Charts have been updated for today. No major changes.
TMB Scrypt had a bad day due to some doge wallet issues
60% orphans from the 8hrs of mining we did on doge. The issue has been resolvedKudo's to this chart -- i check it religiously every day
Topic: [DISCONTINUED] cryp.today Mining revenue stats Scrypt Scrypt-N X11 X13 - page 38. (Read 144321 times)
May 19, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
TMB Scrypt had a bad day due to some doge wallet issues
60% orphans from the 8hrs of mining we did on doge. The issue has been resolvedKudo's to this chart -- i check it religiously every day
May 19, 2014, 11:32:31 AM
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May 19, 2014, 07:29:49 AM
Yes. Yesterday I officially bid my farewell to scrypt and all scrypt coins. It's only gonna get worse, exponentially from now on.
May 18, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
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X11 seems to be where the money is right now. If you haven't ebayed your GPUs yet - check it out. Scrypt-N is doing quite well too.
X11 seems to be where the money is right now. If you haven't ebayed your GPUs yet - check it out. Scrypt-N is doing quite well too.
May 17, 2014, 12:24:42 PM
Charts have been updated for today.
I added NiceHash X11 and removed hashco.ws.
Some changes have been made to chart labels (pool/service names), quote from OP:
One service that doesn't have any suffix is scrypt.cc. It is unclear what exactly they use, nor is it relevant since the user/stakeholder is not in control of that.
I have also started tracking another hosted mining project: Scrypt-X, which is based on Scrypt ASICs and will attempt to reinvest part of its earnings into additional hashpower. It's only in the spreadsheet at the moment.
I added NiceHash X11 and removed hashco.ws.
Some changes have been made to chart labels (pool/service names), quote from OP:
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If pool/service name on the charts has a one-letter suffix it indicates the hashing algorithm: S is Scrypt (as in Litecoin), N is Scrypt-N aka Adaptive N-factor (as in Vertcoin), and X is X11 (as in Darkcoin).
One service that doesn't have any suffix is scrypt.cc. It is unclear what exactly they use, nor is it relevant since the user/stakeholder is not in control of that.
I have also started tracking another hosted mining project: Scrypt-X, which is based on Scrypt ASICs and will attempt to reinvest part of its earnings into additional hashpower. It's only in the spreadsheet at the moment.
May 16, 2014, 10:13:09 PM
Is the consensus that GPU mining is dead? I see ebay being flooded with rigs now and getting concerned about selling mine for any decent amount.
Depending on your electricity cost it can still be reasonably profitable. X11 has waves of good earnings and it's good for cooling (i.e. less need for it). Even plain old Scrypt works quite well with rental services. Do your own math, don't look at eBay.
May 16, 2014, 08:19:59 PM
Is the consensus that GPU mining is dead? I see ebay being flooded with rigs now and getting concerned about selling mine for any decent amount.
When everyone sell - buy for cheap while it lasts. Do not go with a crowd. Real profit is usually in other direction.
But you'll have to wait patiently to reap the rewards in the end.
May 16, 2014, 06:33:07 PM
Is the consensus that GPU mining is dead? I see ebay being flooded with rigs now and getting concerned about selling mine for any decent amount.
May 16, 2014, 11:55:44 AM
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May 15, 2014, 06:00:04 PM
Yes, A2 is in stock, and yes, it is overpriced, and yes, it will match KNC pricing when/if that becomes relevant. Just as Gridseed miners suddenly became price-competitive with A2/Zeus. Margins are huge, lots of room for all sorts of shenanigans, all we can hope for is that increased competition will stabilize the market to some extent. I think I'm currently getting better ROI from Ants and GPUs than all that Scrypt ASIC crud 
Ah, I get what you're saying. If and when KNC (or some other product with significant MH/s per $) ships, the other companies will adjust to compete. Makes sense.
What a whacky market. All this hardware development for what amounts to a small window of viability.
May 15, 2014, 05:01:36 PM
Yes, A2 is in stock, and yes, it is overpriced, and yes, it will match KNC pricing when/if that becomes relevant. Just as Gridseed miners suddenly became price-competitive with A2/Zeus. Margins are huge, lots of room for all sorts of shenanigans, all we can hope for is that increased competition will stabilize the market to some extent. I think I'm currently getting better ROI from Ants and GPUs than all that Scrypt ASIC crud
May 15, 2014, 04:40:50 PM
The "massacre" was meant to be somewhat sarcastic, as I don't think anybody has any real clue as to what and when is going to happen. I tend to think that KNC et al will be late to the party, considering that Innosilicon is already shipping hardware with capacities within the same order of magnitude (~90 MH/s vs KNC's 300 or whatever it is) and there is no reason why they couldn't scale up in a few months. And if Zeus delivers within the next couple of weeks as promised, there will competition, price pressure, etc, so by the time the hyped-up preorders arrive it might not matter anymore. You might be able to pick up IN STOCK hardware for roughly the same $ / MHS as someone who sank in their cash months ago. And no, I don't believe there is going to be a 1 month ROI on any of it - I think scrypt profitability will slide down, likely more gradually than abruptly. Again, that's just my speculation on the subject, and I will probably end up being embarrassingly wrong
I know that some blogs have reviewed the Innosilicon A2 modules, but I didn't think they were in production yet. In any case, their current price per MH/s is much higher than what KNC is promising. Same for the upcoming Zeus products and GAW Miner's clones.
Anyway, as interesting as KNC's numbers are now, they're probably a fantasy. Who knows when they actually will ship and what profitability will look like then.
But if KNC were shipping now and had units in stock, I'd be sorely tempted. At today's difficulty and without considering power costs, the $5.5k Mini at 150 MH/s would generate around $200 per day with straight LTC (slightly better on average with a multipool). Unless difficulty abruptly hockey sticks, you'd have a decent shot at a relatively quick ROI.
Like I said though, it's a fantasy until they actually deliver something...
May 15, 2014, 01:05:45 PM
Haha. the great "Asic massacre of 2014"!!!!
I think it is a term well worth coining Suchmoon, no backing out now ^^.
No matter which way you look at it, if the Asic's come out in the approximate timeframe they are supposed to, there will be a massacre. If nothing else a massacre on "Shitcoins".
In the end it could be great for crypto's. They had a learning period in scrypt and the market will be more learned and well evolved in the new coins, weather it be x11, nscrypt or gristlycoins etc etc etc. Someone will stumble on the new Popular format at some stage and I don't think its going to be the Dark or Anonymous coins, though they may have their part to play!!!
I think scrypt will die with scrypt Asic's, but after that the future for crypto's is bright!
I think it is a term well worth coining Suchmoon, no backing out now ^^.
No matter which way you look at it, if the Asic's come out in the approximate timeframe they are supposed to, there will be a massacre. If nothing else a massacre on "Shitcoins".
In the end it could be great for crypto's. They had a learning period in scrypt and the market will be more learned and well evolved in the new coins, weather it be x11, nscrypt or gristlycoins etc etc etc. Someone will stumble on the new Popular format at some stage and I don't think its going to be the Dark or Anonymous coins, though they may have their part to play!!!
I think scrypt will die with scrypt Asic's, but after that the future for crypto's is bright!
May 15, 2014, 11:50:38 AM
For better or worse, I'm part of the "Big ASIC Massacre of 2014" in a small way. I've mostly used ASICs, with just a bit of GPU dabbling.
So I for one hope that suchmoon keeps at least some reasonable representation of scrypt pool options.
As far as the massacre is concerned, is there any one event that's got you concerned suchmoon? Or is it just that ASICs will continue to gain momentum and lead to the same arms race as happened with bitcoin?
When you look at the ASIC options out there, few of them have any hope of an ROI. I knew that getting into this, but I was more interested in learning about crypto currencies and having fun.
This chart pretty much sums it up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1msn9gC7wgBYdiyOLZLhQifOSKpt3ukdnuTy14m-F-s8/edit#gid=1966313813
Of course math doesn't stop people from buying unprofitable rigs.
The scary ones are the products that haven't shipped yet and actually appear have a decent ROI. If the KnC Titan and Mini Titan actually ship before the bottom drops out of the scrypt market, and if they can ship in quantities needed to meet demand, it looks like they could have a major impact. I have to admit that 150 Mh/s for under $6k and an ROI of a month is pretty interesting...
So I for one hope that suchmoon keeps at least some reasonable representation of scrypt pool options.
As far as the massacre is concerned, is there any one event that's got you concerned suchmoon? Or is it just that ASICs will continue to gain momentum and lead to the same arms race as happened with bitcoin?
When you look at the ASIC options out there, few of them have any hope of an ROI. I knew that getting into this, but I was more interested in learning about crypto currencies and having fun.
This chart pretty much sums it up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1msn9gC7wgBYdiyOLZLhQifOSKpt3ukdnuTy14m-F-s8/edit#gid=1966313813
Of course math doesn't stop people from buying unprofitable rigs.
The scary ones are the products that haven't shipped yet and actually appear have a decent ROI. If the KnC Titan and Mini Titan actually ship before the bottom drops out of the scrypt market, and if they can ship in quantities needed to meet demand, it looks like they could have a major impact. I have to admit that 150 Mh/s for under $6k and an ROI of a month is pretty interesting...
The "massacre" was meant to be somewhat sarcastic, as I don't think anybody has any real clue as to what and when is going to happen. I tend to think that KNC et al will be late to the party, considering that Innosilicon is already shipping hardware with capacities within the same order of magnitude (~90 MH/s vs KNC's 300 or whatever it is) and there is no reason why they couldn't scale up in a few months. And if Zeus delivers within the next couple of weeks as promised, there will competition, price pressure, etc, so by the time the hyped-up preorders arrive it might not matter anymore. You might be able to pick up IN STOCK hardware for roughly the same $ / MHS as someone who sank in their cash months ago. And no, I don't believe there is going to be a 1 month ROI on any of it - I think scrypt profitability will slide down, likely more gradually than abruptly. Again, that's just my speculation on the subject, and I will probably end up being embarrassingly wrong
May 15, 2014, 11:33:40 AM
For what it is worth, I think suchmoon's data is better than the personal data I was collecting. My personal data is contaminated because I've started comingling the small amounts of bitcoin I'm getting back from a HYIP I got scammed in. (btc-arbs.com) Anyway I was looking through his spreadsheet and he is really doing a lot of work to maintain nice data. My dates are also out of whack since I'm GMT+9.
Why do you keep reposting someone else's posts
May 15, 2014, 11:32:55 AM
Charts have been updated for today. No major changes.
May 15, 2014, 09:01:26 AM
For what it is worth, I think suchmoon's data is better than the personal data I was collecting. My personal data is contaminated because I've started comingling the small amounts of bitcoin I'm getting back from a HYIP I got scammed in. (btc-arbs.com) Anyway I was looking through his spreadsheet and he is really doing a lot of work to maintain nice data. My dates are also out of whack since I'm GMT+9.
May 15, 2014, 08:48:48 AM
For better or worse, I'm part of the "Big ASIC Massacre of 2014" in a small way. I've mostly used ASICs, with just a bit of GPU dabbling.
So I for one hope that suchmoon keeps at least some reasonable representation of scrypt pool options.
As far as the massacre is concerned, is there any one event that's got you concerned suchmoon? Or is it just that ASICs will continue to gain momentum and lead to the same arms race as happened with bitcoin?
When you look at the ASIC options out there, few of them have any hope of an ROI. I knew that getting into this, but I was more interested in learning about crypto currencies and having fun.
This chart pretty much sums it up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1msn9gC7wgBYdiyOLZLhQifOSKpt3ukdnuTy14m-F-s8/edit#gid=1966313813
Of course math doesn't stop people from buying unprofitable rigs.
The scary ones are the products that haven't shipped yet and actually appear have a decent ROI. If the KnC Titan and Mini Titan actually ship before the bottom drops out of the scrypt market, and if they can ship in quantities needed to meet demand, it looks like they could have a major impact. I have to admit that 150 Mh/s for under $6k and an ROI of a month is pretty interesting...
So I for one hope that suchmoon keeps at least some reasonable representation of scrypt pool options.
As far as the massacre is concerned, is there any one event that's got you concerned suchmoon? Or is it just that ASICs will continue to gain momentum and lead to the same arms race as happened with bitcoin?
When you look at the ASIC options out there, few of them have any hope of an ROI. I knew that getting into this, but I was more interested in learning about crypto currencies and having fun.
This chart pretty much sums it up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1msn9gC7wgBYdiyOLZLhQifOSKpt3ukdnuTy14m-F-s8/edit#gid=1966313813
Of course math doesn't stop people from buying unprofitable rigs.
The scary ones are the products that haven't shipped yet and actually appear have a decent ROI. If the KnC Titan and Mini Titan actually ship before the bottom drops out of the scrypt market, and if they can ship in quantities needed to meet demand, it looks like they could have a major impact. I have to admit that 150 Mh/s for under $6k and an ROI of a month is pretty interesting...
May 14, 2014, 09:16:45 PM
I want to rent some rig. I need a renter that has reliable supporter. what sites has it?
If you are looking to rent hashrate, i.e. you want to mine some coin and don't have your own hardware, take a look at nicehash, I think it's the quickest way to get started. Betarigs.com and LeaseRig.net offer more control but are a bit more expensive.
If I misunderstood your question please clarify and I'll try to help.
May 14, 2014, 07:57:12 PM
These charts are awesome suchmoon. I have been trying to learn about these crypto's lately and in general I have to thank you for your explanations across many threads here.
I wonder what Scrypt.cc plan to do with X11 mining and hashrates. I would be tempted to buy into them no as it just looks easy and seems quite cheap at the moment, but due to the imminent "ASIC massacre of 2014" will hold off too see what they do with X11 or look elsewhere!
I wonder what Scrypt.cc plan to do with X11 mining and hashrates. I would be tempted to buy into them no as it just looks easy and seems quite cheap at the moment, but due to the imminent "ASIC massacre of 2014" will hold off too see what they do with X11 or look elsewhere!
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