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Topic: Did anyone's technical analysis correctly call the drop from $13 to $5.75? (Read 2446 times)

hero member
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Seal Cub Clubbing Club
I did via non-technical analysis https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economic-equilibrium-and-roi-for-miners-34978

And we're back up to nearly 8 again

Here's more of my non-technical analysis: plateau at 4-5$ USD by the middle to end of next week.

We'll see.  I hope you're right since it'd be nice to pick some more up.
sr. member
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FirstBits: 168Bc
Right now, the problems we had were mostly caused by stupidity, and no serious attempts to disrupt the network have been done.

Is this fact or opinion?
member
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Before last drop here was calculated long-term stable price of BTC.
legendary
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Borsche
I can almost bet that much more serious events will happen in the 3-4 years timeframe. The higher the stakes in the BTC project, the more sophisticated attacks will become. Right now, the problems we had were mostly caused by stupidity, and no serious attempts to disrupt the network have been done. We have seen nothing yet.
legendary
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If enough people believe a particular pattern produces a predictable pattern, then they will collectively make it happen. If due to publicly visible tea leaves I believe the price will drop, then I will sell as will many others who are also watching the same tea leaves. Whether or not the tea leaves have any correlation to the asset is irrelevant if the tea leaves influence behavior and behavior IS the market. You may choose to bet against the herd, but you would be ill advised to ignore the herd nor ignore what the herd is watching.

Poker is also a game of chance. But statistics and psychology help not a little.

The above is quite correct, with two caveats:

1) Collective behaviour will take you so far, but past that point there are forces that are much stronger.

2) There are still hidden variables in this game. In poker, you at least know how many cards in a deck... things like the mybitcoin fiasco (and bitomat, and mtgox a few weeks back, and so on) are the equivalent of adding two extra aces to the deck... or removing two, depending on which side you're on.

In the case of bitcoin, the hacks have set the whole experiment back quite a bit. But it will still move in the direction it would have moved without them. And perhaps, like a relationship that was destined to fail, it's better that these events happened now, early on in bitcoin's history, as opposed to three or four years from now.
hero member
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Poker is also a game of chance. But statistics and psychology help not a little.

I agree. A quick course in Psychology beats everything ever written on TA.

(That's why I suggested Animal Spirits, which is all about psychology and herd mentality in economics)

A Random Walk .. is the book that conclusively proves TA has no predictive power.
sr. member
Activity: 322
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FirstBits: 168Bc
If enough people believe a particular pattern produces a predictable pattern, then they will collectively make it happen. If due to publicly visible tea leaves I believe the price will drop, then I will sell as will many others who are also watching the same tea leaves. Whether or not the tea leaves have any correlation to the asset is irrelevant if the tea leaves influence behavior and behavior IS the market. You may choose to bet against the herd, but you would be ill advised to ignore the herd nor ignore what the herd is watching.

Poker is also a game of chance. But statistics and psychology help not a little.
hero member
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Nope.  No one did.  TA is a sham.

There were some people who called it without any solid reasoning other than a feeling, but no one was able to make the prediction based on technical analysis.  Why do we listen to these con-artists?

(Not directed at you)

Why? Read the book Animal Spirits

Sham? Yes, read the book A Random Walk Down Wall Street

People who believe in TA have failed all statistics classes they've ever been in, if they've taken any.
sr. member
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FirstBits: 168Bc
do you read these forums or just post? Scroll up, there have been numerous people who predicted for FREE days in advance. Sure others predicted badly. Ultimately, you play at your own risk!
sr. member
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I know the thing about the Subscribers, but there's no sense telling after, that his prediction was true... i know he's one of the best on this forum, i respect his theories!

i only dont like "i told you so"   Cheesy

i can also tell: "I bought at 6.2, exactly how my personal analysis resolved and it was right!" and you'll not care Wink

thx for you understanding
legendary
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For the last time (hopefully):

If someone can predict the expectation value of price, he will NOT tell others about it, but get insanely rich instead by trading himself. Technical analysis is for risk management, it is NOT a magical tool for infinite money! There is usually no simple, well-known way to get rich, duh!

This should be common sense really.
sr. member
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we outlined in our subscriber newsletters that "a break below the meak or break trendline (running between 12.3-12.5 ee expect a drop to 5 - 5.8.

5.74 was the low then.


senseless, if you tell us afterwards...
tell before or shut up please
thx

Cloon, that was public information on 3 August. I donated 5% of my gains to S3052. Chodpaba also predicted the drop, although only after the price was dropping from $10 on the 6th.
legendary
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It's not that TA is a sham, but that there are too many unpredictable variables:

1) Someone steals 75,000 btc from mybitcoin and takes the market for a ride. (replace with mtgox getting hacked, allinvain getting robbed, etc)

2) An early adopter just got his driver's licence and really, REALLY, wants to go and buy that Porsche.

3) Satoshi doesn't like the way in which Wall Street speculators are flooding into the btc market and decides to use one tenth of his holdings to send it into a downward spiral.

Add dark pools, back-deals and a few other goodies and you'll soon realise any kind of predictive analysis will go out the window... except for a monkey with a ouija board :-)
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we outlined in our subscriber newsletters that "a break below the meak or break trendline (running between 12.3-12.5 ee expect a drop to 5 - 5.8.

5.74 was the low then.

So your wealthy subscribers accelerated the panic by reading into your prophecy? (Not complaining, the more panicers wiped out the better.)

No, if they followed his recommendations, they sold at 12, bought at 5 and more than doubled their money. 
full member
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we outlined in our subscriber newsletters that "a break below the meak or break trendline (running between 12.3-12.5 ee expect a drop to 5 - 5.8.

5.74 was the low then.

So your wealthy subscribers accelerated the panic by reading into your prophecy? (Not complaining, the more panicers wiped out the better.)
legendary
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Merit: 1010
Borsche
cloon spend 5BTC for the subscription and know beforehand. i.e. subscribe or shut up please Smiley
legendary
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we outlined in our subscriber newsletters that "a break below the meak or break trendline (running between 12.3-12.5 ee expect a drop to 5 - 5.8.

5.74 was the low then.


senseless, if you tell us afterwards...
tell before or shut up please
thx

He told the subscribers before.
sr. member
Activity: 387
Merit: 250
we outlined in our subscriber newsletters that "a break below the meak or break trendline (running between 12.3-12.5 ee expect a drop to 5 - 5.8.

5.74 was the low then.


senseless, if you tell us afterwards...
tell before or shut up please
thx
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1000
we outlined in our subscriber newsletters that "a break below the meak or break trendline (running between 12.3-12.5 ee expect a drop to 5 - 5.8.

5.74 was the low then.
member
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Merit: 10
yeah mine did, I sold when it was around 14 and never looked back
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