Topic: 🎲 DiceSites.com - List of dice sites w/ statistics, graphs & verifiers - page 4. (Read 42116 times)

it is now,unless my eyes betray me
Primedice was upgraded to Primedice5 version during this week,so maybe their wagered total wasn't on par
other than that there should be no reson for it not to be top 10,it is topping the charts currently,by the way
wonder how Bustadice is 0.7% EV investors profit,they seem to be -5 btc down total,rough times

Why is PrimeDice not on your weekly top 10 now?

Thank you

Pretty cool you could initially build that for a school project hehe

Dicesites.com is meant to be an overview of the most popular dice sites, so I could only add your site in the future if it's already more popular. Best of luck though.

I think it is pretty common to see the same player or players making the same bets, especially when dice bots are in play. Almost every site I visit has their regulars, although they come and go, some return after ages, some move on elsewhere. Huge JPs like that do tend to attract as they're +EV like you said. Some admins also openly gamble on their casinos, I see nothing wrong with that, although others might say conflict of interest, it proves to me the site is good enough for admins to play at.

Keep up the good comments, admin. Thread is almost 4 years old!

There are definitely others. Right now user "636296" is going for the jackpot. Obviously you still have to risk a decent amount of money, so it's not like there are that many going for it.

Somehow the jackpot got reset to ~5.6 BTC after the JP win. I am not sure what rules they have for that. However, with the 12 required sevens, it's still EV+ right now.

(Note they can change the required sevens to 13, it is unclear when they do this.)


Chances are very high that this is indeed the same user running a bot on 2 accounts to increase their odds (assuming that there is an account-bet-limit.) I am not sure if that's allowed per nitrogen TOS, but that would be his problem lol. If Nitrogen wanted to fake players, it seems like getting 2 more random IDs would be pretty easy.



To be clear: of course Nitrogen (or any dice site) could fake players And I do appreciate you reporting this, I definitely take it serious and in the past I have analyzed many bets on other sites very carefully. I was planning to do the same before I saw the jackpot. But overall, I really don't think it's far-fetched to imagine people are taking a EV+ opportunity.

Personally I didn't try to go for the JP, because there is still some risk you don't win it and with the required 13 times you would still have to risk a decent sum. That being said, I even got a PM from someone after my first reply to ask some details. And he actually did give it a try with the autobet option (unfortunately he didn't win the JP though.) While it might be only 3-10 players going for it (from time to time), constantly betting 0.001 definitely increases their total wager. If someone hits the JP again and when it's not EV+ anymore, I certainly expect the wager to be lower again.

This would be understandable if I saw multiple people rolling on their site for this but every time I’m on there I literally only see one user (4938518) betting. Looks like everyone else bets less than 0.001, and you can actually tell that it’s a real user playing.

Not saying they’re betting on their own dice for sure, but it just seems too fishy. Furthermore, the “player” 4938519 seems to have hit the jackpot yesterday but they’re still betting the exact same way...it’s all too strange that the only player betting like that wins the jackpot and continues to do so. Is it just me, or do others think the same? I mean, I literally never see anyone playing there yet they’re somehow beating even PD in their weekly wager volume.

EDIT: looks like they actually have 2 bots running, 4938518 and 4938519. What are the chances that users that close together are both wagering the same way? This just keeps getting weirder and weirder...

But this is only just numbers there, you are not going to hit it exactly there unless you are really lucky on betting that. I tried it once but of course not hit 7 for 13 times but tried it roll all day but got nothing, still losing much of my balance. Make the exact  same deposit again and still can't do this thing. Double balance but nothing like this jackpot can be hit

What do you think about for your "Daily invested" chart, that you subtract the "Daily profit"? As it's a lot more interesting to see net investments/divestments rather than (net investments + profit)  


Awesome site, btw :d

Normally Nitrogen doesn't have that much wagered, only since ~10 days or so. I understand that looks fishy together with that specific bet amount, but there is actually a good reason It is currently EV+ to bet on Nitrogen because of their jackpot. You need to have a 7 in the result for 13 times in a row. So on average you would lose the following amount:

1/(0.3439^13) = 1062629.12315 rolls.
1062629.12315 *0.001*0.01 = BTC10.626

While the jackpot right now is BTC18.74, so the player has a positive edge to bet!

Note there is a minimum bet amount which explains the bets you are seeing




TBH, I am actually considering to even put up a bot myself lol.

NLNico - Im pretty sure that Nitrogensports wagers themselves constantly on their site, if you check the all bets tab on their site you'll see that there is ALWAYS someone betting 0.001 over and over again from the same accounts, no matter what time of day. This explains how their wager amount is so high compared to other sites on dicesites.com. I rarely see anyone else play there. Might be a good idea to look into this and possibly remove nitrogen from dicesites until they can prove otherwise, as it doesn't seem like its too accurate for the front page. I dont know anyone that actually plays at Nitrogen for dice  

It's also impossible to actually see what users wager on their site as they make it so that you cannot click on user accounts to see their wager amount. Seems like its almost impossible to actually verify whether bets are legitimate or not on there.

Hi NLNico

We have just released our shiny new dice game on https://www.stakeabit.com, as a master of Dice games we would love to get your feedback and thoughts on areas of improvement?

Kind Regards

Scott
 

Hi Ethan,

Yes, like I said in my previous post, I am glad that you are working there now. It does seem like support is much better lately, so I re-added SafeDice. Obviously I hope you and Sam can keep up the quicker support

NLNico,

I wanted to introduce myself to you, my name is Ethan and I'm the new Sr. Mod/Support over at SafeDice.com. I've been working with Sam, the site owner here for a few weeks now and we've been working hard to get support up to par with the sites reputation here recently. So far, things have been running smoothly and response times have been reduced significantly for both BCT posts as well as email inquiries. SD chat has picked up as well recently due to better support response times, which has increased overall trust in players I've noticed that SD has been off the DiceSites front page for a little while now, is there anything we can do to get listed back on there? A few players have been asking us about this, and I think that it would be in our best interest to work with you to be re-listed on the site. Any input on this subject (or any others) would be much appreciated, and I look forward to hopefully working with you on this!

- Ethan (SDmod)
@ SafeDice.com

is there a way to see the sites tracked that aren't on the front page?

Well bustabit isn't really a dice site. On new version of my site I made a filter so you can still show it, but unfortunately I didn't work on it for over a year. One day.. lol.

Bustadice was relatively new. I only add popular sites that have been around for a while (even though trusted Ryan is auditor on there.) However in less than 2 weeks bustadice will be 6 months old, so I just added it to frontpage





PS, on an unrelated note, there was an issue with the bitsler verifier for the game "multicolor" where I calculated the correct roll result but incorrect color/payout multiplier for specific rolls (it seems mostly roll 8-11.5); this is fixed now.

PS2, I noticed SafeDice hired a support guy, so that is great to see I will just observe for a bit more and then re-add them if it looks like their support is really improved.

Why not list bustabit and bustadice on the front page?

Thanks for reporting. Right now https://bustadice.com says:


So I am curious whether it's me or them

Bustadice stats seem to be broken, they've been showing 0 for everything except bankroll since March 1st.

https://dicesites.com/bustadice

They don't have a "total wagered" statistic so I can't add them. Besides that, they had a bit of scammy bonus so that could be another reason for me to not add them (but I didn't read all details.)



However, all of that has nothing to do with provably fair. I guess you might just be talking about a provably fair verifier? They could be still perfectly provably fair (I didn't check yet.) On quick look they do use a nonce-implementation and that generally is really provably fair. Just make sure to verify your bets, their third-party verifier seems fine: https://codepen.io/anon/pen/bwJLjj

What do you mean? I do not think that is the reason why they are not on the list. Bte their bet can be verified, where do you get this info about their site is not provably fair? I played there before and everything is just smooth. There is reason why their site is not on the list, the reasonable thing is they do not have huge wagered amount Because on dicesites.com they categorized sites into 5 different way, total wagered, total bets, opening time, max payout and total invested, i do not think duckdice meet this conditions