Topic: [DISCUSSION] Candidate for the next Merit Source. (Read 1474 times)

Naka-private yung spreadsheet, try to make it public para hindi na mag-request for access yung mga staying anonymous dito sa forum na gustong makita yung buong sheet. Para di narin hassle sa kanila magpalit ng dummy email para lang mag-access.

Also, the 3 links, tama ba yung na-send mo kasi links yan ng mga section dito sa forum?

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Thanks edited na, Open for public na yung spreadsheet.  
If may time ka, lagyan mo na rin ng additional design na pleasing sa mata.

Happy to hear that, sana naman maging active pa lalo at sabay sabay na kayong mag-apply as source. The more the merrier diba? just kidding  

Unting activities nalang need niyan ni asu then 100+ merits, Malapit ka na mag-legendary and hoping na maabot mo agad without any circumstances, hahabol nalang din kami nila @cabalism13, @GreatArkansas @crwth @bl4nkcde atbp.

haha hindi ko alam kung makakalikom ka ng 100+ merits sa post na gagawin mo pero alam ko mapapalapit ka na sa legendary rank. Actually, iniisip ko nga din yung magiging data na makukuha mo lalo na ngayon magkakaroon ng "activity boost" ang lokal dahil sa latest sig campaign. Mukhang maraming Pinoy ang nanunumbalik  

Abangan ko yan bukas.

Edit: Kita ko na din yung data sa spreadsheet sa baba. Interesting yung daily activities pero bukas na natin pag-usapan kapag nagawan na ng topic.

Una, magiging legendary na ba ako sa topic na to ? I put a lot of effort here. Everyday in the morning 8:00 AM PH TIME I am always archiving these 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=219.0, and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=243.0.

Update: September 21-27 (1st week)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-IXT3xOp-QHK0yJx43n7-0M1EnUw3ipY7R1tObCTcus

Tomorrow Monday gagawa ako ng topic about dito and ito na ang magiging pangatlo ko na weekly updates again. For the sake of local board, here I am doing these

On our local board having 3 merit sources:

Binalikan ko yung merit application ni cabalism13 sa Meta and he was very specific sa request niya na kailangan ng 1 active merit source dito. For some reason, our 2 mods stopped giving or rarely gives merits sa mga posts sa local board natin recently. From the time na naaprubahan yung application ni cabalism13, tignan natin kung mas nag-improve ba dito. Ibig ko sabihin, tumaas ba ang activity at mas dumami ba ang mga merit worthy posts?

Makakatulong siguro yung data na makukuha ni asu kung ipu-push ba natin ang isa pang active merit source.


Pwede na siguro pagbasehan ang monthly activities mula nung na-grant yung request ni cabalism.


Interesado din ako malaman kung ano kalalabasan ng data gathering mo. Salamat in advance.

It's hard to tell the real point pero let's say na one is enough as a source in our local. Sige okay na yon, kasi karamihan ang sinasabi, we don't need another source for our local. Pero yung allocation nalang per thread that has been exerted by great effort, hoping na hindi same sa mga normal or common threads na makikita lang natin from different platforms lalong lalo na sa facebook, twitter, and other social media platforms. Kasi may mga educational post rin naman na ako na nakikita sa social media platform.

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If someone is trying to search for more technical which is hindi naman madaling aralin, he/she deserves more right? if not then I can say na sayang lang din ang effort niya. I-based natin sa allocation, hindi sa responsibility para mas madaling i-organize kung need pa ba natin. Kasi alam naman natin na kapag binigyan ng position, we'll do our best pero hindi lahat ng best natin ay best na rin para sa ibang tao.

I might say yes or might also say no into this, sa ngayon hindi ko pa talaga nakikitang kinakapos ako katulad nung 1st month ko as a Source, and besides may point si theyoungmillionaire seasonal ang quality posts satin, atsaka dahil na din sa 100 sMerits ko na kailangan kong tipirin for 30days kinakailangan kong mamili ng talagang karapat dapat. Pero sakin hindi ibig sabihin na hindi ito sapat, dahil dito nalalaman ng bawat ang isa ang batayan sa pagkamit ng Merits.

Several weeks ago I tried to stop awarding translated topics and just plain news that has been linked into this Board, dahil sa tingin ko hindi na sya appropriate, sabihin na natin yung nandun yung effort para makatulong sa iba pero it doesn't mean na we have to get an award for doing such thing. Kung napansin din nyo nung tinigilan ko ang pagbibigay ng Merits sa mga translated topics tumigil na din ang pagsulpot nito.

I'm still trying and working on my ass to pick posts that I think its truly deserving. Some opinions feedbacks replies comments na nakikita ko gustong kong bigyan pero hindi pa natin panahon para maging mabait ng husto, sa nakikita ko we should still keep on working, dahil sa palagay ko ay ngoobserba din ang ibang source kung papaano ang distribution dito sa atin.

Kung panahon na talaga at nagigipit ako magmemessage ulit ako sa Admin para madagdagan ang allocation ng sMerits ko. Take note: everyone can be a Source, many of us here has been already an established user of the forum, I will support those users who wants to apply but please take into consideration na kung kailangan ba talaga natin ang magdagdag ng Source lalo na kung less than 100 users lang ang active dito sa local.

I asked Ddmrddmr to help me as well para sa local board. Unfortunely possible yung na recommend mo pero for monthly basis only. And for daily n weekly magiging mahirap siya ma retrieve yung old topics and posts, so basically that means yung present na lang yung marerecord or pwedeng ma-gather na data and that’s today if ever na mag start ako.

Tomorrow September 21, 2019 9:00:00 AM (PH TIME) exact time ng september 21 dito sa forum I’ll be starting gathering daily created thread and posts.

First of all, welcome back @theyoungmillionaire!  

Yes, yun nga rin ang pinakaproblema, regarding sa quality post dito sa local walang wala talaga pero pwedeng i-counter if tayo mismo magiinitiate ayusin. Para nalang din sa fairness sa bawat isa, para mabigay ang nararapat na merits sa mga deserving kasi one is not enough sa mga nageexert ng effort.


Some of them, gusto talaga mag merit source kaso mukhang naiisip nila na hindi pa right time. Ako, personally, additional gawain lang pero if sisipagin, pabor sakin ang pagiging merit source if magbibigay lang naman ng merits sa mga thread at mukhang magandang opportunity rin ito since ang agenda ko naman dito from the beginning is to help our local. Pero no one knows, di talaga ako masipag and busy sa school minsan.


For me, it's fine kasi tayo rin magbebenefit non, para sa good naman at deserve ng karamihan sa atin lalo na yung mga binanggit mo @darker45 and especially you na deserve makareceive ng more than 1. We will consider your opinion regarding about adding another merit source, I hope na maging maayos, fair at lahat nagbebenefit sa kung ano meron ngayon ang local board natin.

Same here. However, mukhang hindi pa naman ganun kadaming quality post talaga sa local.
Seen also cabalism13's effort to distribute enough merit sa local board natin, sadyang seasonal lang talaga ang quality post sa atin or sabihin na natin kung walang signature campaign talagang dead ang local board.
 
Thumbs up! The question is "Are they willing to take the responsibility?" We can just drop names here, but still, it is on their inclination to the responsibility, not just the title.

Pending merit source applications indicates that theymos don’t need additional sources. Also, I think it is not yet the right time to apply. We actually have 3 merit sources on our local board, which might be a factor on theymos decision sa pagpili nang bagong merit sources or kung need ba talagang magdagdag nang merit sources, aside sa quality post.

Okay, tignan natin kung merong bagong pananaw. Interesado din ako malaman kung ano na ang opinyon ng iba sa kalagayan ng lokal ngayon. Napansin ko din na dumarami ang mga nag-rereply at gumagawa ng sariling thread.

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Salamat sa pag-rekomenda
Sa lahat ng nasa listahan mo, sa tingin ko si @asu o kaya si @greatarkansas ang nararapat maging pangalawang merit source base sa naiambag na nila dati at sa recent activities nila sa lokal. Isa pa, pakiramdam ko interesado din sila. If @finaleshot is also interested, pasok din siya sa listahan.

Eto yung dahilan kaya ako nag-request kay @asu ng data tungkol sa activity dito. With numbers, pwede na natin ma-verify at pwede din gawing basehan ng sinumang susunod na merit source applicant.

All right, to contribute my additional couple of cents to this discussion, I have always been in favor of an additional merit source to our local. I guess cabalism13's regular merit allocation as a source may not be enough.

I now have a longer list of local active and constructive posters to whom my support goes if in case they will apply as a merit source.

• crwth
• theyoungmillionaire
• GreatArkansas
• finaleshot2016
• mjglqw
• asu
• harizen

Even the following members with lower ranks are very active and could become our additional merit source:

• rosezionjohn
• maxreish
• Bttzed03

After all, theymos is not requiring that the merit source should be of a high rank. All he asks is that the source should:


While the lack of quality posts here in our local is indeed a problem, somehow it has now improved. The local has gone livelier now as compared months before. The bigger problem is that nobody has applied for the position except crwth. And even his application is not approved. Perhaps somebody has to step forward and apply once more. Otherwise, even if the local needs one, nobody will become the next merit source.

Yes, obviously ang daming arguments pero no one give any thoughts about my arguments, kumbaga balewala. So if someone already gives their opinion, hindi na ba sila pwede magbigay ulit ng thoughts regarding my arguments, this is supposed to be a discussion thread pero oone statement is enough na pala.
 
If you read the whole thread, possible kasing masolusyunan yung issue if tayo mismo ang nagiinitiate magbigay at mas lalong magiging active sila. Actually marami ngang good threads ngayon at nakakasatisfying basahin, hindi mga fake conversations/shitbumpers. Hindi kasi maramdaman yung issue kasi nagbebenefit na yung iba sa current situation.

What do you want respondents to debate about? Kung nararapat ba yung mga taong nirerekomenda para maging merit source?

Kung tungkol sa whether kailangan o hindi, it doesn't look like anyone is willing to change their view on this. The sentiment is "to each his/her own". The discussion is about the next/future merit source pero yung argument lang is hindi pa kailangan sa ngayon. Maybe an admission na kailangan ng merit source kapag na-address yung concern o issue nila which is more quality threads or replies.



Terminology ko:
comments = replies to topics/threads/posts
(own) posts = topics/threads

Anyway, maraming salamat. 

You mean daily/weekly/monthly posts and thread not comments right? kasi parehas lang ang comments and posts. I’ll try to gather the data for it and provide the stats as soon as possible.

The thoughts or opinions of those person na naunang magbigay ng pahayag ang mas priority natin since sila din ang cons for having another merit source. 
This is a debatable topic, I hope people here should care what's happening kasi lahat tayo makikinabang dito.

Unless may bagong pananaw ang mga nauna ng nagpahayag ng kanilang opinyon, mas maganda kung mga bago naman mag-comment dito. May nakikita akong mga bagong accounts (nagbabalik loob), sana lang makita din nila ito.

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Off-topic:

@asu - May oras ka ba gumawa ng thread kung saan makikita natin ang daily/weekly/monthly posts at comments ng lokal natin? Hindi ko maalala kung meron na nyan. Kung meron man, paki-reply na lang.

I'll gonna bring this topic up again kasi feel ko need talaga natin ng another merit source.

I need more discussion kasi ang dami ng nagbigay ng thoughts dito regarding sa dagdag ng merit source pero wala pa akong nakikitang magandang sagot until now sa cons, it's just a personal desires?

This thread has a lot more sense than the other topics kung totoong may care talaga sa local, try to contribute any opinions kasi wala namang mali, lahat naman tinatanggap pero may natatalo sa debate right?

I'm hoping this to thread to become a debatable topic pero walang may kayang pandigan or i-prove na tama yung sinasabi nila.  


I think para mas maging fair na yung local natin, let's support kung sino man ang magaapply sa pagiging merit source. All I can see here are pure personal lang yung mga actions, let's build our local here.

Lilinawin ko lang, child board para sa mga non-bitcoin posts ang tinutukoy ko kagaya na lamang ng mga usapin na local forum related (usapin sa merits, mungkahi sa local forum improvements, atbp.).

Dapat siguro sa ibang thread na ito pagusapan. Ibang topic na din kasi. Dito siguro mas nararapat https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/other-sections-for-this-forum-1348035


EDIT: Tungkol sa paraan kung paano kumita dito, maliban sa pagsali sa mga signature at bounty campaigns, peede mo din i-offer mga skills mo kagaya ng paggwa ng signature, escrow, community management services atbp. More on service board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

I disagree too with adding another childboard here. I don't say that it will cause shitposting and spam since most bounty campaigns doesn't require posting on Locals that much but it will become inactive because of lack of users interacting with each other. Sa altcoin and Bitcoin discussion section, dun mostly nagtatago ang mga spammers na nagpopost ng mga one liners and sad to say, ilan nating kababayan ay dun lang nagpopost. Sa tingin ko hindi madadagdagan ng spam dito sa seksyon natin if may childboard man dahil hindi naman required ng signature bounty campaigns ang magpost sa Local section pero still, magiging inactive to hanggang sa magiging useless.

It will serve but it will be distributed to a number of users here. As I observed, there are only around 10-20 users interacting with each other in the Local section (or maybe more). There are many Philippinan Bro users here but sadly, they are not interacting with us for some reasons. To be honest, I think most of my merits came from this section and that is why I'm motivated to post here more often (even my payments in my sig. campaign decreases by a bit).

I strongly agree, Kung ang active users na gusto natin ay mahirap makuha, hindi na rin ako siguro pabor para maglagay pa ng childboard about sa off topic because it will cause more casualties like shitposting and spam. For your information, may dalawa kasing klase ng campaign, ang BTC campaign sa  Services, yun ang madalas namin salihan because in favor ang mga campaign manager nila for quality posting. While the other is bounty campaign, mostly mga spam post at puro sa alt coin discussion lagi ang mga post nila. So if ever na magkakaroon lang ng childboard about sa ibang topic, it will just be spammed by bounty participants.

Still, even we lack active users, merits will serve as motivation kaya kahit sabihin mong bihira ka lang mag-post sa local pero kung dito ka naman madalas makareceive ng merits, mas gaganahan ka. Sino ba namang may ayaw makapagrank-up for a higher amount of payment?