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newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
October 13, 2014, 10:18:27 AM
now they are using the technique called "cooling the mark".

http://www.tau.ac.il/~algazi/mat/Goffman--Cooling.htm :

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The con is said to be a good racket in the United States only because most Americans are willing, nay eager, to make easy money, and will engage in action that is less than legal in order to do so The typical play has typical phases. The potential sucker is first spotted and one member of the working team (called the outside man, steerer, or roper) arranges to make social contact with him. The confidence of the mark is won, and he is given an opportunity to invest his money in a gambling venture which he understands to have been fixed in his favor The venture, of course, is fixed, but not in his favor. The mark is permitted to win some money and then persuaded to invest more. There is an "accident" or "mistake," and the mark loses his total investment. The operators then depart in a ceremony that is called the blowoff or sting. They leave the mark but take his money. The mark is expected to go on his way, a little wiser and a lot poorer.

Sometimes, however, a mark is not quite prepared to accept his loss as a gain in experience and to say and do nothing about his venture. He may feel moved to complain to the police or to chase after the operators. In the terminology of the trade, the mark may squawk, beef, or come through. From the operators' point of view, this kind of behavior is bad for business. It gives the members of the mob a bad reputation with such police as have not. yet been fixed and with marks who have not yet been taken. In order to avoid this adverse publicity, an additional phase is sometimes added at the end of the play. It is called cooling the mark out After the blowoff has occurred, one of the operators stays with the mark and makes an effort to keep the anger of the mark within manageable and sensible proportions. The operator stays behind his team‑mates in the capacity of what might be called a cooler and exercises upon the mark the art of consolation. An attempt is made to define the situation for the mark in a way that makes it easy for him to accept the inevitable and quietly go home. The mark is given instruction in the philosophy of taking a loss.

you are a fucking ice cube if i've ever seen one!  Wink
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
October 13, 2014, 10:14:36 AM
Just got off the phone With Janelle and she states that she hasn't talked to Jeremy in a while, and I will call her later to get more information....

Let's get this full thing solved.


good work bud!   Cool   ~are we a community or what ?
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
October 13, 2014, 10:12:14 AM

Yes and now they are using the technique called "cooling the mark".
Bitcoinsports.eu did the same. Paying people off little by little to keep feelings calm until eventually people tire.
.....


Tradefortress comes to mind!  Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 683
Merit: 500
October 13, 2014, 10:06:07 AM
Just got off the phone With Janelle and she states that she hasn't talked to Jeremy in a while, and I will call her later to get more information....

Let's get this full thing solved.

Good work!

Thanks!
I would disclose her phone number, but since this doesn't have to deal with her, I will leave her information anonymous Wink
legendary
Activity: 930
Merit: 1010
October 13, 2014, 10:05:23 AM
Just got off the phone With Janelle and she states that she hasn't talked to Jeremy in a while, and I will call her later to get more information....

Let's get this full thing solved.

Good work!
hero member
Activity: 683
Merit: 500
October 13, 2014, 10:03:42 AM
Just got off the phone With Janelle and she states that she hasn't talked to Jeremy in a while, and I will call her later to get more information....

Let's get this full thing solved.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
October 13, 2014, 09:43:04 AM
DICE NINJA :

pgp
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
October 13, 2014, 09:34:11 AM
DMF & Toad,

You guys know how much you owe me and *just in case* you don't have the emergency withdrawal addresses handy:

BTC 1NTsoXtZeKF6eLxPrSFL5WXZ99yG9VL4SG
LTC LSN43MSvQKRnGNCcdYEuw4xZEHCQJ5KR57
DRK XmDfYWbtMEqdpF7ptDqWZ3b5CywWejz19A

I am pleased to see that the community has yet again proven that totally anonymity is almost impossible to maintain, especially when you disappear with ~1 million dollars.  I am also pleased to see that you've wisely decided to begin the refund process.  I suggest speeding up that effort to avoid future unpleasantness.  You can communicate with me at [email protected]
member
Activity: 100
Merit: 10
Vires in numeris.
October 13, 2014, 09:32:21 AM
I might as well join into the club. I'm Steve (2474) on the site. I have
made a single deposit

6e54c739a9d37825d94bd0ca9791939bbc04b45a3db8dc79c84a4f482a44d8c1

of 175.88003028 BTC on Oct 2nd and then withdrew 137.5003 BTC in
5 transactions on Oct 9th.

5ea5e5d957bcd61d4dc3c78ed91e8f0d0d6a107e861028a492e67a9ec87014a2
c6ddde0478b801037f5706099da7948addfedae78ccc471dbe62afd1788ea653
d7b4e04ad383a672633a7db67b2b6b12acb3435e30555f75c6d126985113b99c
bde9382fb1ff8f3016eac73aa900f264c2b2085f0f734f0dd770dca6a006c20d
f94f7e2c82e276eddb9f4f5a033ea5b7064d88dd7be3406b9fe96e71165346da

I wanted to withdraw everything, but the website didn't let me to. I believed
the hot wallet was empty and it didn't seem to add larger withdrawals to
a queue.

I had an investment profit of ~15-17 BTC, lets say 15 BTC, which amounts
to 53,37973028 BTC left on the site which was not invested but remained as
a simple balance. I would be very happy if those would find their way
back to me.

I set 1CDz7eZXKLTydt2SUBPSwtwS6GcnfXh6Vd as an emergency address
several times, but the input field was empty afterwards. If it's only a UI
problem you probably still have this one. But you are also free to use the
address that I used to the deposit or any of the addresses I used to withdraw.
sr. member
Activity: 467
Merit: 250
October 13, 2014, 09:15:19 AM
This one also scam ? Damn where i can gamble now . I was away only 1-2 months and i come back to all this shit going on Cheesy .
newbie
Activity: 48
Merit: 0
October 13, 2014, 09:13:32 AM
If the ID and the theft is confirmed, Jeremy Hise (Chappaqua, New York), I'd loooooove to learn more about what will become of him.

I'm not in the US. If it were to happen in my country, I'd TOTALLY go ahead and do what's legally possible : at least let the employers know what he's accused of and investigate, let the family and their employers know (also include school directors if he has kids). If they're wise, they'd investigate... and take proper actions. No matter my situation, no matter how much I'm involved in the story, that's everyone's right.

Nothing would please me more -again if that's him- than to know he's going down, deep down, bite the dust, possibly killing himself. We will live in an unfair world and it may no be so nice. There's a chance -again if that's him- that he will do even more damage and go on a killing spree.

Justice in so-called developed countries is way too gentle with repeat offenders (thieves) : nothing will be more fair than to have at least one of his hand cut off. 
full member
Activity: 152
Merit: 100
October 13, 2014, 08:07:34 AM
nobody managed to reach this girl?

i can call tomorrow ~ fwiw  Wink *did someone look up the schools number?

Nobody should be bothering her since he has already been identified. If himself or other people involved don't come in and clear up what is going on, I would guess the next step is taking legal action or at least contacting the authorities in NY.

Last time I have been scammed I managed to get a phone number related to the scammer. It was his ex girl friend number. She gave me more information than I could ever get from him!

I'm not sure that the emergency withdraw was set up on my account, you can use this adress 1JbEW2NYiWdvVpuT1H1iVpS1f7gNXjQ9Mx
Account ID yhomega, amount to refund 4 BTC+ investment profit https://blockchain.info/address/1JUZDnqCpdKSiqgHgWzsNc28QT7s9YupSp

legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1912
The Concierge of Crypto
October 13, 2014, 06:35:43 AM
I wasn't invested, and I didn't even play, but that "cooling the mark" thing doesn't work with me if I had been. Also depends on the amount. 1 BTC, maybe not so much, but 100~1000 BTC, then we're talking about making use of some skillz... (it's no secret I'm in the military.)
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
October 13, 2014, 06:32:41 AM
Allright, here goes nothing

I'm Day[9], most of you will probably remember me from trying to sell my 9 handle.
Unfortuneatly I didn't expect this, so I've got no real proof of 'really' being me, but I've had some conversations with bay about him being a mod in the old dogedice, and with AK about stealing my invest money :p

I've had nothing left on darkdice, didn't know the 'other site' but I did have 10 LTC and 1 BTC -9a10% invest loss, so 0.91 btc, give or take a few mbtc, I haven't been keeping an eye on it the days before the shutdown.
Since I'm also no wonder with these transactions and I didn't have an emergency address (even though I mentioned this ALOT to dmf), I'm still gonna try to reclaim my pity 1 bitcoin, which is about half of my total cryptomonais :/
I'm not sure which address I used to put the coin on, I think it was directly from a resellersite (litebit.eu), but this one is one of mine.

1LsdeQ5mhiZh7g3AAbSS7GSBKQScCDvsro

Shame it had to come to this DMF, but I'd still hugely appriciate getting my coin back! Thanks Sad

Disclaimer, I'm also not the day9 e-sports figure, I just needed something cool to do with the 9 handle :p
sr. member
Activity: 329
Merit: 250
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
October 13, 2014, 05:54:51 AM
now they are using the technique called "cooling the mark".

http://www.tau.ac.il/~algazi/mat/Goffman--Cooling.htm :

Quote
The con is said to be a good racket in the United States only because most Americans are willing, nay eager, to make easy money, and will engage in action that is less than legal in order to do so The typical play has typical phases. The potential sucker is first spotted and one member of the working team (called the outside man, steerer, or roper) arranges to make social contact with him. The confidence of the mark is won, and he is given an opportunity to invest his money in a gambling venture which he understands to have been fixed in his favor The venture, of course, is fixed, but not in his favor. The mark is permitted to win some money and then persuaded to invest more. There is an "accident" or "mistake," and the mark loses his total investment. The operators then depart in a ceremony that is called the blowoff or sting. They leave the mark but take his money. The mark is expected to go on his way, a little wiser and a lot poorer.

Sometimes, however, a mark is not quite prepared to accept his loss as a gain in experience and to say and do nothing about his venture. He may feel moved to complain to the police or to chase after the operators. In the terminology of the trade, the mark may squawk, beef, or come through. From the operators' point of view, this kind of behavior is bad for business. It gives the members of the mob a bad reputation with such police as have not. yet been fixed and with marks who have not yet been taken. In order to avoid this adverse publicity, an additional phase is sometimes added at the end of the play. It is called cooling the mark out After the blowoff has occurred, one of the operators stays with the mark and makes an effort to keep the anger of the mark within manageable and sensible proportions. The operator stays behind his team‑mates in the capacity of what might be called a cooler and exercises upon the mark the art of consolation. An attempt is made to define the situation for the mark in a way that makes it easy for him to accept the inevitable and quietly go home. The mark is given instruction in the philosophy of taking a loss.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
October 13, 2014, 05:40:41 AM
Wow this took an unexpected turn...

username was: okncyolficsvthum
emergency address set to: 1QG4zFVqY5aBU9ENVynqmzTyRcBrySShmH
amount: 1 btc invested + ~0.5 btc investment profit.

Hope to see (some of) that back.
member
Activity: 77
Merit: 10
October 13, 2014, 05:27:33 AM
while I was trying to recover balance lost at dice ninja to pay my bills, I lost this one http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=13BwHBbLWu83NFZGbWZDp58VvFDgYwBSYR

so i'm not sure if dice ninja should compensate for the loss too.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
October 13, 2014, 05:23:39 AM
I guess that seeing the pictures of you child on an internet forum after stealing 1000+ BTC didn't help him/them to calm down.

Do you really think they'll stop ppl you've stolen from with 10 % ?
legendary
Activity: 930
Merit: 1010
October 13, 2014, 05:20:08 AM
That's great and all

I think I would have respected them more if they had just vanished.

But to wait this long before making any kind of contact is just unbelievable.

Even if they lost access to their forum account I'm sure there's some way they could have got the word out. Make a new forum account. Chat on any of the other sites where they know people. Anything but just sitting silent this long leaving everyone to sweat.

My guess is they got cold feet, perhaps someone got an accurate dox on them and they wanted to paint themselves as victims and return a small % of the coins rather than exit the community as confirmed thieves. Otherwise I don't see why it would take them this long to reach out.

Yes and now they are using the technique called "cooling the mark".
Bitcoinsports.eu did the same. Paying people off little by little to keep feelings calm until eventually people tire.

They could ofc just reopen the site. Disable betting and let people withdraw. Except he's scared now beacuse of the accurate dox and people end up hurt for less money.
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