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Quote from: Darker45 on September 11, 2021, 08:38:28 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 11, 2021, 08:48:16 AM

It turns out that having several multi-accounts, you can make several bets on one event (even on opposite outcomes)? It seems to me that once upon a time I personally invented and tested different strategies for myself, and if I am not mistaken, then in such conditions the player can gain an advantage over the casino (I understand that multi-accounts are prohibited, but everyone knows that this prohibition is bypassed).

How so? Please enlighten me more about this possibility. It sounds interesting. I don't intend to use it. I just want to understand because there is a house edge. So if you are betting on >50 and <50 at the same time, there's no way you will lose but there's also no way you could make money. Please correct me.

If I remember correctly, the advantage is given by the martingale strategy for both outcomes simultaneously. That is, in fact, you are playing against the fact that you will encounter an abnormally large series of identical results and you will not have enough money for the next bet. That is, mathematically, this is a normal martingale, but your winnings are x2, which gives you an advantage.
However, if you want to try this strategy, check it first on simulators - I tested many different options with different parameters and I'm not sure if I remembered the profitable one.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 11, 2021, 09:38:03 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on September 11, 2021, 09:22:35 AM

Multiplayer means playing with other gamblers against the house right? I honestly don’t know much about if there’s a theory on this and if its really work because as far as I know, dice game is also a luck game like roulette so your strategies wont work at all, I’d rather enjoy playing than to take this serious, it wont work.

If players like us are not aware of the existence of multiplayer dice games, then this is something interesting for us to explore unfortunately OP did not give us a clue on what this multiplayer dice game is, and on what gambling site can we find it and how can it be played, when he logs in he will be surprised on the reaction and he should give us more details.

I think OP's question is rather vague- since it opens a plethora of questions that only us members could assume his true intention.

In adherence to this so called "multiplayer dice game", I assume that players assemble which go against the house in some instances. Well, this kind of setup may be beneficial to the players as this calls for camaraderie against the odds/house. Though I still advise that before you gamble, you should always have a budget for the day in order to avoid overspending.

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Quote from: Bitinity on September 12, 2021, 02:18:58 AM

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Quote from: zanezane on September 10, 2021, 11:46:35 AM

It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

You don't understand what the OP was saying because she was not referring to a real multiplayer dice game where people roll the dice and the highest number roller win the bet but she's talking multiplayer dice introduced by an online casino which people have to just select a certain range of number they believe the dice result will be.

In logical understanding the word "multiplayer" refers to a game where you can play with some other players in single game.

No, the multiplayer game is play among two or more people at the same time and under the same settings.

Quote from: Bitinity on September 12, 2021, 02:18:58 AM

Example is the crash game, it is a multiplayer game because many players are betting at the same time in the same betID.

Each individual bet ID is different from each other but I think the crash is not a multiplayer game since it was playing against the house while slots, poker, and blackjack are multiplayer.

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Quote from: zanezane on September 10, 2021, 11:46:35 AM

It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

You don't understand what the OP was saying because she was not referring to a real multiplayer dice game where people roll the dice and the highest number roller win the bet but she's talking multiplayer dice introduced by an online casino which people have to just select a certain range of number they believe the dice result will be.

This is why we need to post the correct questions to avoid getting any invalid information. I also thought this one are not regarding to those gamblers playing with the other. Many suggestions here are correct, hope that OP will read everything. Theory is just a theory and it in not guaranteed, don’t forget this one as well.

Tomorrow is promised so nothing is ever guaranteed but the theory aspect is not theory but it always explains the foundation of a thing.

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It's too complicated if gambling will install a multiplayer feature when things will be easy from a traditional online dice game, why fix that is not broken, dice game is still very popular for online bettors, and besides it will cost a lot they will hire programmers to install this so-called multiplayer dice, and there's no guaranty that it will be accepted by the majority of gamblers.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

I haven't seen any dice games which has a multiplayer mode but even if it does then it would probably be the same.
Single player or multi player doesn't change the gameplay of the game you are playing.
The basic theory remains the same for most of the games. In case of dice you just have to roll the dice and wait for the result.
If the result is in your favour you win and else you lose and it's the same whether you are playing as a single player or a multi player.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on September 10, 2021, 07:56:27 PM

Quote from: zanezane on September 10, 2021, 11:46:35 AM

It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

You don't understand what the OP was saying because she was not referring to a real multiplayer dice game where people roll the dice and the highest number roller win the bet but she's talking multiplayer dice introduced by an online casino which people have to just select a certain range of number they believe the dice result will be.

In logical understanding the word "multiplayer" refers to a game where you can play with some other players in single game. Example is the crash game, it is a multiplayer game because many players are betting at the same time in the same betID. If you say that it is related to select a certain range of number then it should be related to multiplier instead of multiplayer.

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You can only do multiplayer in gaming but not in gambling especially in a dice game where the concept is too easy and there are no skill players the house edge will be absent if the battle is between the two players, but this concept is good if there's a possibility that it will materialize in a real dice game.

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The main concept of multiplayer games is for you to compete against other players, and since dice is a game of chance I don't think it will be fair to set up a player-to-player competition in such a scenario because there will always be that one guy struck with Murphy's Law. Now this concept would work in the sense of competition against players where they compare and contrast wagers and winnings, although this wouldn't work well for the people who aren't high-rollers because whatever happens, they will always be at the bottom of the leaderboard in such scenarios.

Quote from: AicecreaME on September 11, 2021, 12:04:40 PM

I can't see DICE having a multiplayer option, like what's the point? It's so easy to be played solo and gambling sites wouldn't do that because that would reduce the percentage of their bankroll if they are gonna have a feature like that. The current system is YOU vs. THE HOUSE, so whoever wins takes the money, while if it's a multiplayer, it's YOU vs. SOMEBODY and THE HOUSE would be just like a referee, if you know what I mean.

I would say the same but OP didn't specify what he meant by multiplayer because it could be either of the two I mentioned. Then again the former will never work because how would you balance a game that is based on chance? More so compete against other people when there's no real skill to compete with? Wagers and winnings leaderboards however could work in practical application as some gambling sites have already implemented such features but as I said earlier these types of tournaments heavily favor the high-rollers over the stingy ones.

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Quote from: Johnyz on September 11, 2021, 09:22:35 AM

Multiplayer means playing with other gamblers against the house right? I honestly don’t know much about if there’s a theory on this and if its really work because as far as I know, dice game is also a luck game like roulette so your strategies wont work at all, I’d rather enjoy playing than to take this serious, it wont work.

If players like us are not aware of the existence of multiplayer dice games, then this is something interesting for us to explore unfortunately OP did not give us a clue on what this multiplayer dice game is, and on what gambling site can we find it and how can it be played, when he logs in he will be surprised on the reaction and he should give us more details.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 11, 2021, 08:48:16 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

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It turns out that having several multi-accounts, you can make several bets on one event (even on opposite outcomes)? It seems to me that once upon a time I personally invented and tested different strategies for myself, and if I am not mistaken, then in such conditions the player can gain an advantage over the casino (I understand that multi-accounts are prohibited, but everyone knows that this prohibition is bypassed).

How so? Please enlighten me more about this possibility. It sounds interesting. I don't intend to use it. I just want to understand because there is a house edge. So if you are betting on >50 and <50 at the same time, there's no way you will lose but there's also no way you could make money. Please correct me.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

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yes there are pvp dice. the one with the highest number wins. like a user makes a dice challenge and waits for other users to join.

I'm not referring to wagering contests, though. It's not really PVP because you are still playing against the house and yet you are also comparing stats with other players.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 11, 2021, 12:41:08 PM

Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

As to PVP in dice I haven't heard of it. There might be one, who knows? I haven't played in one, though, but it sounds interesting. Rather than play against the house, why not play against another player?

yes there are pvp dice. the one with the highest number wins. like a user makes a dice challenge and waits for other users to join. in duelbits that game
called duel dice i dont know in other casino what is that called. and the numbers coming out from user's client seed so its fair . yeah there really is no theory for that .

I havent tested out this kind of concept on playing dice on where you do against with other player or simply with pvp.I will sneek or have a peek on duelbets about that duel dice you are saying on here.

So far i havent seen one on my entire experience and awareness of this market specially with this kind of pvp dice since mostly that we do saw is about house vs player kind or type of dice.

Im not really that interested though because dice supposed to be instant and not just depending or waiting for other players to take out versus bet on you.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on September 10, 2021, 07:56:27 PM

Quote from: zanezane on September 10, 2021, 11:46:35 AM

It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

You don't understand what the OP was saying because she was not referring to a real multiplayer dice game where people roll the dice and the highest number roller win the bet but she's talking multiplayer dice introduced by an online casino which people have to just select a certain range of number they believe the dice result will be.

This is why we need to post the correct questions to avoid getting any invalid information. I also thought this one are not regarding to those gamblers playing with the other. Many suggestions here are correct, hope that OP will read everything. Theory is just a theory and it in not guaranteed, don’t forget this one as well.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

Dice is the most popular game right now and for the past few years solely because the results can be verified and the house edge is low. I never had too much fun playing dice as compared to slots or sports betting but the results are fair and good for wagering.

Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Not entirely sure what you mean by this statement.

If you want to ask whether multiplayer dice exist, then yes it used to exist earlier at primedice but for some reason was removed later.

Maybe you are wondering how you can play with others the game? The simple answer is you cannot right now. Maybe technically you can sit with your friends and gamble on what the dice will roll next time.

dice remains to be one of the most popular classic games in online casinos. but can he be referring to multiple dice game theory? btw, whatever you have strategy under your sleeves, dice is still luck-based game and that will never change. you can't formulate any equation that will give you sure winnings in this game but you can minimize losses if you want. just stop playing when you are already winning.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on September 10, 2021, 04:49:56 AM

AFAIK, there's no mutiplayer in dice. If that's what you're asking then just keep loving dice despite having no multiplayer on it but you can still enjoy it on your own.

I am not 100% sure what OP meant by multiplayer but I think there are dice games which are basically multiplayer. For example, there are live dice games. That is a multiplayer dice game because you are not the only player who is in the game. Other players are also placing bets on the same roll that you are placing your bet on.

Probably of what he meant about multiplayer is that he can really play against any other dice players that are active on that time. The same as other betting mechanisms, there are the other players that actively bets depending on the game but I think that's not what multiplayer means because there should be an interaction with other players like players-to-players too.

Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

As to PVP in dice I haven't heard of it. There might be one, who knows? I haven't played in one, though, but it sounds interesting. Rather than play against the house, why not play against another player?

I don't know also but afaik, there's none in existence. Maybe another project that's building a decentralized casino can do something like this.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

Dice is the most popular game right now and for the past few years solely because the results can be verified and the house edge is low. I never had too much fun playing dice as compared to slots or sports betting but the results are fair and good for wagering.

Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Not entirely sure what you mean by this statement.

If you want to ask whether multiplayer dice exist, then yes it used to exist earlier at primedice but for some reason was removed later.

Maybe you are wondering how you can play with others the game? The simple answer is you cannot right now. Maybe technically you can sit with your friends and gamble on what the dice will roll next time.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

As to PVP in dice I haven't heard of it. There might be one, who knows? I haven't played in one, though, but it sounds interesting. Rather than play against the house, why not play against another player?

yes there are pvp dice. the one with the highest number wins. like a user makes a dice challenge and waits for other users to join. in duelbits that game called duel dice i dont know in other casino what is that called. and the numbers coming out from user's client seed so its fair . yeah there really is no theory for that .

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

If that is about the basic theory to play dice, you only need to place your bet and push the button. It is so simple as that and even you do not have to bother about the theory, the strategy or else. The important is you know how to play the dice game and how much money you will use to bet and let the website do the rest.

You know that dice game is one of the gambling games based on luck, so no matter what your strategy, theory or method is, if you do not have luck, you will hard to win instead of losing your money.

You're right, he overuses formulas, theories, and mathematical calculations. While the dice if in a physical casino bet and throw, then at an online casino it's even easier to bet then click the button. I was just thinking about how the OP played a one-turn dice gamble and finished off the theory.

Moreover nowadays there is a lot of luck in casinos, so we just need to bet and forget the theory. Enjoy gambling like entertainment, not to learn theory.

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I can't see DICE having a multiplayer option, like what's the point? It's so easy to be played solo and gambling sites wouldn't do that because that would reduce the percentage of their bankroll if they are gonna have a feature like that. The current system is YOU vs. THE HOUSE, so whoever wins takes the money, while if it's a multiplayer, it's YOU vs. SOMEBODY and THE HOUSE would be just like a referee, if you know what I mean.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Can you elaborate more? Do you mean playing dice in a multiplayer mode?

It's been in some discussion before that it's hard to make a multiplayer mode in luck-based games because of flaws. First, trust issues as we don't know if we are playing against a real human or bot. Second, the eligibility of players as the room won't be filled right away if only a few are interested. And last, in luck-based games, gamblers are not comfortable playing against a fellow player as they are not used to it.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Multiplayer means playing with other gamblers against the house right? I honestly don’t know much about if there’s a theory on this and if its really work because as far as I know, dice game is also a luck game like roulette so your strategies wont work at all, I’d rather enjoy playing than to take this serious, it wont work.

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