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September 19, 2021, 03:30:14 PM
#73
As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

Luck-based game but not actually you will just rely on your luck to win.

Wondering how other gamblers are keeping in the long run on dice? It's because of responsible betting. Whatever the amount on their bankroll, as long as they hit a good amount of winning playing on that day, they will stop even they are on a winning streak. In that way, they will feel the profit. They will come back the next day hoping for another lucky shot and will set up a budget for losing the amount. If it hits the bottom, they will stop and will not force to chase that day losses.

That's a strategy to win although in another form.

Dice game is a game of chance, so no matter what strategy you will apply like martingale, you will end up losing if you will not stop playing. Just like you said, you will feel your winnings if you will stop once you hit certain amount of winnings for that day. But if not, expect that you will lose it again. There's no such theory or strategy that can help you with guaranteed winnings in a luck-based game. But yes, you can minimize your losses if you know when to stop.
Yes, that is why I don’t recommend any theory as dice is one of the most popular games of the present time, winning dice game is all a matter of luck and if the player happens to roll the right number he goes home with the winning.
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September 18, 2021, 04:24:56 PM
#72
As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

Luck-based game but not actually you will just rely on your luck to win.

Wondering how other gamblers are keeping in the long run on dice? It's because of responsible betting. Whatever the amount on their bankroll, as long as they hit a good amount of winning playing on that day, they will stop even they are on a winning streak. In that way, they will feel the profit. They will come back the next day hoping for another lucky shot and will set up a budget for losing the amount. If it hits the bottom, they will stop and will not force to chase that day losses.

That's a strategy to win although in another form.

Dice game is a game of chance, so no matter what strategy you will apply like martingale, you will end up losing if you will not stop playing. Just like you said, you will feel your winnings if you will stop once you hit certain amount of winnings for that day. But if not, expect that you will lose it again. There's no such theory or strategy that can help you with guaranteed winnings in a luck-based game. But yes, you can minimize your losses if you know when to stop.
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September 18, 2021, 03:35:29 AM
#71
As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

Luck-based game but not actually you will just rely on your luck to win.

Wondering how other gamblers are keeping in the long run on dice? It's because of responsible betting. Whatever the amount on their bankroll, as long as they hit a good amount of winning playing on that day, they will stop even they are on a winning streak. In that way, they will feel the profit. They will come back the next day hoping for another lucky shot and will set up a budget for losing the amount. If it hits the bottom, they will stop and will not force to chase that day losses.

That's a strategy to win although in another form.
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September 18, 2021, 03:09:51 AM
#70
As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.
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September 18, 2021, 01:53:49 AM
#69
I don't know if there's even a theory for that, it's not like it's going to be that difficult to do it anyways so I don't think that it's of your interest to learn a theory as it's as you've said a simple game so nothing to worry too much about.
I have also been searching for dice theory on the internet and it seems there is no information on that, dice is one of the easiest gambling games, and since is just to roll the dice make it unnecessary to formulate a theory for it and even other gambling games also does not have a known theory. Maybe the ops can give us what he means.
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September 17, 2021, 05:57:46 PM
#68
Indeed, there is some kind of theory or something like a random system that is applied with certain calculations on every number that comes out on dice game, which I also don't really care about, because it still depends on luck that really affects winning or losing when we make bets on any type of game in gambling.
If we use that theory, I am not sure how long we can win based on that theory because practically, we can win on the dice game because of our luck. And if you do not have luck, not just in dice games, but also in the other gambling games because basically, gambling games are entertainment that needs luck when you are playing the games. So rather than search for the theory that we might now get, you can play dice games without any theory, strategy, or method and try to enjoy the games. Who knows, that can give you more chance to win some money.
Luck is the main factor on why we do win on luck based games literally.We can have tons of strategies that we can make use of but doesnt really guarantee out that you can really make profits
or on the things that you are anticipating.I havent hear off about pvp dice but rather on coin flips or something like this because dice game is literally playing against with the house
which we do know that house do always win in the end and thats why its important that we are really aware and not pushing our chances that desperately.
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September 17, 2021, 05:52:15 PM
#67
But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Dice multiplayer? ))
And how does it's looks like? You throwing dice one by one and the person with higher result takes all bankroll or what?) "
And also, dice (the same as spins) is the games without any "strategy" - only your luck depends on the outcome.

So your question doesn't have any sense
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September 15, 2021, 06:17:12 AM
#66
Indeed, there is some kind of theory or something like a random system that is applied with certain calculations on every number that comes out on dice game, which I also don't really care about, because it still depends on luck that really affects winning or losing when we make bets on any type of game in gambling.
If we use that theory, I am not sure how long we can win based on that theory because practically, we can win on the dice game because of our luck. And if you do not have luck, not just in dice games, but also in the other gambling games because basically, gambling games are entertainment that needs luck when you are playing the games. So rather than search for the theory that we might now get, you can play dice games without any theory, strategy, or method and try to enjoy the games. Who knows, that can give you more chance to win some money.
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September 14, 2021, 10:16:49 PM
#65
Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

The truth is that this represents a challenge for any casino, in all the ones I know I don't see any that has that option, however it would be interesting if some developers could take into account this initiative or this multiplayer Dice game. Currently there is a very strong boom in terms of games, really many are shining due to their high popularity, and they are NFT games, there I have not seen that modality either and that I am aware of everything that comes out new, the game DICE where I like playing it the most on es Freebitco.in and on stake.com, these are really the platforms that I like the most due to their environment.

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September 14, 2021, 03:54:03 AM
#64
I think it isn't clarified on OP side regarding this multiplayer game but what YOSHIE shared make sense (somehow) if it's being played by two or more players? I think it wills still be the same aspect of play even if it's on multiplayer game, nothing much new I guess, correct me if I'm wrong.

I think there's something different. When you play a normal dice game, like YOSHIE mentioned, if you cannot guess the range of the outcome between 1 - 4,999 and 5,001 - 9,999, you lose. We cannot tell how these numbers are generated. Right? Which leaves some of us skeptic when we lose. Imagine if there's a multiplayer where player A and B both pick a number between 1 - 9,999, then AI picks a number too. Then the player who picked the closer number is the winner. This sounds like a fair game because winning doesn't just depend on AI result but also on your opponent. That is different from completely playing with the intelligence of an AI (Platforms can even write AI codes to not favour players). Also, there can be as many theory as possible.
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September 13, 2021, 10:23:25 AM
#63
Indeed, there is some kind of theory or something like a random system that is applied with certain calculations on every number that comes out on dice game, which I also don't really care about, because it still depends on luck that really affects winning or losing when we make bets on any type of game in gambling.
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September 13, 2021, 07:57:22 AM
#62
If I remember correctly, the advantage is given by the martingale strategy for both outcomes simultaneously. That is, in fact, you are playing against the fact that you will encounter an abnormally large series of identical results and you will not have enough money for the next bet. That is, mathematically, this is a normal martingale, but your winnings are x2, which gives you an advantage.
However, if you want to try this strategy, check it first on simulators - I tested many different options with different parameters and I'm not sure if I remembered the profitable one.

Now, I quite get it. Indeed, there's no way you could lose in this strategy. But if we are to use Martingale, you don't have to keep multiple accounts just to make money. You don't have to bet on both possibilities in every roll. Martingale is a winning strategy even if you are only using a single account playing against the house. The problem is that it requires one thing, and that is that you have an unbelievably deep pocket that even if you are losing 15 times in a row, you can still double your bet on the next one.

I do not agree with you, I have tried simple Martingale many times and sometimes the result (for example my record 40 times in a row <49.5%) can empty any deposit. The main problem is that potential loss grows much faster than potential profit.
By using multi-martingale you can double the rate of your winnings.

For example, taking a streak from the results of a die roll:

101101010001

For Martingale, you will receive +6 minimum bets.
101101010001
1 -11-1-1---1 = 6

For multymartingale, you will receive +11 minimum bets.
101101010001
1-11-1-1---1 = 6
-1--1-1-111- =6 (it is necessary to take into account the remaining minus, total we get 5)
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September 13, 2021, 04:23:52 AM
#61
I don't know if there's even a theory for that, it's not like it's going to be that difficult to do it anyways so I don't think that it's of your interest to learn a theory as it's as you've said a simple game so nothing to worry too much about.
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September 13, 2021, 03:55:09 AM
#60
Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

As far as my backread is concerned, basically, OP might means how dice game should be played if on multiplayer mode and not on the usual house rules. Just correct me if I misunderstand your concern, OP.

I think it will be no different to other players vs player formats wherein there's a room, with the capacity, of course, waiting for that room to be full, then the game will now start. Rules and gameplay may vary and honestly, we can think lots of it so better just make your own possible way.

But that kind of game system is always targeted by bots and cheats. Another concern of mine is the reputation of the site that will do it as we need to be sure everything is fair especially if our opponent in that room is not running under their system's AI.
Yes, the ops may not know how to put it correctly but I guess he wants to know the probability of a probably fairs system that can be reused as a theory, but the truth is there is no working theory as multiplayer games require each player against the other and not the usual house vs the player way.
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September 13, 2021, 03:14:36 AM
#59
It's too complicated if gambling will install a multiplayer feature when things will be easy from a traditional online dice game, why fix that is not broken, dice game is still very popular for online bettors, and besides it will cost a lot they will hire programmers to install this so-called multiplayer dice,  and there's no guaranty that it will be accepted by the majority of gamblers.
Dice happens to be the most popular in most online casino houses and if the multiplayer feature properly utilizes both the house edge and the player goes happy because it will be probably a fair system.
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#58
Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

As far as my backread is concerned, basically, OP might means how dice game should be played if on multiplayer mode and not on the usual house rules. Just correct me if I misunderstand your concern, OP.

I think it will be no different to other players vs player formats wherein there's a room, with the capacity, of course, waiting for that room to be full, then the game will now start. Rules and gameplay may vary and honestly, we can think lots of it so better just make your own possible way.

But that kind of game system is always targeted by bots and cheats. Another concern of mine is the reputation of the site that will do it as we need to be sure everything is fair especially if our opponent in that room is not running under their system's AI.
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September 12, 2021, 09:14:49 PM
#57
It turns out that having several multi-accounts, you can make several bets on one event (even on opposite outcomes)? It seems to me that once upon a time I personally invented and tested different strategies for myself, and if I am not mistaken, then in such conditions the player can gain an advantage over the casino (I understand that multi-accounts are prohibited, but everyone knows that this prohibition is bypassed).

How so? Please enlighten me more about this possibility. It sounds interesting. I don't intend to use it. I just want to understand because there is a house edge. So if you are betting on >50 and <50 at the same time, there's no way you will lose but there's also no way you could make money. Please correct me.

If I remember correctly, the advantage is given by the martingale strategy for both outcomes simultaneously. That is, in fact, you are playing against the fact that you will encounter an abnormally large series of identical results and you will not have enough money for the next bet. That is, mathematically, this is a normal martingale, but your winnings are x2, which gives you an advantage.
However, if you want to try this strategy, check it first on simulators - I tested many different options with different parameters and I'm not sure if I remembered the profitable one.

Now, I quite get it. Indeed, there's no way you could lose in this strategy. But if we are to use Martingale, you don't have to keep multiple accounts just to make money. You don't have to bet on both possibilities in every roll. Martingale is a winning strategy even if you are only using a single account playing against the house. The problem is that it requires one thing, and that is that you have an unbelievably deep pocket that even if you are losing 15 times in a row, you can still double your bet on the next one.
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September 12, 2021, 02:25:08 PM
#56
But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

In light of what others have said already, I think you need to clarify your question. What do you mean by 'the basic theory to play within a multiplayer'?

Many different versions of classic dice games can be found at casinos, but the basic concept remains the same: players bet on the outcome of a pair of dice. Unlike physical casino, online casinos use a provably fair random number generator instead of dice. It is also possible to play multiplayer versions, in which players compete against each other, but the specific concept of each game will vary.


I do think that the OP does wanna know how will the classic dice game work out when they wanna do multiplayer. I do think that it would be the same the either way and you would just take turns to see who wins and who doesn't at the end of the day.

It's not complicated at all, there are many traditional games as well, I did some online research. Many games with multiple dices and many games with multiple players as well therefore if OP does wanna know about those then here you go : https://funattic.com/dice-games/

But I do think he is just asking about the multiplayer games in gambling platforms online on the site.
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September 12, 2021, 11:23:00 AM
#55
It's too complicated if gambling will install a multiplayer feature when things will be easy from a traditional online dice game, why fix that is not broken, dice game is still very popular for online bettors, and besides it will cost a lot they will hire programmers to install this so-called multiplayer dice,  and there's no guaranty that it will be accepted by the majority of gamblers.
I don't understand why it would be too complicated. You can easily play with several other players at a dice game, it's simple : everyone bets on a range and the house pays the players who have guessed the right outcome. It's just like playing at the Roulette wheel, and almost all casinos are offering roulette games.
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September 12, 2021, 10:39:27 AM
#54

Multiplayer means playing with other gamblers against the house right? I honestly don’t know much about if there’s a theory on this and if its really work because as far as I know, dice game is also a luck game like roulette so your strategies wont work at all, I’d rather enjoy playing than to take this serious, it wont work.

If players like us are not aware of the existence of multiplayer dice games, then this is something interesting for us to explore unfortunately OP did not give us a clue on what this multiplayer dice game is, and on what gambling site can we find it and how can it be played, when he logs in he will be surprised on the reaction and he should give us more details.
I am not sure if he will come back to his thread and explain more details. Maybe he means that we are playing a dice game with the other player together at one table, like playing poker cards. If that is what he means, maybe it will be fun to play together with the other player as we can see how they play and learn something from the opponent. That is my guess, as all of us do not know what he means. But the basic theory to playing a dice game is to be careful to place the money to bet and not greed to chase the win.
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