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March 06, 2022, 04:20:51 PM
#49

Let me start with dialogue is always better than war, and you only know the value of peace during a war. I think the Ukrainians got it very wrong this time, I won't say they took advantage of their situation but I would say they solicited for help using Crypto means, and at this time the world is at merciful towards them, and donated to raise such amount of money, I honestly feel they should have continued with the earlier plan of an Airdrop.
Then If they wise you commence an NFT which honestly I don't see the use the can still carry on with it later on.
legendary
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March 06, 2022, 04:13:22 PM
#48
Whole idea of an airdrop was so surreal i couldn't make my mind what i would have thought about it. One one hand it would have been historical but i had bad taste in my mouth for crypto people speculating and making money out of this situation. That seemed like poor taste. On the other hand it's already was so complaining about poor taste of their choises in this is also poor taste.
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March 06, 2022, 08:10:35 AM
#47
IMO, I think this is a sort of misunderstanding, As we all know that Ukraine is under attack by Putin and it has a war happening in the country, Do you think Ukraine has time to do an airdrop? there's a war happening in Ukraine grounds that's why they need a donation to buy weapons and other war materials so it's clear that it's not a rug Ukraine needs help now so those who can help do it now without any precondition.
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March 06, 2022, 02:23:42 AM
#46
For me this crypto donation was to help Ukraine government in their war crisis and help people who are suffering there and we can't even imagine how much worse the situations are there or could be and this should never be treated as getting returns over it.Even if they don't give something in return the funds should be utilised in proper way helping people for actual purpose they were given.

You can get something in return from Ukraine whether NFT or something else but those who have lost their lives won't come back so don't make such wierd topics as this was some sort of investment.Just hope situations get to normal at first.
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March 06, 2022, 02:18:27 AM
#45

this could have a positive effect on crypto if the country really sends out government-backed tokens. do you think the IMF also advised Fedorov not to pursue this Ukrain coins?  what do you think stopped them from releasing?
I think they prefer NFT to be distributed to the donors because it is a tribute to the donors.
If you choose the right reasons, maybe the Ukrainian government doesn't want the coins it made
and donated instead the price will be played by rich people in cryptocurrency.
So they think that distributing NFT as a reward (not for resale) is better than having to give tokens
whose price can be manipulated at some point and there is no token of appreciation if it is a token, it can only be held in the wallet.
I'm sure this is not meant to be a rug pull because what they share is not
 for re-trading or the donors don't expect anything back from the donations they give.
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March 06, 2022, 02:01:26 AM
#44
I am still a little confuse here, why will people be eager to receive state owned coins over donations? isn't that suppose to be the so-hated cbdc version if the coin will be created and regulated by the state? or where they going to actually create a decentralized coins within a short time frame and in the middle of a crossfire. Huh
They already studying cryptocurrency even before this war started so technically they have the knowledge already and maybe, they already new that war is possible to happen that’s why they quickly adopt cryptocurrency. This is a donation drive, nobody forces you to send money and its all your choice so for me there’s no rug pull here and the main concern here is not about the donation, instead the safety of their own people.

Yeah they may be studying crypto but not developing one, not to mention they don't have the time and luxury to launch one during this period,  so the question of people expecting an airdrop from a state-owned coin is not clear to me. Ukraine is at war, getting hit by Russia and some people who donate expecting airdrop  Roll Eyes
Not exactly the right time to expect something like that, perhaps when things have cooled off and back to normal they will consider doing it.
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March 06, 2022, 12:22:29 AM
#43
While I agree that donations should be voluntary and no one should expect to get something back in return, I'll also say it is an act of irresponsibility for someone to make a promise about an airdrop and renege when many people have met the requirements. There is no excuse for that behaviour.

I don't even know if the airdropped tokens would have been valuable anyway and I felt that giving back NFTs is a better idea.
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March 05, 2022, 08:11:55 PM
#42
i was watching the NLW breakdown today and was amazed to see Ukraine plans to airdrop thier own nation-state token to those who will donate to their war. the funds raised up to $54M based on this article from cnbc and this is after the Ukrainian government announced this airdrop. Mykhailo Fedorov )Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Digital Transformation) the next day tweeted, they are not distributing Ukraine coins but instead NFTS.  https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1499348177002151937

this guy from youtube also talked about his frustration about this rug pull. notice her girl roaming behind him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGwy85r98k

this could have a positive effect on crypto if the country really sends out government-backed tokens. do you think the IMF also advised Fedorov not to pursue this Ukrain coins?  what do you think stopped them from releasing?

I think we will never know what influenced the decision to make such a change. In my opinion, they choose a good way to raise money. In their place, every way is right.

However, I would like to point out that the donations before the airdrop was announcement was around $10M. As you wrote yourself, this sum multiplied right after that. And I am very glad that the money is flowing to help Ukraine, but I am disgusted that most of them were sent there because they wanted to earn money and not because of good will.

I don't think there is no right or wrong here, there could be someone advising the government on what to do, but still it's for the best interest of the Ukrainian and not just for crypto enthusiast.

I think it's already more than $40M if I'm not mistaken, they said that they are going to help those who are in dire need, specially those who have been damage by the attacks by the Russians. For sure the medical expenses should be their number 1 priority.
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March 05, 2022, 07:52:53 PM
#41
i was watching the NLW breakdown today and was amazed to see Ukraine plans to airdrop thier own nation-state token to those who will donate to their war. the funds raised up to $54M based on this article from cnbc and this is after the Ukrainian government announced this airdrop. Mykhailo Fedorov )Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Digital Transformation) the next day tweeted, they are not distributing Ukraine coins but instead NFTS.  https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1499348177002151937

this guy from youtube also talked about his frustration about this rug pull. notice her girl roaming behind him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGwy85r98k

this could have a positive effect on crypto if the country really sends out government-backed tokens. do you think the IMF also advised Fedorov not to pursue this Ukrain coins?  what do you think stopped them from releasing?

I think we will never know what influenced the decision to make such a change. In my opinion, they choose a good way to raise money. In their place, every way is right.

However, I would like to point out that the donations before the airdrop was announcement was around $10M. As you wrote yourself, this sum multiplied right after that. And I am very glad that the money is flowing to help Ukraine, but I am disgusted that most of them were sent there because they wanted to earn money and not because of good will.
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March 05, 2022, 07:43:55 PM
#40
Well done people. People donate and when the party that gets donations didn't give the award for them = rug pull? People are losing their minds. i personally think that if this is how people who donated the money are still hoping to get back a token or something like that they can sell it to the market. They are not rug pulling you but they just wanna try to give feedback for those who have been donated for the ukraine.
I think that you are misunderstanding about that. Do you know what rugpull is? it's not even matching with it.
sr. member
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March 05, 2022, 05:20:03 PM
#39
They don't need to reward those people who donate from them, they are simply giving some and never expecting anything from Ukraine. If they are able to airdrop some coins, it is better to give them to those who are literally in need or might have to keep them as they can use them in the other place.

Hearing some appreciation is enough for me, it was an absolute help that requires nothing to get back. They need support and so people are doing this. Well, everyone who donates is happy to be appreciated.
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March 05, 2022, 04:59:46 PM
#38
I am still a little confuse here, why will people be eager to receive state owned coins over donations? isn't that suppose to be the so-hated cbdc version if the coin will be created and regulated by the state? or where they going to actually create a decentralized coins within a short time frame and in the middle of a crossfire. Huh
They already studying cryptocurrency even before this war started so technically they have the knowledge already and maybe, they already new that war is possible to happen that’s why they quickly adopt cryptocurrency. This is a donation drive, nobody forces you to send money and its all your choice so for me there’s no rug pull here and the main concern here is not about the donation, instead the safety of their own people.
legendary
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March 05, 2022, 04:58:17 PM
#37
I assume that most people who gave money to Ukraine didn't do it because they assumed they could make money from it. I mean what did they expected, Ukraine to get out of war, give them some tokens and somehow that token to have some worth? Hell in that case NFT is even better, it is like "I helped" badge that you can show around, and the ones who haven't could just buy from you to act as if they did.

I believe that you shouldn't have donated to a nation that is getting bombarded just because you were hoping for profits. Any person that gave money to Ukraine right now with the hopes of making more later on did something unethical and I am happy that Ukraine is not giving them tokens, I also hope they give NOTHING back, this is donation, not investment.
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March 05, 2022, 02:48:50 PM
#36
I am still a little confuse here, why will people be eager to receive state owned coins over donations? isn't that suppose to be the so-hated cbdc version if the coin will be created and regulated by the state? or where they going to actually create a decentralized coins within a short time frame and in the middle of a crossfire. Huh
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March 05, 2022, 01:32:03 PM
#35
There's no rug pull and if there's an airdrop, it's just a goodwill that Ukraine has to be done because of the people that loved them and donated in good faith.
I have never expected any return when someone donates and if they've done that, it's only a sign that they're happy and trying to give back to their donators. Whether they make an airdrop or none, people shouldn't be disappointed on what has been decided.
legendary
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March 05, 2022, 01:05:45 PM
#34
Ukraine is NOT going to scam anyone, the state authorities don't do things like that in this country. Also, it's not merely 'their war', it's a war for democracy, for the right of a nation to choose its own path. And it's delusional to believe that Putin's going to stop at Ukraine if he indeed manages to move forward, so it's very much the beginning of WW3 right now, but most countries are silently hoping that they'll be left untouched, that they can sit it out. If something's not being issued in time by the Ukrainian state, it's because the war is happening right now, so, you know, a lot of things to do and Ministries can't work properly and do everything on time.
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March 05, 2022, 12:38:23 PM
#33
They not rug me, because i didnt donation. 🤣
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March 05, 2022, 10:29:25 AM
#32
It don’t seem as a rug pull . Some People are donating just for the fact that they want to help Ukraine and didn’t expect anything in return. Some don’t have any idea that there is a Airdrop that they can receive. The war is not intended to happen this soon and Ukraine just keep on fighting and finding ways how to win their country. They think also somehow the airdrop can attract more donations that can help them each day since they need it to fight until that the war ends.

That's right when you help those in need you don't expect anything from them rather it is your way of easing their situation since they were suffering. Ukraine is not in the right place to give us something after we help them. they just need to use that money for their needs and didn't need to pay us back in anything. I don't really care if I receive any airdrop after donating or not, what's important is, I did all I can to help them in a way that I know.
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March 05, 2022, 10:18:56 AM
#31
like a real joke. If you donate, there is no problem. But what does it mean that we will airdrop to donors? So, I think that they have given up the war and pursued commercial activities completely. Frankly, even if I can help in such discourses, it does not come. But it is a fact that the war between Russia and Ukraine has seriously affected the whole world, and if it continues, I think the stock markets will be in a very bad state.
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March 05, 2022, 09:56:07 AM
#30
what do you think stopped them from releasing?
I do not really know, and to be honest it doesn't really matter what or if they are going to send out, it remains a win-win situation for all, except for the fact that this is a war, and sadly people are losing their lives, becoming homeless and quite a lot of things being destroyed. But on the other hand, positively crypto is serving as a means to help Ukraine in this difficult period, and to everyone who has sent something out to them, i must say thank you, secondly, crypto has definitely become more popular cause it is being mentioned in an issue that has attracted the attention of the entire world, i just hope this war comes to an end pretty fast, and if it does, i would not be surprised if crypto turns out to be very popular in Ukraine and other parts of the world, and it is going to be a big step to mass adoption.
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