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Quote from: suchmoon on July 15, 2014, 05:58:12 PM

I'm waiting for some B1 S3s too. I think SHA256 profitability is quite straightforward (recent spike notwithstanding), so not much profitability comparison needed. But I'm thinking about cooking up some kind of revenue-per-kWh stats for gauging hardware capabilities. I happen to have a fairly diverse set of miners, and have been crunching kWh numbers for myself recently trying to decide when to start getting rid of some antiques.

As for multipool, I've seen complaints that poolpicker is way off on that one. Let us know how it goes

If you're in batch 1, you should be getting your S3's soon. Very exciting. I'll bet there will be a bunch of new threads soon around set up, tuning, etc. The people on the discussion and support thread can barely contain themselves.

The revenue-per power unit angle sounds interesting.

If I go with multipool.us (and the requisite Cryptsy auto-sell set up), I'll gather the numbers and either post them here or send them to you. Maybe I'll point one unit at multipool.us and the other at a straight BTC pool as a mini suchmoon experiment.

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Quote from: Bombadil on July 15, 2014, 06:04:36 PM

Thing of multipool.us (and coinking for that matter) is that they require you to do the trading if you want maximum profit.
Multipool.us solves this by integrating cryptsy's APIs, and if you setup a good auto-sell at cryptsy, you can get a decent return. If not, well, then you might end up with coins that have been pumped for a few minutes but are less profitable when you're back behind the screen.
You can do the same (without API integration) for Coinking, or you could wait 6h (on top of the confirm time) for their auto-exchanger to pass by. After 6h, it's the same effect: profitability dropped a lot. You're stuck again with coins you mined at a peak of price and difficulty, and yet they aren't exchanged at the spot.

So its a matter of taste. You like trading yourself? Go for such kind of pools. If you want to lay back and mine, ignore these.

Also, the results taken by poolpicker are taken from the pool's API. Most of the pools like multipool.us and coinking use more of an estimate on how much you'd get if you would've sold it at the spot.

To be fair most multipool autoexchangers work in a similar manner, well maybe not in 6h chunks, but still there is no guarantee that they will sell at a good price. Imagine CM dumping 80 GH/s worth of coins all the time. The difference is that some pools are more realistic in their estimates and coin switching, e.g. taking into account market depth at the exchange.

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Quote from: Bombadil on July 15, 2014, 06:04:36 PM

Thing of multipool.us (and coinking for that matter) is that they require you to do the trading if you want maximum profit.
Multipool.us solves this by integrating cryptsy's APIs, and if you setup a good auto-sell at cryptsy, you can get a decent return. If not, well, then you might end up with coins that have been pumped for a few minutes but are less profitable when you're back behind the screen.
You can do the same (without API integration) for Coinking, or you could wait 6h (on top of the confirm time) for their auto-exchanger to pass by. After 6h, it's the same effect: profitability dropped a lot. You're stuck again with coins you mined at a peak of price and difficulty, and yet they aren't exchanged at the spot.

So its a matter of taste. You like trading yourself? Go for such kind of pools. If you want to lay back and mine, ignore these.

Also, the results taken by poolpicker are taken from the pool's API. Most of the pools like multipool.us and coinking use more of an estimate on how much you'd get if you would've sold it at the spot.

That's good info. Thanks for the thoughts.

I have to admit that I'm not looking forward to configuring the Cryptsy auto-sell. That's definitely the downside of multipool.us. I can probably do it, but honestly I've been spoiled by pools like WP and CM that just take care of the exchange.

I may end up chickening out and just pointing at a straight BTC pool. Maybe when Bitmain supports P2Pool (the S3s won't support it out of the box, but they claim to be working on it), I can go that route.

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Thing of multipool.us (and coinking for that matter) is that they require you to do the trading if you want maximum profit.
Multipool.us solves this by integrating cryptsy's APIs, and if you setup a good auto-sell at cryptsy, you can get a decent return. If not, well, then you might end up with coins that have been pumped for a few minutes but are less profitable when you're back behind the screen.
You can do the same (without API integration) for Coinking, or you could wait 6h (on top of the confirm time) for their auto-exchanger to pass by. After 6h, it's the same effect: profitability dropped a lot. You're stuck again with coins you mined at a peak of price and difficulty, and yet they aren't exchanged at the spot.

So its a matter of taste. You like trading yourself? Go for such kind of pools. If you want to lay back and mine, ignore these.

Also, the results taken by poolpicker are taken from the pool's API. Most of the pools like multipool.us and coinking use more of an estimate on how much you'd get if you would've sold it at the spot.

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Quote from: edonkey on July 15, 2014, 04:04:46 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on July 15, 2014, 11:52:18 AM

On a side note, it's a good time to own a bitcoin rig. There is a new SHA256 coin or something - I haven't really been paying attention - but my rigs on all rental sites are working at 2-3-4 times the usual bitcoin profitability, so the last couple of days are really helping ROI, not that it was too bad to begin with.

Which is ironic given the abysmal state of Scrypt, aka the former king of shitcoins. Someone managed to come up with a coin that can sustain the onslaught of the massive SHA256 hashrate, but we haven't seen anything worthwhile for Scrypt in quite a while.

Yeah, disappointed with Scrypt profitability and the current impossible to ROI pre-order product offerings, I caved and ordered a couple of the new Antminer S3s. With projected difficulty, these are on the hairy edge of an ROI, but it's the closest I've seen.

That's why I asked a while ago if you're going to support SHA256. Pure selfishness on my part Wink

In the meantime, I'll probably go with Multipool.us. Poolpicker puts it at the top when you look at the average return.

Now I just have to wait till the S3's arrive (I'm in batch 3 because I moved too slowly).

I'm waiting for some B1 S3s too. I think SHA256 profitability is quite straightforward (recent spike notwithstanding), so not much profitability comparison needed. But I'm thinking about cooking up some kind of revenue-per-kWh stats for gauging hardware capabilities. I happen to have a fairly diverse set of miners, and have been crunching kWh numbers for myself recently trying to decide when to start getting rid of some antiques.

As for multipool, I've seen complaints that poolpicker is way off on that one. Let us know how it goes

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 15, 2014, 11:52:18 AM

On a side note, it's a good time to own a bitcoin rig. There is a new SHA256 coin or something - I haven't really been paying attention - but my rigs on all rental sites are working at 2-3-4 times the usual bitcoin profitability, so the last couple of days are really helping ROI, not that it was too bad to begin with.

Which is ironic given the abysmal state of Scrypt, aka the former king of shitcoins. Someone managed to come up with a coin that can sustain the onslaught of the massive SHA256 hashrate, but we haven't seen anything worthwhile for Scrypt in quite a while.

Yeah, disappointed with Scrypt profitability and the current impossible to ROI pre-order product offerings, I caved and ordered a couple of the new Antminer S3s. With projected difficulty, these are on the hairy edge of an ROI, but it's the closest I've seen.

That's why I asked a while ago if you're going to support SHA256. Pure selfishness on my part Wink

In the meantime, I'll probably go with Multipool.us. Poolpicker puts it at the top when you look at the average return.

Now I just have to wait till the S3's arrive (I'm in batch 3 because I moved too slowly).

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 15, 2014, 11:52:18 AM

Quote from: Accordus on July 15, 2014, 02:46:16 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on July 14, 2014, 12:12:24 PM

Charts have been updated for today: http://cryp.today

suchmoon: Do you think LR has given up competing or something? It really looks dead to me recently.

I don't know if they've given up but it's been quite lonely there recently. They removed lease logs and miaviator is telling everyone to price their rigs just slightly above multipools but I don't think that's going to work. There is just no one renting.

On a side note, it's a good time to own a bitcoin rig. There is a new SHA256 coin or something - I haven't really been paying attention - but my rigs on all rental sites are working at 2-3-4 times the usual bitcoin profitability, so the last couple of days are really helping ROI, not that it was too bad to begin with.

Which is ironic given the abysmal state of Scrypt, aka the former king of shitcoins. Someone managed to come up with a coin that can sustain the onslaught of the massive SHA256 hashrate, but we haven't seen anything worthwhile for Scrypt in quite a while.

Most of the scrypt rigs (including my own) on LR are rented out, I would hardly call it dead.

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 15, 2014, 11:52:18 AM

Quote from: Accordus on July 15, 2014, 02:46:16 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on July 14, 2014, 12:12:24 PM

Charts have been updated for today: http://cryp.today

suchmoon: Do you think LR has given up competing or something? It really looks dead to me recently.

On a side note, it's a good time to own a bitcoin rig. There is a new SHA256 coin or something - I haven't really been paying attention - but my rigs on all rental sites are working at 2-3-4 times the usual bitcoin profitability, so the last couple of days are really helping ROI, not that it was too bad to begin with.

Which is ironic given the abysmal state of Scrypt, aka the former king of shitcoins. Someone managed to come up with a coin that can sustain the onslaught of the massive SHA256 hashrate, but we haven't seen anything worthwhile for Scrypt in quite a while.

Nicehash today>
Algorithm   Current Speed   Currently Paying     24h Payouts
SHA256    97.1283 TH/s    0.0308 BTC/TH/Day    0.0716 BTC/TH/Day

Yes, there must be something going on with some SHA256 coin.
Maybe: https://twitter.com/becausePool/status/489052669483687936

Also>
X13    25.4493 GH/s    1.1140 BTC/GH/Day    0.8248 BTC/GH/Day
I actually hired some 100 MHs for some time (for around 0.7 BTC/GH/Day) because people were just not around to adjust their prices.

Funny day.

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Quote from: Accordus on July 15, 2014, 02:46:16 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on July 14, 2014, 12:12:24 PM

Charts have been updated for today: http://cryp.today

suchmoon: Do you think LR has given up competing or something? It really looks dead to me recently.

I don't know if they've given up but it's been quite lonely there recently. They removed lease logs and miaviator is telling everyone to price their rigs just slightly above multipools but I don't think that's going to work. There is just no one renting.

On a side note, it's a good time to own a bitcoin rig. There is a new SHA256 coin or something - I haven't really been paying attention - but my rigs on all rental sites are working at 2-3-4 times the usual bitcoin profitability, so the last couple of days are really helping ROI, not that it was too bad to begin with.

Which is ironic given the abysmal state of Scrypt, aka the former king of shitcoins. Someone managed to come up with a coin that can sustain the onslaught of the massive SHA256 hashrate, but we haven't seen anything worthwhile for Scrypt in quite a while.

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 14, 2014, 12:12:24 PM

Charts have been updated for today: http://cryp.today

suchmoon: Do you think LR has given up competing or something? It really looks dead to me recently.

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Update on CoinShift/CoinKing/Scrypt in general: I'm using a set of Zeus Blizzard / GAW Fury miners for Scrypt benchmarks, and the last batch I got is underperforming (~1.1 MH/s instead of 1.3 MH/s). That doesn't have any significant effect on the charts since I'm dividing the earnings by actual hashrate to get the "per 1 MH/s" number, but my ideal setup is to have identical miners and rotate them across all pools to make sure that minor hardware differences don't have a cumulative effect. That works perfectly when the differences between miners are in the 1-2% range, but no good when it's 10-20%. I've ordered some thermal compound and will try to reseat heatsinks, if that doesn't help I'll have to RMA these miners and order a new batch.

Long story short, it might be a few more days before I'll be ready to make changes. Post or PM if you have an opinion as to which Scrypt pool is worth considering.

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 11, 2014, 11:26:44 AM

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I'm planning to remove Coinshift and replace it with CoinKing or MiningRigRentals. Feel free to let me know if you prefer one or the other or something else entirely (it has to be Scrypt though - it's an ASIC rig).

I'd like to see CoinKing please.

Full disclosure that I've tried to mine with them a couple of times based on their advertised performance. But both times I ran into server side issues that resulted in huge reject rates. I came to the conclusion that their services were not ready for prime time and haven't been back.

I think that based on their advertised performance, CoinKing has real potential. Their web interface is also very nice, and they have flexible payout options.

Maybe if you add them to your list, they will have a real incentive to demonstrate that they are a profitable option.

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I'm planning to remove Coinshift and replace it with CoinKing or MiningRigRentals. Feel free to let me know if you prefer one or the other or something else entirely (it has to be Scrypt though - it's an ASIC rig).

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 08, 2014, 09:25:41 AM

Quote from: Accordus on July 08, 2014, 05:54:00 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on July 07, 2014, 10:14:32 PM

I'd like to introduce a new and improved version of my comparison charts:

http://cryp.today/ (yes, that's a real URL)

TODOs in no particular order:

Near-real-time data from services that provide such data (e.g. current lowest rig prices from rig rental sites).

Please be aware that MRR is reporting cheapest rent prices on its opening page from all rigs including rented ones. This is somewhat confusing as the given rig may be tied up in some long rent and the available cheapest rent price is then basically different.

Also, you don't seem to include your donation addresses. You may get bored ... Wink

Good point. I'm thinking about pulling the prices from each algo page, which have the available rigs at the top. I'm still trying to decide if I want just the top one or an average of first 3-5 perhaps.

Lack of donation address might have something to do with that gaudy "alpha version" warning

- need to fix up a few things first.

Recently LeaseRig removed public rent history quite understandably. That was just too much data to give away.
But "Last rent price" is still available as from MRR too. Not from BR.
So, I would say your "live" rent prices would be awesome to include:
Cheapest available, cheapest rented, last rent price.

At least this was in my head when dreaming of doing www.pickarig.com.

(Not to mention the feature for providers to be able to put in your hash rate and power data for each algo and hence getting a live indication what is the best to do with your GPU rig atm. I would pay a one time fee for this service if it works correctly.)

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There is increased demand for X11 rigs on the rental sites. Check your pricing

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