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Topic: [Discussion] Blocks signalling SegWit Support - page 2. (Read 1280 times)

legendary
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November 24, 2016, 12:19:15 PM
#8
 Grin i prefer compact block.  Cheesy
legendary
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November 24, 2016, 08:40:57 AM
#7
I think:

pool operators, Bitcoin core representatives, and all alternative Bitcoin implementations teams need to gather to discuss their concerns and come to a compromise. Otherwise Segwit won't be activated.

I think you're wrong.

There's no need to compromise with "big blockists", as Segwit introduces bigger blocks. Simple, huh?
legendary
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November 24, 2016, 08:39:38 AM
#6
Graph which you mentioned probably shows 2016 blocks average. 144 blocks average is more relevant now, since signalling begun much later than

no

the RULE. the CODE. the BIP is about 95% of 2016 blocks.. (not average of 24 hours)
Most blocks in 2016 interval were mined before the signalling has begun. So you just don't have that statistic yet. Imagine 100% of blocks flag support of segwit. 2016 blocks average would be 41-42% now, it would however reach 100% in several days. With current ~20% segwit signalling blocks, 2016 blocks average will stabilize around the same value: ~20% in several days, it won't go higher, unless short term average goes higher.

yes and thats why the 20% is an opinion poll because the election has not been open long enough to have vote counts. but treating the opinion poll as the metric of activation and most important, is a failure of understanding.

as you say votes should be about 41-42%...... yet votes are at 8%

again blue line=opinion poll.. red line vote count.

there is nothing wrong with discussing opinion poll.. but atleast discuss it in the context of opinion rather than factual status of votes
hero member
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November 24, 2016, 08:30:22 AM
#5
Graph which you mentioned probably shows 2016 blocks average. 144 blocks average is more relevant now, since signalling begun much later than

no

the RULE. the CODE. the BIP is about 95% of 2016 blocks.. (not average of 24 hours)
Most blocks in 2016 interval were mined before the signalling has begun. So you just don't have that statistic yet. Imagine 100% of blocks flag support of segwit. 2016 blocks average would be 41-42% now, it would however reach 100% in several days. With current ~20% segwit signalling blocks, 2016 blocks average will stabilize around the same value: ~20% in several days, it won't go higher, unless short term average goes higher.
legendary
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November 24, 2016, 08:04:13 AM
#4
Graph which you mentioned probably shows 2016 blocks average. 144 blocks average is more relevant now, since signalling begun much later than

no

the RULE. the CODE. the BIP is about 95% of 2016 blocks.. (not average of 24 hours)

the important thing is
https://blockchain.info/charts/bip-9-segwit

the other metric of "average" "24 hours".. is not important.. it is just a generalised thing.

much like presidential elections.
the important thing is the vote count. however people can talk about short term 'polls' that change daily to gain some insight as to the 'ifs' and 'maybes' but choosing to think of polls as more important then the actual vote count is ludicrous, especially if the poll changes from 25%-14% 26%-16% at any time. its not a worthy metric.

if anything
use this..
http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ver9-10k.png

and yes its made by the guy that done segwit. that shows the 2 figures together

the "poll" (short term opinion) in blue
the "votes" (actual results that the code/rules look at) in red
legendary
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November 24, 2016, 07:57:14 AM
#3
in short.

dont expect it by christmas
hero member
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November 24, 2016, 07:53:40 AM
#2
Graph which you mentioned probably shows 2016 blocks average. 144 blocks average is more relevant now, since signalling begun much later than 2016 blocks ago.
https://bitcoincore.org/en/segwit_adoption/
2016 blocks average won't go above ~20% unless shorter term average goes up.
I think pool operators, Bitcoin core representatives, and all alternative Bitcoin implementations teams need to gather to discuss their concerns and come to a compromise. Otherwise Segwit won't be activated.
staff
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November 24, 2016, 07:28:36 AM
#1
You can check the current percentage at : https://blockchain.info/charts/bip-9-segwit

Percentage is currently 8% which is low If we take in consideration that we need to have 95% but It's increasing daily, do you think we are going to reach it or there is no chance and SegWit won't be activated ?

It's an open discussion so feel free to say your opinion about the whole SegWit thing and not only about Signalling.
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