all went through that route when we started gambling. I know I thought the martingale strategy was the most brilliant shit ever when I heard about it in high school.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

I am pretty sure he already knows what gambling is. I mean, it is pretty prevalent on online MMORPG nowadays. what I think he doesn't know is what gambling games are there or what dangers it poses to people. sure I am not against teaching your son about dice games but I think you should focus on reminding him what it can cause to people if it is not in moderation.

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When he asks for the information regarding dicing you can go for it. Let him keep himself engaged into gaming, or else it is good to suggest him some form of dice game that is available with free tokens to play. When he keeps playing he'll understand the risks and the complications of dice game. For this purpose there isn't a need for dice machine.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it

I don't think your son really needs lessons in gambling just because he's such a good gamer. and I think that introducing gambling to your own son who are not interested in the first place is not necessary. they will find out when they grow up .To be honest, it's quite confusing with your statement , you want to influence your son to become an addict or avoid gambling habit to him.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

I'm kinda confuse, your son is very good at computer games and then you're going to turn his attention into gambling?
Well, I'm not questioning your parenting method, but there's actually a lot of good opportunities for the gamers and earn more money than gambling.
I think you should nurture his skills in an online games. If you haven't take a look at the prize pool from the TI10 (The International) It might change your perception.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on October 21, 2021, 10:52:12 AM

Dice have been one of my favorite gambling game and am thinking of installing a dicing machine in my home just for fun, my 17 years old son is good in playing computer games and am thinking of introducing him to gambling after all he is going to learn it whatever ways if I don't teach him how to handle gambling risk and avoid being addicted. The need to have a dicing machine at home becomes paramount and am wondering which dice machine I can go for?

If you think that your son will be better if you are the one that will reach how to gamble then go on, but it's better if you just observe your son if he is inclined to gamble or just want to be in gaming, not forcing him to learn, it's better to just go online and look for dice game instead of buying him a dicing game, there's a big difference playing in a machine and playing online because you have a house edge to deal with.

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Uhm I don't think you need to install a dice machine? Just hop on to any gambling site and you'd honestly find dice in there (and if you were thinking of introducing dice without the money involved, that ain't gambling brother). If you really want something that's not online, then just get some random old dice and set rules, pretty sure that should work out as well. Now if I was mistaken and you were looking for sites, there's rollbit, roobet, duelbits, just look at the banners of those who post mostly in the gambling section and you'd find a nice gambling website.

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