Topic: [DISCONTINUED] cryp.today Mining revenue stats Scrypt Scrypt-N X11 X13 - page 34. (Read 144319 times)
May 30, 2014, 11:27:16 AM
Charts have been updated for today. No major changes. WafflePool Scrypt-N numbers can be found at the bottom right of the spreadsheet.
May 30, 2014, 11:25:53 AM
That chart is slowly getting preeetttttty crowded!
Maybe you should make two charts: one with the multipools and one with the rig rentals.
Would allow you to get more stuff compared and improve readability at the same time.
Just my 2 sat.
Maybe you should make two charts: one with the multipools and one with the rig rentals.
Would allow you to get more stuff compared and improve readability at the same time.
Just my 2 sat.
I'm not too happy with it either, but until I can make changes you can use the spreadsheet link - it allows to highlight lines making it more readable. Thanks for the feedback.
May 30, 2014, 09:34:24 AM
That chart is slowly getting preeetttttty crowded!
Maybe you should make two charts: one with the multipools and one with the rig rentals.
Would allow you to get more stuff compared and improve readability at the same time.
Just my 2 sat.
Maybe you should make two charts: one with the multipools and one with the rig rentals.
Would allow you to get more stuff compared and improve readability at the same time.
Just my 2 sat.
May 30, 2014, 04:33:53 AM
what hashrate u got on 290? and 750ti?
On a 290 I got 2.2 MH/s in X11 and 880 KH/s in Scrypt, so the ratio is ~2.5. This is with sph-sgminer and as Accordus mentioned there is a newer version with much better performance for X11.
I have not tried 750 Ti with X11 yet but from what I'm reading ccminer should yield 2+ MH/s, which is pretty impressive for a card that does 250-300 KH/s in Scrypt.
Six Gigabyte 280x installed in 2 PCs:
"scrypt" kernel = 4.35 MH, 1850 W
"dakcoin" kernel doing X11 = 12.6 MH, 960 W
"X11mod" kernel = 19 MH, 1050 W
"x13mod" (latest version) kernel = 15.1 MH, 1050 W
(Three cards are slightly better in Scrypt mode compared to the other three. The difference is only the firmware version. GA is printed on the PCI connector bar's white area for the faster ones. In X11/X13 mode, they perform the same.)
I hope this also helps.
May 30, 2014, 04:01:06 AM
what hashrate u got on 290? and 750ti?
On a 290 I got 2.2 MH/s in X11 and 880 KH/s in Scrypt, so the ratio is ~2.5. This is with sph-sgminer and as Accordus mentioned there is a newer version with much better performance for X11.
I have not tried 750 Ti with X11 yet but from what I'm reading ccminer should yield 2+ MH/s, which is pretty impressive for a card that does 250-300 KH/s in Scrypt.
May 30, 2014, 03:20:22 AM
The actual ratio of X11/Scrypt MH/s is approximately 2.85 on my hardware, if yours is similar then the charts would work well for you. This can vary significantly if you use different mining software or hardware (e.g. R9 290 is worse at X11, 750 Ti is better and so on), not to mention overclocking/tuning. I'm working on a better way to represent all this diversity, but I'm probably still a few weeks away from having a suitable model.
With the new Sgminer version for X11, the X11/Scrpyt ratio went UP HUGELY to 4,36. Six Gigabyte 280x did exactly 19 MH with the improved x11mod kernel.
Total power consumption went up from 950 to 1050 for the rig.
Suchmoon, I can see where this is going... You will have a very hard time to create a meaningful data with all these algo and miner versions with different power consumptions...
May 30, 2014, 01:24:29 AM
what hashrate u got on 290? and 750ti?
May 30, 2014, 12:56:41 AM
Quote from: suchmoon
3) To make Scrypt-N and X11 comparisons meaningful I'm using "scrypt equivalent" hashrate, i.e. the hashrate the same mining rigs (based on AMD R9 GPUs) were generating for scrypt before I repurposed them.
Hi, just wanted to see if I understand this correctly. So... if my previous rigs were at 7 Mh/s on Scrypt and I then moved over to X11, I could just mulitply 7 x various data points from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VOAhFX1XRizdaTp71qnYI5pRh9VIZEQ51LHuGUmxri0/pubhtml# on any given day and that would be the btc/mh/day for X11.
So like for today / 29 May / on trademybit x11 would be 0.00170487 x 7 (7 was my scrypt rig hash power) = 0.01193409. Of course there are all sorts of luck variances and stuff which is why I don't get exactly that number but it's still pretty close. I think I tend to be on the lucky side or just because it's more than 1 mh/s has an affect too since IIRC your calcs are based on 1 Mh rigs at each mining pool variation.
Am I close to understanding the normalization concept? Basically just use my scrypt #'s because everything is like normalized or based off scrypt rigs.
Thanks again for what you do here. If I ever make ROI i'll send some coin your way. For now I fend off dirty looks from my wife :-)
That would be roughly correct if you are using AMD R9 280X/270X GPU's with sph-sgminer - that's what my calculations are based on. The actual ratio of X11/Scrypt MH/s is approximately 2.85 on my hardware, if yours is similar then the charts would work well for you. This can vary significantly if you use different mining software or hardware (e.g. R9 290 is worse at X11, 750 Ti is better and so on), not to mention overclocking/tuning. I'm working on a better way to represent all this diversity, but I'm probably still a few weeks away from having a suitable model.
My numbers tend to be conservative, so if you are doing better then it's working properly
. MH/s shouldn't matter, I'm usually running more than 1 MH/s too, 1.5-3.0 MH/s is my typical rig. Can't help with your 
May 30, 2014, 12:26:43 AM
Quote from: suchmoon
3) To make Scrypt-N and X11 comparisons meaningful I'm using "scrypt equivalent" hashrate, i.e. the hashrate the same mining rigs (based on AMD R9 GPUs) were generating for scrypt before I repurposed them.
Hi, just wanted to see if I understand this correctly. So... if my previous rigs were at 7 Mh/s on Scrypt and I then moved over to X11, I could just mulitply 7 x various data points from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VOAhFX1XRizdaTp71qnYI5pRh9VIZEQ51LHuGUmxri0/pubhtml# on any given day and that would be the btc/mh/day for X11.
So like for today / 29 May / on trademybit x11 would be 0.00170487 x 7 (7 was my scrypt rig hash power) = 0.01193409. Of course there are all sorts of luck variances and stuff which is why I don't get exactly that number but it's still pretty close. I think I tend to be on the lucky side or just because it's more than 1 mh/s has an affect too since IIRC your calcs are based on 1 Mh rigs at each mining pool variation.
Am I close to understanding the normalization concept? Basically just use my scrypt #'s because everything is like normalized or based off scrypt rigs.
Thanks again for what you do here. If I ever make ROI i'll send some coin your way. For now I fend off dirty looks from my wife :-)
May 29, 2014, 03:12:41 PM
How about X13 ?
Are you planning to add profitability measuring?
It is available on Trademybit multipool and already on miningrigrentals.com
I am currently trying to set up my rig.
Are you planning to add profitability measuring?
It is available on Trademybit multipool and already on miningrigrentals.com
I am currently trying to set up my rig.
To be honest I don't have an idea what that is yet
I can see that Betarigs also has something new called Blake-256.
Right now I'm adding one new pool, which is Waffle Scrypt-N. Will look into the others later.
There is an "X13mod" SGminer fork (already an improved version). I get 15,2 for 6 Gigabyte r9 280x.
Miningrigrentals looks straightforward when setting up, but there are hidden tricks with the local conf file setup I had to find out through their great IRC help.
I am rented already at 0.002399 BTC/MH/D which transfers to 0.00832 BTC/MH/D in Scrypt terms.
Prices were around 0.0035 two hours ago.
May 29, 2014, 11:59:35 AM
Charts have been updated for today. I have adjusted Y axis again as we continue to slide down. As I mentioned above I have started collecting data for WafflePool Scrypt-N. Will have some numbers in the spreadsheet tomorrow and might add to the charts in a few days.
May 29, 2014, 11:23:00 AM
How about X13 ?
Are you planning to add profitability measuring?
It is available on Trademybit multipool and already on miningrigrentals.com
I am currently trying to set up my rig.
Are you planning to add profitability measuring?
It is available on Trademybit multipool and already on miningrigrentals.com
I am currently trying to set up my rig.
To be honest I don't have an idea what that is yet
I can see that Betarigs also has something new called Blake-256.
Right now I'm adding one new pool, which is Waffle Scrypt-N. Will look into the others later.
May 29, 2014, 09:45:31 AM
How about X13 ?
Are you planning to add profitability measuring?
It is available on Trademybit multipool and already on miningrigrentals.com
I am currently trying to set up my rig.
Are you planning to add profitability measuring?
It is available on Trademybit multipool and already on miningrigrentals.com
I am currently trying to set up my rig.
May 28, 2014, 06:17:38 PM
Can some one explain why ScryptGuild gives less than waffle or clever mining, even though it mines many coins at same time & converts its to btc?
It probably mines different coins than waffle or clever and is not as sucessful in picking and/or exchanging them. That is essentially the reason for this thread - to compare how well different pools/services perform.
'cept for CoinSolver apparently.
May 28, 2014, 12:00:32 PM
Can some one explain why ScryptGuild gives less than waffle or clever mining, even though it mines many coins at same time & converts its to btc?
It probably mines different coins than waffle or clever and is not as sucessful in picking and/or exchanging them. That is essentially the reason for this thread - to compare how well different pools/services perform.
May 28, 2014, 11:36:33 AM
Can some one explain why ScryptGuild gives less than waffle or clever mining, even though it mines many coins at same time & converts its to btc?
It probably mines different coins than waffle or clever and is not as sucessful in picking and/or exchanging them. That is essentially the reason for this thread - to compare how well different pools/services perform.
May 28, 2014, 11:29:10 AM
Charts have been updated for today. No major changes.
May 28, 2014, 06:05:55 AM
Nice work, and guys, do remember if you are using X11, your power bill is half, so profits are a lot more than the graph leads you to believe. Not to mention the summer savings on AC.
I believe the yields are after expenses so I don't think your point is valid. Still there could be a lot of variation between different setups, locale, etc.
This is income only, expenses are NOT subtracted.
I stand corrected! Thank you.
May 28, 2014, 02:22:00 AM
..... and ~190W per R9 280X mining X11
(After some flood event) I have two PCs each with 3 pieces of R9 280X (Gigabyte) taking 950 W as a whole while doing X11.
If calculating 50W for each PC parts (Mobo, CPU, ...) I arrive to 141 W of power per card.
Did you measure your cards to be 190W?
Or I have some bad config file here and not taking full advantage of the cards. I am hashing 2.1 X11 Mhs on each card. Are you doing maybe better?
My number includes all the "collateral" power usage and it is somewhat overstated / rounded up. I don't think you can exclude motherboard/CPU/cooling/etc from your expenses?
So here is what I'm getting: a four card rig pulls ~3 amps at 240V, approximately 720W. A box fan pulls another ~40W. Total 760W or 190W per card.
It's probably overstated by about 10W since my PDU shows between 2.8 and 3.0 amps and I'm just taking the higher value to be safe.
Hashrate is approximately 2.09 MH/ per card. There is a new version of sgminer floating around that is supposed to do much better, I'll try that next week.
Oh, yes, PC parts and cooling are included of course, I somewhat misunderstood your original line regarding 190 W.
I am at 160 W/card if calculated everything into it but I do not have a fan. (But the worst rain of the year does do damage...)
May 28, 2014, 01:17:25 AM
Can some one explain why ScryptGuild gives less than waffle or clever mining, even though it mines many coins at same time & converts its to btc?
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