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Topic: Did Allied troops rape 285,000 German women in WWII? (Read 1727 times)

legendary
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Rape was used as a weapon by every side in the WW2. The Nazis and Japs started it, provoking retaliation from the opposing parties. The Allies (especially the Americans and the French) gave a racial angle to it, by encouraging black soldiers to rape German, Japanese and Italian women.
legendary
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Well the allied forces were never the 'good guys' in that war, at best they were the lesser of two evils (even that is stretching it). Now and again they would've needed to vent out the rage/hatred/whatnot within themselves in any number of ways available to them at the time.
sr. member
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In war rape happens, it is an unpleasant truth that no one wants to see applied to "Their side" but we would be stupid & naive to think allied soldiers never did this. Of course they did. What I am puzzled about & what I think destroys the impact of this is putting such a precise number on it is always going have people crying falsehood. Why not just say "Thousands" as there's no way we can ever really know how many.
legendary
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Unfortunately since war has existed, rape has also been something that comes right along with it. It has happened before and still continues to this day. When your job is to explode people's heads all day, rape does not seem all that bad in comparison.

True that 100%.
Also, in such bad times, sex for a loaf of bread might be more the norm, than the exception.  Someone later might reframe that to be "rape" because it was under duress, when it was more transactional. 

Really nightmarish thing, war.   

Better to be thankful that such is not our lot, than to split off one tiny aspect - rape - and  use it for current politically correct and manipulative goals.
member
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Unfortunately since war has existed, rape has also been something that comes right along with it. It has happened before and still continues to this day. When your job is to explode people's heads all day, rape does not seem all that bad in comparison.

True that 100%.
legendary
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Only women are allowed to join army, problem solved  Grin

There is a sizable number of women in prison on charges of statutory rape. Hell, there are cases of women prison officials in charge of juvenile prisons being charged with sexual misconduct as well.

Statutory rape isn't exactly the same as violent rape. Statutory rape usually has the consent of the underage party, where forcible rape does not. Statutory rape, even though consent is given, is usually a case of the state saying that the underage party doesn't have the ability to give consent, so the consent isn't legitimate. So I don't think the analogy transfers very well.
sr. member
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Only women are allowed to join army, problem solved  Grin

There is a sizable number of women in prison on charges of statutory rape. Hell, there are cases of women prison officials in charge of juvenile prisons being charged with sexual misconduct as well.
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
Only women are allowed to join army, problem solved  Grin
hero member
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Warfare isn't that different from how it was during viking times; rape and pillage. Don't know if the number is correct but many women sure were raped, same in Vietnam and same in the middle east and will stay same for a good while..
legendary
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There is a saying "he who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind". Nazi started the World War II so in a way they are responsible for what happened later to many nations. And I'm not talking only about raping and killing but also for destruction of many cites, art pieces, and so on. Of course what nazi had started is no excuse for raping done by Allied troops.
285,000 raped women seems like a lot, so i'm not totally convinced it was so high number. The method that Dr Gebhardt used is highly implausible.


I dont blame the Germans, I only blame Hitler for the World War. Soldiers are only doing what has been ordered to them.
There is a reason the "men are bad, bad, bad" meme is being pushed around right now.  Namely the meme that "a quarter of women on college campuses have been sexually assaulted" which was a lie from the beginning, has been thouroughly debunked.  And the lies of the nice little girl named Jackie have been exposed.

So...let's talk about rape in WWII, shall we?

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hero member
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There is a saying "he who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind". Nazi started the World War II so in a way they are responsible for what happened later to many nations. And I'm not talking only about raping and killing but also for destruction of many cites, art pieces, and so on. Of course what nazi had started is no excuse for raping done by Allied troops.
285,000 raped women seems like a lot, so i'm not totally convinced it was so high number. The method that Dr Gebhardt used is highly implausible.


I dont blame the Germans, I only blame Hitler for the World War. Soldiers are only doing what has been ordered to them.
newbie
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There sure was lots of rape, there always is in war.

How did they came up with that number?
legendary
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There is a saying "he who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind". Nazi started the World War II so in a way they are responsible for what happened later to many nations. And I'm not talking only about raping and killing but also for destruction of many cites, art pieces, and so on. Of course what nazi had started is no excuse for raping done by Allied troops.
285,000 raped women seems like a lot, so i'm not totally convinced it was so high number. The method that Dr Gebhardt used is highly implausible.

I'm sorry, but Nazis are not to blame for American soldiers raping. That's a copout of immense proportions. You're responsible for your own actions, regardless of what circumstances brought you to where you are. The sin of these crimes rest solely on the people who used force on innocent civilians, without exception.
sr. member
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When Berlin fell and the Soviets made their way into town, they raped the leftover women by the millions. There were so many men of different generations wiped out by Hitler going for broke that there was a severe shortage of men to go around after the war's end. I simply don't know how Germany turned the page and rebuilt everything and made their way out of that situation. It must've been really tough turning that thing around.

Millions raped, and millions more starved to death etc. in allied POW camps.  From a post I made in the documentary thread:

'Adolf Hitler - The Greatest Story NEVER Told' Parts 1-27 @TGSNTtv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g

Very good story.  The level of atrocity and betrayal on the part of the allies, especially Russia is almost unbelievable.  As well as the amazing cowardice of the British and U.S. to stop it.
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Assuming that 280,000 were rapped it means on ave 6 000 could have fallen pregnant. Imagine the emotional clusterfuck that must have been.
legendary
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When Berlin fell and the Soviets made their way into town, they raped the leftover women by the millions. There were so many men of different generations wiped out by Hitler going for broke that there was a severe shortage of men to go around after the war's end. I simply don't know how Germany turned the page and rebuilt everything and made their way out of that situation. It must've been really tough turning that thing around.
sr. member
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War is social cannibalism, it exacerbates all types of depraved behavior. Look at posttraumatic stress that always follows in its wake. To think there is any moral victory to be gained in war is naive. There are always despicable atrocities inflicted by both sides.
legendary
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I heard the same thing about the Russians and I'm sure some of these stories is true. Were all soldiers like than? Of course not! Germans also raped women, especially the ones that looked "aryan".

Did anybody else notice that the author's name is Miriam?  Lips sealed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II
sr. member
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I heard the same thing about the Russians and I'm sure some of these stories is true. Were all soldiers like than? Of course not! Germans also raped women, especially the ones that looked "aryan".

Did anybody else notice that the author's name is Miriam?  Lips sealed
hero member
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war changes people a lot .. and makes them do terrible things ..
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