Topic: Discrimination against bounty hunters - page 2. (Read 647 times)

This is how online interaction works, you should never expect people be too nice with you, especially when you make mistakes or post inaccuracies.
Get the useful part off it and ignore the rest; don't worry too much.

It should not be allowed. I think members that only post here for bounties should be banned or limit the bounty board to only members who have received at least 1 merit in the last year that should stop the abuse. Some thing should be done about it because there are members here with 500+ posts that only post in bounties.

I know it brings views to the forum but they are artificial because I bet most of them are bots because it is a simple task to automate and why would you do it manually if you do not care about the forum any way you would automate it to save you time. I do not know why bounties are popular because most of the tokens are worth 0 at the end of the campaign.

There are two kinds of bounty hunters. There are those who ONLY do bounties and nothing else. You can recognize them as accounts having hundreds and thousands of posts without a single merit. And there are bounty hunters who partake in bounties and use the forum the way it was intended - talking and reading about Bitcoin.

The first group are a problem. Not a problem as much as they are useless to the functioning of the forum. Imagine going out with 5 friends. The four of you speak with each other normally and discuss various topics. The 5th one doesn't take part in your conversations, but he is a nuisance because he insists on barking out random words and sentences. What's going to happen with this person with time? People will stop hanging out with him. That's your average bounty hunter. Posting links to his social media reports that don't help anyone. No one reads them and no one cares.

If you post in topics that interest you like a normal human being, people will take you seriously and care about what you have to say. If all you do is post links from your Twitter page without ever talking with anyone, what kind of response do you think you will see from the community? It can't be a positive one. It simply can't. 

I have no problem with members that participate in bounties if they are contributing positively to the forum I hate when members sign up and do not contribute in any topics except for bounties that is just using this forum for personal gain and they are not part of the community. I wish bounties were removed from the forum because except for views they do not offer much to the community. Can 1 of the stats guys get how many active members have posted in a bounty topic but no where else in the last month?

Let me be frank with you here that you're wrong from the perspective of how you're addressing this, show me one bounty hunter who has good profile on his post history that never get merited and i will admit then that you're right, wjen it's been said that most of them were spammers doesn't mean all were, if you also consider them to be most newbies, they just created account and rush up to join bounties which you dare not try that with signature campaign.

You can't obviously accept a participant that has no good profile to advertise your campaign and work with you, they may be inactive, spammers, trollers or even scammers, as a matter of fact, they also have their respective rules which if you can't afford it's not by force, all what every campaign manager would wanted is a good and active user profile that has interesting contributions, have you ever asked this question as well that why do bounties hunters always have nothing on their profiles than bounty threads?



No, you'd better not be sentimented about this, participating in campaigns is not a right, it's a choice likewise the manager decides who to work with him and not, so don't try to create being bias either.

You could have just gotten the fact instead of creating a thread like this, so many bounty hunters do not contribute to the health of this forum, a forum is a place of discussion and learning I would like to give you an example

See this profile I did not include the username but do check his activity how can a member of this forum had
1169 posts, 392 activity, has 0 merits he is still a newbie because he has no intention or motivation to rank up because those over 1000 posts are all bounty reports.

What will happen if all countries ban cryptos and prices plunge to zero?
What will happen if Theymos is arrested and the forum is seized?
What will happen if Satoshi comes back and says this is Bitcointalk, not Altcoins talk, and trashes the entire section?
What if Musk decided that all those accounts involved in bounties are against the ToS and bans every single one that is caught spamming 100 posts a day?
How have 7 billion survived to date without bounties, how is the entire world still spinning around even if "projects" are fewer and fewer and the payments lower and lower? You have some really weird egocentric view where you think this is the only way for things to still go on and the only way for some people to cling to hope for the better and a "raison de vivre". Well, it's not!

As for how can people be aware of new projects, hmm, how many bounties has Satoshi run for Bitcoin? Has Ethereum also run a bounty here?
We have 398 pages of bounties, do you think you can make more than one page of topics of coins that are still alive out of those?
You see, anyone can fire one hundred questions just as you did, do you have an answer for all of them?!


Respect is earned, not given!
LE just to make sure:
A guy that wakes up at 4 am for the crappy low-paying job he has and does this every day without bickering once has all my respect, a guy that makes clicks 100 times a day and demands respect for that will not have any of it!

Discrimination Wrong choice of words mate!

Truth be told, most users doing the bounty hunting hardly contribute towards the forum by engaging in a meaningful conversation, it's all about social media posts, eth addresses, and in some cases plagiarism! I suppose this is among the reasons such bounty hunters are easily classed as spammers, and of course not all of them fall into this bracket.

This one is easy, the forum will have less spam

You didnt have to drag his name into this because you were making a discrimination case and this kind of moves away from the topic at hand..

So many great projects have come from that section of the forum & it's serving its purpose well if you ask me...Btw this also clearly shows that the problem isn't the board.. its the user's appetite for greed that has contributed towards the spam which many frown upon and has left a bad name for that board. Its about time users explored other parts of the forum as bitcointalk isn't only about bounty hunting.

Wow! I'm really impressed with the responds and clarification from you all though it seems some people are misunderstanding the post. I clearly stated in my post that I stand to be corrected and tbh I have been schooled.

You ask and discriminate too much, are all the questions important to you, then what's in it for you.

Just short.
• Altcoin/Bounty Board including crypto section, Bitcointalk didn't put it on the front, you are wrong to see Altcoin Board is the deepest and tip, Bitcoin discussion board is the main one, if you double check, not Altcoin/Bounty.
Participants are looked down upon, because they are stubborn, don't follow the manager's written rules, they like to do spam, instead of promoting campaign ads well, they do multi and spam. not all of them are looked down upon, many are considered authoritative and great.

• Participants who don't want to participate or stop in the Bounty campaign, that's a good thing, if it happens, Fact I don't see that right happening, they are like bees into the hive, if there is a new Bounty.
Let's say what you said happens, we will see companies will hire participants with Bitcoin fees, not with scam tokens, isn't that better.

I can only conclude two questions, in my opinion the other questions, more personal/individual in nature and more attacking towards someone, may not need to be answered.

OP, pls don't overjudge. In essence, high-rank members care about hunters even if they're sometimes too discriminatory (sorry about that), judgmental, rectifying, or defensive. So, that's how things are going around forum folks.

It's actually a personal choice and I think all managers know that there is no type of job in this forum that deserves to be the main job.

there is no discrimination on accounts joining the bounty campaign. what makes the difference is the spam post that is done. and I guess when you see that kind of spam and report it to the moderators, then it's over. moderators will take care of it.
not all accounts joining the bounty campaign are low ranked ones. those who join the signature bounty campaign also rank highly. it's just that such a campaign is very limited. I will not talk about other bounty campaigns. because most of the accounts that join do not make other posts outside of the bounty thread.

If you're not a bounty hunter why the concern, why are you not concern on the spam these bots are created in the forum

I am also a bounty hunter but compared to some bounty hunters they only post their reports they never roam around to check other sections and contribute to the discussion and many of them are not checking the project that they are promoting, I've seen bounty campaigns where bounty hunters continue posting their reports even though the campaign was tagged as a scam project, some accounts are bots all they care here is joining a campaign and creating reports, this is a forum and as a member it's your duty to contribute to discussions

It has nothing to do with discrimination. The truth is, most bounty hunters are just spammers, cheats involving bots and farms of accounts owned by a few individuals.
Haven't you seen posts made by bots?
Even when the bounty campaign has ended, they still continue posting Proof of authentication posts and reports. How can you not feel bad about such?

the bounty section was created to keep spammers in one place. before the separation of the bounty section, it was almost impossible to have a constructive discussion, especially in ANN threads.


Not everyone who manages a bounty campaign is a manager. only a few of them will refuse to run a campaign if they think it is a potential scam project.
and the answer to your question is that they are greedy, like most bounty hunters.


I would like to see that.


most of those "projects" are just rubbish and just try to get easy money. the effectiveness of the bounty campaign is not that important to them.
if we look at the fact that 99% of projects are scams, then hunters can be considered as accomplices in fraud.


The bounty program is just a small part of marketing promotion. things happened even before that and there are various other ways of promotion. The mass opening of bounty campaigns, where the participants are automated multi-accounts, led to a complete drop in the quality of this kind of promotion.
ask yourself about the quality of what hunters offer with posts like "nice project", "good job"...


it's hard to give them respect because they appear everywhere with their empty stories just to fill the campaign quota. if they only stuck to their sections, no one would have a problem with them.

FYI, forum treats everyone same either they are bounty hunters or High quality poster cause the same rules applies for everyone no matter what. And I can't say everything in the Altcoin board is completely spams there are very few which has actual discussion is going on but compared to number of those Post with the posts made only for completing the campaign post requirement quota then it comes anywhere near.

I don't like spammers, which includes bounty spammers. If you want to call that discrimination, I'm fine with that.

I would argue. Since I often watch bounty sections, I can say that if we see accounts honestly participating in bounties that do not violate any rules, no one will ever accuse them of being useless. I will say more. You are not speaking here in a completely quiet tone, but with some kind of pretension. But what can you say about the fact that it is allowed to have several accounts here? Is this discrimination?

Yes, participation in a bounty from one account will not bring a lot of money, and most often it will not bring anything. But bounty hunters are so greedy that when they have multiple accounts, they don't know how to handle them properly. I'm more than sure that everyone who participates in the bounty has several accounts, but some are so stupid that you just can't close your eyes to them.

Therefore, lower your ardor and the role of Robinhood. There are rules; if you please, follow them. Tell me, on what other forum can I participate with several accounts and at the same time receive some money?

Your "submission" is, first of all, a wall of text. If you want to be taken seriously you should start with making posts that can be read effortlessly.

Then, your premises are incorrect. The fact that it's especially lower rank members jumping in without second thought into bounties is their own fault. If they would not be so keen to see posting as a means of income and just use the forum as a forum (and see the income for their posts as a bonus) then everything would be better. But that comes with experience, and with experience the better rank also is there.

So imho the participants are looked down upon because of their own behavior.
Plus, it's not the bounty managers those who bring new bounties. It's the various projects and businesses. The bounty managers only manage all that.
You have so many questions it's difficult to answer them all. I wish the bounty hunters come to their senses someday and think before joining to campaigns. Maybe some campaign managers will have tough days for a while, but afterwards the things may get better: better managers, meaningful payments, better rules too ... because I expect huge levels of meaningless posts in those campaigns.


I've seen plenty of meaningful discussions without being technical. The fact you don't see that, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
This being said, I think that your... proposals are based on incorrect fundaments, but I admit, I didn't read carefully every word you've written.

Plus, I don't understand your problem:
* Is it that some bounty hunters are not being accepted to campaigns? Well, maybe better ones got accepted and the (limited!) places got filled?
* Is it that they spam too much? Report the spam at sight!
* Is it that some bounty hunters or bounty managers see this as a daily job? It's a risk they take and it can easily turn bad. But it's their choice.


This is a forum. You know, a place people discuss.. preferably about bitcoin and altcoins. Somehow far too many keep forgetting that... sadly.

The forum is as free as possible, if anybody wants to be a bounty hunter, it is up to them and the admin are not going to stop people from participating in bounties, but when people say they are not contributing positively to the forum, that is very correct. This is a discussion forum, and the 'work' that most bounty hunters do is outside of the forum, they only use the forum to post reports of what they did on other platforms, meaning they are not involved in any discussion in the forum. If everyone in the forum was posting only bounty reports, the forum would be a pile of shit right now. Members can do bounties if they like, but don't argue that it isn't a positive to the forum.
It improves the forum because that is what the forum is for, there are other sides to BTC than its technical aspect. E.G guding newbies how to store their BTC, helping to answer questions, and warning that centralized exchanges aren't banks, etc, all aren't technical discussions, but they are important and worthy to be discussed, and way better than posting only bounty reports.