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Topic: DireWolfM14's Trust Setting and Tag Review - page 2. (Read 692 times)

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A few points for you to consider, or ignore that's fine to. Your earlier interaction didn't really seem to give off the vibe that you didn't approve. I know you've said you were joking and I believe you, but in an instance like this it may have been prudent to actually point it out. This seemed like after the fact csmiami was feeding off the jokes made at the newbies expense and the suggestions of what to do with the funds. In the end what they did was still untrustworthy and disrespectful.

I can't argue with that logic, and looking back my public behavior in that it thread I do feel some shame.  In my defense I did PM Csmiami 23 seconds after I made this post telling him that I would send the money back (minus tx fees.)  I should have been more responsible in public, and shouldn't have needed DarkStar_ to point out that out.


It also would have been nice to see a negative come to mind here first once it was realized theft was involved. You have corrected that and owned up to the whole process so well done, and I'm sure with time you will have firmed up your lines on what feedback is deserved for what actions.

This is also a very good point, and I was putting things into a narrow minded perspective due to the amount.  Integrity shouldn't depend on amount; $3 is essentially one 24oz Coors Light to me (which my waistline will attest I can live without,) but could be someone else's daily wages.  Thank you for your feedback, Steamtyme, it is really helpful.


FWIW I don't think Csmiami had any ill intent in the situation.

I agree.  The fact that he PM'd the two of us to ask our advice is commendable, but I also think he should be more careful with other people's money.  Even if that individual is a fuckstick.

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First of all I thank Darkstar_ for mentioning this thread, since I didn't even think it would have reached the Reputation board so fast. DireWolf should have a PM coming from me because of that same reason, I first wanted to talk to him and Darkstar about the feedback and then move it to the reputation board if I was not satisfied (less people involved, means less mess).

I didn't answer the original thread right away since I was having some drinks with some friends when everything was going on. I admit my actions may not have been the best ones, but at no moment did I think this would go this far; as I have stated a couple of times. I did repeat the stupid offer of "0.03 for 0.015" on each message on porpuse (and with smileys), trying to make the OP realize what a stupid situation he was offering. That did not happen, and I was actually sent some funds. At first I took that as something funny, but after giving it some thought, I realized how quickly and badly the situation could scalate, so I PM'd bot suchmoon and DireWolf (both had been active on the thread) to ask for some advice.

The first one to reply was suchmoon with this:

I'd stand by your feedback. I don't really like how the entire situation was handled. I don't know if OP of that thread had any intentions of scamming or is just plain stupid but the experienced members of bitcointalk should not be playing with someone's money even if it means punishing them. CSMaimai's intentions to keep the money for 2 days is just hilarious. At one point Op actually gave up on his 0.003 which I assume wouldn't have been returned if not for you and DarkStar.

It's a silly mistake though. Maybe you should watch them for a few weeks and then change the feedback? I'd be more open to having the feedback removed right now if CSMiami accepts their mistake.  

You may be right at me not handling the situation the best way, but I think I've made pretty clear that I wanted to have nothing to do with those funds, since I considered them quite a hot potato. The only thing Darkstar and Direwolf have triggered was an almost heart attack on me when I opent the forum
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FWIW I don't think Csmiami had any ill intent in the situation. I saw my name mentioned in that thread, here is the actual PM I sent:

I'd say since the terms were absurd to begin with you should probably return it, minus a reasonable TX fee, after giving the other person a few days to comply Wink

Another option would be to offer to lend 0.0015 BTC to them.

You also gotta keep in mind that Armadillo-whatshisname is a total lunatic. It's not like there was any deception in the "deal" he was offered, it was just plain ridiculous and he was too eager to scam 0.15 or 0.015 or 0.0015 BTC or whatever he was expecting there.
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If you're being honest about having a discussion about your trust settings, I would appreciate it if you could walk me through the reasoning behind giving me distrust on your trust settings ?

AFAIK we've never exchanged pleasantries so I would appreciate some insight into the rationale you used.

Thank you.

*Edit* my own distrust of you is a tit-for-tat response. Nothing more.

Thanks for reading.
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I read into it a little and was trying to figure out more about how the fees worked into it but I've never used that service. Either way it was a gross overestimate in an attempt to withhold, as shown by Darkstar_  so the feedback makes sense. Whether you review it at a later time or they make amends it's up to you how to proceed in the future.


A few points for you to consider, or ignore that's fine to. Your earlier interaction didn't really seem to give off the vibe that you didn't approve. I know you've said you were joking and I believe you, but in an instance like this it may have been prudent to actually point it out. This seemed like after the fact csmiami was feeding off the jokes made at the newbies expense and the suggestions of what to do with the funds. In the end what they did was still untrustworthy and disrespectful.

It also would have been nice to see a negative come to mind here first once it was realized theft was involved. You have corrected that and owned up to the whole process so well done, and I'm sure with time you will have firmed up your lines on what feedback is deserved for what actions.

Edit: Should you be interested I created a newbie warning flag given the events and that this was a newbie involved.
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The reason I'm creating this thread right now is because I just left a negative rating for member Csmiami due to his handling of this situation.  I had originally left him a neutral review, but after consideration I decided a negative review is warranted.
I'd stand by your feedback. I don't really like how the entire situation was handled. I don't know if OP of that thread had any intentions of scamming or is just plain stupid but the experienced members of bitcointalk should not be playing with someone's money even if it means punishing them. CSMaimai's intentions to keep the money for 2 days is just hilarious. At one point Op actually gave up on his 0.003 which I assume wouldn't have been returned if not for you and DarkStar.

It's a silly mistake though. Maybe you should watch them for a few weeks and then change the feedback? I'd be more open to having the feedback removed right now if CSMiami accepts their mistake. 
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The reason I'm creating this thread right now is because I just left a negative rating for member Csmiami due to his handling of this situation.  I had originally left him a neutral review, but after consideration I decided a negative review is warranted.

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