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Topic: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Now Accepting Ether ! - page 434. (Read 759915 times)

legendary
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bosmarie
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If you dont like Directbet then don't F***ing use it.. I'm tired reading your nuisance comment on DirectBet Thread, why dont you make your own thread..

 I have a thread. DirectBet posts a lot of garbage in my thread daily. I played at DirectBet approximately one day per month if that.
full member
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DirectBet- If you take a look at the live lines at Betcoinsports, the layout is much better.

The bets that you complained about were not offered by Betcoinsports AT ALL.

It doesn't matter how convenience it is to place bets there if there are no bets to place !

I don't mind the poll at all even if it is misguided with the wording that is used by DirectBet since he is wrong about business relationships.

Why is it misguided ?

You admitted that certain books pay you to advertise and promote them.

Currently two Bitcoin Sportbooks are advertising at www.PeepsPlace.com and they "happen" to be rated the top 2 in your ratings guide.

So how is our poll question misguiding ?

How would you like us to rephrase the question in the poll ?

The ratings here at bitcointalk are not affected by by business relationships.

Currently, 73% thinks that your ratings are biased.

The ratings come out. Then I give the ratings to Reagan. He then in turn makes a decision on what banners that he would accept to be up at peepsplace.com. Of course the top books are going to be the ones that are asked to advertise.

When a book wants a banner up at peepsplace then we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. We also go to other cash forums and post in promotional threads. We will do interviews if asked and have articles published for advertising books.

This has nothing to do with bitcointalk. Everyone here is already playing with bitcoins. We go after the cash players where the market is untapped.

I'm just a power poster that posts at many forums. I like this community here at bitcointalk and try to add to it.

Have a life man, you are just here to Harras Directbet, you just keep posting here about your nonsense, why dont you get a life and have dun with it.

All i can see is your post here, about blablabla, which is absolutely bias, if you are trying to make a Reputable Rankings on Sportsbook, dont be bias, posting here about negative comments on DirectBet and Still using it to bet.. that just being Ridiculous, why cant Any Mod here, ban this person,

He isn't just a nuisance, he is also trying to give a negative image on a very Reputable Sportsbook like DirectBet.

I think he is being stupid..

If you dont like Directbet then don't F***ing use it.. I'm tired reading your nuisance comment on DirectBet Thread, why dont you make your own thread..
legendary
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The ratings come out. Then I give the ratings to Reagan. He then in turn makes a decision on what banners that he would accept to be up at peepsplace.com. Of course the top books are going to be the ones that are asked to advertise.

When a book wants a banner up at peepsplace then we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. We also go to other cash forums and post in promotional threads. We will do interviews if asked and have articles published for advertising books.

Except that you forgot to tell the rest of the story.

After the banners went up, Peeps Place tailored the ratings and criteria on his ratings list so that the Bitcoin sportbooks that purchased his advertisement deal will also be on top of his ratings list, isolated from the others.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6512771

You claim that your ratings guide is not biased towards books that pay you to promote them in "other" forums.

We disagree. That's why we put in a poll. Lets see what is the public opinion.

Currently, 73% believe that you do not have the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks.
newbie
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There oughta be a law against some of the lines that DB is using. This isn't even live.

Washington -151
Colorado +118
legendary
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DirectBet- If you take a look at the live lines at Betcoinsports, the layout is much better.

The bets that you complained about were not offered by Betcoinsports AT ALL.

It doesn't matter how convenience it is to place bets there if there are no bets to place !

I don't mind the poll at all even if it is misguided with the wording that is used by DirectBet since he is wrong about business relationships.

Why is it misguided ?

You admitted that certain books pay you to advertise and promote them.

Currently two Bitcoin Sportbooks are advertising at www.PeepsPlace.com and they "happen" to be rated the top 2 in your ratings guide.

So how is our poll question misguiding ?

How would you like us to rephrase the question in the poll ?

The ratings here at bitcointalk are not affected by by business relationships.

Currently, 73% thinks that your ratings are biased.

The ratings come out. Then I give the ratings to Reagan. He then in turn makes a decision on what banners that he would accept to be up at peepsplace.com. Of course the top books are going to be the ones that are asked to advertise.

When a book wants a banner up at peepsplace then we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. We also go to other cash forums and post in promotional threads. We will do interviews if asked and have articles published for advertising books.

This has nothing to do with bitcointalk. Everyone here is already playing with bitcoins. We go after the cash players where the market is untapped.

I'm just a power poster that posts at many forums. I like this community here at bitcointalk and try to add to it.
legendary
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DirectBet- If you take a look at the live lines at Betcoinsports, the layout is much better.

The bets that you complained about were not offered by Betcoinsports AT ALL.

It doesn't matter how convenience it is to place bets there if there are no bets to place !

I don't mind the poll at all even if it is misguided with the wording that is used by DirectBet since he is wrong about business relationships.

Why is it misguided ?

You admitted that certain books pay you to advertise and promote them.

Currently two Bitcoin Sportbooks are advertising at www.PeepsPlace.com and they "happen" to be rated the top 2 in your ratings guide.

So how is our poll question misguiding ?

How would you like us to rephrase the question in the poll ?

The ratings here at bitcointalk are not affected by by business relationships.

Currently, 73% thinks that your ratings are biased.
sr. member
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legendary
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DirectBet- If you take a look at the live lines at Betcoinsports, the layout is much better. There is a box around all offerings that change red/green depending on if the line goes up or down. One click and you get quick confirmation if the bet is accepted.

You almost have to jump through hoops to make a bet at DirectBet. Hit the game, place an order, copy/paste address. Put it in the wallet and send. Then you aren't guaranteed that the bet will be accepted and it's held by you if you use firm odds and there is any delay between the player's wallet and your wallet.


legendary
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I'm not trying to prevent anyone from playing at DirectBet. Currently on the TB/Minn game, the odds are -1428/+310. I can't recommend a book with these type of holds.

You are referring to in-play MLB bets.

Anonibet, Nitrogen, Casinobitcoin, Betcoinsports all your top rated Bitcoin Sportbooks do not offer these bets AT ALL.

So first of all we should be getting credit for offering bets that are not available by other Bitcoin Sportbooks.


You may think the odds are low and if so you can simply skip these bets, no one is forcing you to bet.

I can assure you though there are others who find these bets appealing and profitable.

The bottom line is that offering bets at reduced odds is better than not offering bets at all.

The next time you complain about our odds in-play, please submit a proof that other Bitcoin Sportbooks offer greater odds on average than DirectBet as otherwise we will be consider it a baseless attempt to discredit DirectBet on behalf of our competitors, whom you work for.

Do you think, given the above, that Peeps Place ratings guide is biased towards the books that pay him to promote them in forums ? Please take a moment to vote in the poll at the top of this thread.
legendary
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bitbook.biz was the most reputable sportbook before it was targeted by DDOS.

They gave everyone time to withdraw funds, before they closed down for good.

Just wanted to correct that piece of misinformation.

Yes, I did mention in my post that Bitbook paid out its users for several days after closing.

However, they too did not pay out everyone because they only allowed a short window of a few days to get paid.

If you search the archive of Bitcointalk you will find reports of users that were not paid, simply because they did not visit the Bitbook thread during the few days closure period and were not aware of it.
They allowed a 7 day window that was expanded to 10 days if I remember correctly.

Yes, good reason not to use those site that require an account and deposit into the site.
Hence, now we can all agree- DirectBet is the #1 crypto-Sportsbook on the market.
I'm not trying to prevent anyone from playing at DirectBet. Currently on the TB/Minn game, the odds are -1428/+310. I can't recommend a book with these type of holds.

Other games:

-1428/+310
-900/+265
-1111/+360
-5000/+950
-434/+166
hero member
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bitbook.biz was the most reputable sportbook before it was targeted by DDOS.

They gave everyone time to withdraw funds, before they closed down for good.

Just wanted to correct that piece of misinformation.

Yes, I did mention in my post that Bitbook paid out its users for several days after closing.

However, they too did not pay out everyone because they only allowed a short window of a few days to get paid.

If you search the archive of Bitcointalk you will find reports of users that were not paid, simply because they did not visit the Bitbook thread during the few days closure period and were not aware of it.
They allowed a 7 day window that was expanded to 10 days if I remember correctly.

Yes, good reason not to use those site that require an account and deposit into the site.
Hence, now we can all agree- DirectBet is the #1 crypto-Sportsbook on the market.
legendary
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Taking deposits is a much better method for players than with what is currently being used by DirectBet. Bit365 was a book similar to DirectBet. Bit365 went under stealing player's funds. They were a non-deposit book.

The biggest downfall with using a non-deposit book is that you are at the mercy of transfer time between your wallet and DirectBet. Bets can be held for hours, using the worst case scenario, with a non-deposit book. During this time you do not know if you have a bet or not. If you use "firm odds", there is no way to cancel your wager. With deposit books, you get close immediate responses.


If you use the official Bitcoin client, your bet transfers will deliver within a second or two.

Unofficial wallets might sometimes have delays but this is something that they will solve over time and there is an alternative for the time being. Simply install Bitcoin Core and treat your wallet there as "Your Account" in books that are not taking deposits.

Note that the traditional deposit books force a delay anyhow when betting in-play, typically of 5-7 seconds, in order not to give an unfair advantage to those who are betting while physically presenting in the game.

This 5-7 seconds forced delay by traditional deposit books is equivalent to the time it may take for non deposit books to receive and process bet transfers and therefore there is no difference even with time sensitive bets.

In today's new virtual currency era, we believe that there is absolutely no need for a Sportsbook to take deposits and hold your coins while they are not being wagered.

Taking deposits is a much better method for players than with what is currently being used by DirectBet. Bit365 was a book similar to DirectBet. Bit365 went under stealing player's funds. They were a non-deposit book.

When Bit365 went down the majority of the people who suffered losses were the investors, not the players, because they did not take deposits from players. The few users who got hit were those who kept on betting there while ignoring the slow pay warning signs. Later some kept on betting even when they did not get paid and as a result had accumulated multiple unpaid winning bets.

By the way, if you are curious why Bit365 went bankrupt, here is my educated guess :

They took around 500 BTC in investments and cashed some or all of it out while the Bitcoin value was around $100, then when the Bitcoin value went up to around $1000 many investors wanted to cash out but at that point Bit365 did not have sufficient cash to buy back the Bitcoins.
legendary
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bitbook.biz was the most reputable sportbook before it was targeted by DDOS.

They gave everyone time to withdraw funds, before they closed down for good.

Just wanted to correct that piece of misinformation.

Yes, I did mention in my post that Bitbook paid out its users for several days after closing.

However, they too did not pay out everyone because they only allowed a short window of a few days to get paid.

If you search the archive of Bitcointalk you will find reports of users that were not paid, simply because they did not visit the Bitbook thread during the few days closure period and were not aware of it.
They allowed a 7 day window that was expanded to 10 days if I remember correctly.
legendary
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Merit: 1010

bitbook.biz was the most reputable sportbook before it was targeted by DDOS.

They gave everyone time to withdraw funds, before they closed down for good.

Just wanted to correct that piece of misinformation.

Yes, I did mention in my post that Bitbook paid out its users for several days after closing.

However, they too did not pay out everyone because they only allowed a short window of a few days to get paid.

If you search the archive of Bitcointalk you will find reports of users that were not paid, simply because they did not visit the Bitbook thread during the few days closure period and were not aware of it.
legendary
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We at DirectBet sympathies with those of you who apparently lost their deposits and investments with the disappearance of BitcoinLiveBets.com

To date, there hasn't been a single cryptocurrency Sportsbook that we are aware of, which ceased operation gracefully and honored all withdrawal requests.

All the Bitcoin Sportsbooks that were closed in the past, with no exceptions, ran away with users deposits, and every time that happened, it hampered the reputation of the Bitcoin sports betting industry as a whole. (Note : Bitbook did pay out its users for several days after closing, but not all of them).

The purpose of this post is not to spread salt on the wounds of those affected but rather to raise the point that in today's new virtual currency era, there is absolutely no need for a Sportsbook to take deposits and hold your coins while they are not being wagered.

The "My Account" -> "Deposit" type of wagering belongs to the 90s.

Today, you can bet with your coins and keep them safe in your wallet under your control while they are not in a wager.

No longer do you need to park your valuable coins on 3rd party websites and hope that they will be there when you need them.


Taking deposits is a much better method for players than with what is currently being used by DirectBet. Bit365 was a book similar to DirectBet. Bit365 went under stealing player's funds. They were a non-deposit book.

The biggest downfall with using a non-deposit book is that you are at the mercy of transfer time between your wallet and DirectBet. Bets can be held for hours, using the worst case scenario, with a non-deposit book. During this time you do not know if you have a bet or not. If you use "firm odds", there is no way to cancel your wager. With deposit books, you get close immediate responses.

There is also never a need to keep a huge balance in a bitcoin deposit book. After winning a wager you can take the winnings and put it back in your wallet after a win. One advantage that DirectBet has is if you aren't funded with another book. The only other advantage is that they have many live wagering events albeit odds with outrageous theoretical holds.

hero member
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We at DirectBet sympathies with those of you who apparently lost their deposits and investments with the disappearance of BitcoinLiveBets.com

To date, there hasn't been a single cryptocurrency Sportsbook that we are aware of, which ceased operation gracefully and honored all withdrawal requests.

All the Bitcoin Sportsbooks that were closed in the past, with no exceptions, ran away with users deposits, and every time that happened, it hampered the reputation of the Bitcoin sports betting industry as a whole. (Note : Bitbook did pay out its users for several days after closing, but not all of them).

The purpose of this post is not to spread salt on the wounds of those affected but rather to raise the point that in today's new virtual currency era, there is absolutely no need for a Sportsbook to take deposits and hold your coins while they are not being wagered.

The "My Account" -> "Deposit" type of wagering belongs to the 90s.

Today, you can bet with your coins and keep them safe in your wallet under your control while they are not in a wager.

No longer do you need to park your valuable coins on 3rd party websites and hope that they will be there when you need them.

bitbook.biz was the most reputable sportbook before it was targeted by DDOS.

They gave everyone time to withdraw funds, before they closed down for good.

Just wanted to correct that piece of misinformation.

I agree with Koshgel Bitbook was the best run book around by FAR
legendary
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We at DirectBet sympathies with those of you who apparently lost their deposits and investments with the disappearance of BitcoinLiveBets.com

To date, there hasn't been a single cryptocurrency Sportsbook that we are aware of, which ceased operation gracefully and honored all withdrawal requests.

All the Bitcoin Sportsbooks that were closed in the past, with no exceptions, ran away with users deposits, and every time that happened, it hampered the reputation of the Bitcoin sports betting industry as a whole. (Note : Bitbook did pay out its users for several days after closing, but not all of them).

The purpose of this post is not to spread salt on the wounds of those affected but rather to raise the point that in today's new virtual currency era, there is absolutely no need for a Sportsbook to take deposits and hold your coins while they are not being wagered.

The "My Account" -> "Deposit" type of wagering belongs to the 90s.

Today, you can bet with your coins and keep them safe in your wallet under your control while they are not in a wager.

No longer do you need to park your valuable coins on 3rd party websites and hope that they will be there when you need them.

bitbook.biz was the most reputable sportbook before it was targeted by DDOS.

They gave everyone time to withdraw funds, before they closed down for good.

Just wanted to correct that piece of misinformation.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
We at DirectBet sympathies with those of you who apparently lost their deposits and investments with the disappearance of BitcoinLiveBets.com

To date, there hasn't been a single cryptocurrency Sportsbook that we are aware of, which ceased operation gracefully and honored all withdrawal requests.

All the Bitcoin Sportsbooks that were closed in the past, with no exceptions, ran away with users deposits, and every time that happened, it hampered the reputation of the Bitcoin sports betting industry as a whole. (Note : Bitbook did pay out its users for several days after closing, but not all of them).

The purpose of this post is not to spread salt on the wounds of those affected but rather to raise the point that in today's new virtual currency era, there is absolutely no need for a Sportsbook to take deposits and hold your coins while they are not being wagered.

The "My Account" -> "Deposit" type of wagering belongs to the 90s.

Today, you can bet with your coins and keep them safe in your wallet under your control while they are not in a wager.

No longer do you need to park your valuable coins on 3rd party websites and hope that they will be there when you need them.
legendary
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I had a similar experience. I placed a bet, then I went to the status and it said that the odds had changed and the bet wasn't accepted. The next day I checked and DirectBet counted it as a loser. They showed me that the bet was accepted 7 minutes after my bet had been placed. I didn't know this until the next day. I hope that you have better luck than I did trying to rectify the situation.

Peeps Place, there was no problem with your bet on our end. It was your shared web wallet that delayed the transfer by 7 minutes. Your bet was then processed properly and in accordance with our rules as soon as it was received, and we clearly state in our website that after you send your bet, you have to wait for it to arrive and then check whether it was confirmed or rejected.

For time sensitive bets and to avoid similar delays in the future, please use the official Bitcoin Core client.

As you can see in the archive of this thread, we have no problem admitting when there is an error in our system.

When that happens, we fix it immediately and compensate the player who brings it to our attention.

As you may recall, one of your bets in the past was supposed to be "half win" due to the dead heat rule, but since the dead heat rule was not properly clarified on our website at the time, we awarded you with the full double payout. That was an extra 0.679 BTC in your pocket from DirectBet !

Once again, there was no problem with this particular bet as I have already explained to you in great details along with the necessary evidence.
legendary
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Follow-up on my earlier problem:

DirectBet has checked it and told me that the bet was, indeed, confirmed incorrectly. They said:
"What happened is that one of your Toto ~ Parlay bets was on a correct score of 1-1 during in-play in a soccer game and the result changed to 1-2 exactly at the same time while your bet was processed.
This appears to be a very rare bug and it is the first time we have encountered it. It will get fixed later on today."

I got a refund and a free 0.03 BTC bet (which is very nice since the original bet was about 0.06 BTC).

Handled professionally and timely. Very satisfied with this, props to DirectBet. I will update all of my previous posts so people can see this.

We've released a software update with a fix to this extremely rare bug.

Once again we apology for the inconvenience this has caused.

Please do create a support ticket on our website every time you feel your bet has not been processed properly and we will investigate it.
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