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Topic: Did Allied troops rape 285,000 German women in WWII? - page 2. (Read 1727 times)

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If it was WW-II, most of the perpetrators would either be dead or almost dead.
There are other war crimes (including the US war on Iraq) which must be investigated and the perpetrators of war crimes be punished.
legendary
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Forget if this woman is a feminist, this is the fucking daily mail, you guys outside the UK don't realise this but they constantly make up shit to cause trouble and blatantly write lies.  That being said rape and other crimes happens all the time in war, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest which is precisely why I think it's wrong to make martyrs out of veterans who fight for the state because you're justifying murder no matter how you look at it. When you guy one side with guns the ability to act with impunity and not allow the civilians to fight back this is the result, coddling veterans is just something that nations do to help themselves sleep at night and disregard the fact they've murdered thousands of people.

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I know feminist talking about rape is the most annoying thing ever, but she does have some truth. In war there is always opportunity to take advantage of the weak, and rape is pretty much the result of scared innocent civilians facing men with guns. No doubt was there rape in WW2.

No one is denying that soldiers were raping in WW2 across the globe but the question is: Did Allied troops rape 285 000 German women?
I'm not going to discuss if feminist is annoying or not but its about the scale and the method that Dr Gebhardt used to measure the rape occurrence
legendary
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I know feminist talking about rape is the most annoying thing ever, but she does have some truth. In war there is always opportunity to take advantage of the weak, and rape is pretty much the result of scared innocent civilians facing men with guns. No doubt was there rape in WW2.
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There is a saying "he who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind". Nazi started the World War II so in a way they are responsible for what happened later to many nations. And I'm not talking only about raping and killing but also for destruction of many cites, art pieces, and so on. Of course what nazi had started is no excuse for raping done by Allied troops.
285,000 raped women seems like a lot, so i'm not totally convinced it was so high number. The method that Dr Gebhardt used is highly implausible.
legendary
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Unfortunately since war has existed, rape has also been something that comes right along with it. It has happened before and still continues to this day. When your job is to explode people's heads all day, rape does not seem all that bad in comparison.
Yeah, when you put it like that it doesn't seem all that bad now does it.. Tongue Seriously tho, I can't imagine doing any of the above so I really can't relate to anyone that has seen active duty where they've had to do the dirty deeds of killing and bare the mental destruction that such a deed leads to. It's just terrible what these guys have to do and what the results of this climate are. And, then to be affected by all this for the rest of your life is unreal to us that have been blessed to have avoided the conflicts or were lucky enough not to be conscripted into any of them. We all have our troubles but I'll keep mine rather than having to have been a party to war in anything but a taxpaying capacity.
legendary
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Unfortunately since war has existed, rape has also been something that comes right along with it. It has happened before and still continues to this day. When your job is to explode people's heads all day, rape does not seem all that bad in comparison.
legendary
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There was no doubt that Private Blake W. Mariano of the 191st Tank Battalion was a brave man. As part of the American Army's 45th Infantry Division, he had killed many Germans as he fought through Africa, Italy and southern France, before finally, in March 1945, he and his Sherman tank had crossed the Rhine into Germany.

By April 15, 1945, Mariano had been away from his home in New Mexico for nearly three years. A father of three, the 29-year-old was divorced, although he did have a girlfriend in England.

His loved ones, however, were far from his mind that evening. During the day, his unit had successfully overrun the large village of Lauf on the edge of the Black Forest in south-western Germany, and Mariano decided it was time to celebrate.

Accompanied by another American private, Mariano went out drinking. After finding a well-stocked cellar, the two men quickly became inebriated on cognac, at which point they went looking to complete their evening.

They found what they wanted in an air raid shelter under the town's castle. Huddled there were 17 villagers, two of whom were children.

Mariano pointed his rifle at a young woman called Elfriede. Aged just 21, Elfriede worked in an office, and had a fiancé who was away fighting. Mariano took her outside and raped her. After he had finished, his companion did the same.

Still not sated, Mariano returned to the shelter and chose a 41-year-old woman called Martha. When it became apparent that she was menstruating, Mariano shot her. It would take Martha until the following morning to die.

In a final act of savagery, Mariano selected one more woman, a 54-year-old shopkeeper called Babette, who he also raped. His 'entertainment' now over, Mariano finally returned to his tank.

The following morning, Martha's husband returned to the village after being discharged from the Army. He might have thought that he and his wife were now safe, having survived six long years of war.

As soon as he had discovered what had happened, the widower went straight to the Americans, who immediately launched an investigation.

Just over three weeks later, on May 8, Mariano was arrested and charged. In his defence, he claimed not to remember a thing. The villagers of Lauf would have no such problem. What Mariano had done in a few hours that one night would remain with them for decades.

More...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3011930/Did-Allied-troops-rape-285-000-German-women-s-shocking-claim-new-book-German-feminist-exposing-war-crime-slandering-heroes.html
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Just to be clear, this writer is a feminazi that doesn't like Brits or Americans so this whole assertion could be bunk but if not, then the 'greatest generation' as they're know here in the state could be something else altogether.
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