Topic: [DISCUSSION] Candidate for the next Merit Source. - page 4. (Read 1417 times)

I already came up to those advantages/positive effects at siguro naman kahit sinong tao maiisip yung disadvantage or advantages of adding another merit source sa current situation natin diba? It's quite obvious.  

Like what I've said.

Let's not be negative to our situation na baka ma-hoard lang yung sMerits, na-mention ko rin naman sa main topic na hindi naman ngayon, for future purposes.


It doesn't mean na naghahanap ng possible merit source ay ngayon na siya mag-aapply. So are we sure that we didn't need to add someone in the near future? How did they predict those? What's the probability of having the same situation pagdating ng susunod na taon? no one knows.
So what about last time? Did the local really needs a merit source kung ang mga moderators at higher-ups natin ay nagbibigay ng merits? Even the highest merit receiver @theyoung is sharing his/her sMerits here in the local board.

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Agree.  


And that's what we need to talk about. We're in a big community here, depende nalang kung ayaw makipagcoordinate ng iba because they have a different circle of friends here in bitcointalk.

Marami na nagsabi na hindi kailangan ng panibagong merit source at well explained din naman yung dahilan.

No offense sa existing merit source natin but I think yung isang purpose ng dagdag na merit source ay magkaroon ng ibang perspective pagdating sa kung ano ang merit worthy post. Naalala niyo pa ba nung nagpaulan si @Darkstar_ dito? Ang daming nagka-merit na hindi nabigyan dati. Let's admit it, hindi natin maiiwasan ang maging subjective kung nararapat bang mabigyan ng merit ang isang post.

Yes that's a possibility, but the bulleted points haven't got any massive effect on the local board natin even @cabalism has been chosen na maging isang merit source, I'm guessing na kahit mapili pa ang pangalawa the outcome will be the same unless another good-paying signature campaign will pop up na promote local sections IMHO.

Kaya ang ginagawa ko kung may nakuha man akong mga sMerits from other boards I am making sure some of those be spent here rather hoarding them but sad to say it is really few kaya minsan kahit ang isang topic na nasendan ko na minsan nasendan ko parin or humanap ng ibang user that deserving of those sMerits.

Let's be simple.
There will be good effects and negative effects pag madadagdagan ang merit source.
Para sa akin lang to ha. Ito lang ang aking magiging opinyon  

Possible negative effects

• Madaming masasayang na source merit.
  (Naka depende ito sa magiging basehan ni Merit Source kung anong klaseng posts ang gusto niyang bigyan ng merit)
• Expect more spam posts/off-topic posts/shit posts dahil posibli na mapipilitan na lang yung ibang merit source na mag bigay kahit shitpost.
  (Kasi diba every 30days nag re-refill ang source merit at ang di nagamit ay mawawala lang)
• Merit buying/selling
• Account farming

Possible positive effects

• Madami ang magiging active sa local natin.
• Madami ang mag rarank-up
• Optional: Madami magiging quality active member with quality posts

Feel free to add  
Halos mga connected lang mga bawat opinyon ko about jan, just my 2 cents, make sense na lang..

Kahit nga yung unang merit source natin nagrereklamo wala na gaanong quality posts na deserved bigyan ng merit. Aanhin natin yung madaming source merit kung walang karapat dapat bigyan, magbubunga lang talaga yan ng pinsala if gagamitin yun sa mga masama like selling/buyng merit.

Para sa akin kahit hindi ka merit source ay makakatulong ka pa din magpakalat ng merit (lalo na sa board natin, basta siyempre dun lng sa deserving na posts), lalo ako parang overall ko na na send na merits ay kadamihan dito sa local board natin.

Cabalism's point on this topic is precise. Looking at the current board situation it is pretty obvious that he is been doing his job pero it is too hard for him to decide if San i grant ang mga merits.

Yes, in the future we might need it but for now sobrang alat ng magagandang usapan dito sa board ngaun. What we need right now is more quality poster rather than a source as agaib Cabalism is still functioning well. I will only pursue with this suggestion soon if cabalism can no longer handle the load ng magagandang posts that deserves a merit.

If there is a good candidate for it. I don't know if youngmillionaire and cwth are already a source but I believe this 3 is enough right now

Yeah, mahihirapan tayo magkaroon ng isa pang Merit Source kung ang Local naman naten is hinde gaanong kaactive.
Actually kahit isa lang ang Merit Source naten sa ngayon may mga foreign users naman like DS who are willing to contribute in this local board, naappreciate nya ang mga post naten (Dipa naman ako nakakareceived, haha).

Am not , I'm just saying that, I'm a bit enough for the meantime and from what'ss happening right now it doesn't guarantee that we will be granted another source.

I am thinking of these 3 people:

• crwth
• theyoungmillionaire
• GreatArkansas

The responsibility of a local merit source is a bit tiresome. He/she does not only regularly read posts made by local members who are by the hundreds, but also assesses them whether or not they are deserving of a merit. It is not enough that you have found a single great post and give it a merit, because it could be that it may be a good post but way out of the topic being discussed, or perhaps a great post but not really responding to what the OP is asking. So you will have to go through the entire conversation, if possible. Moreover, a lot of posts are great but if you try to scroll up, they are merely based on a post/s already made by someone else, merely paraphrased. They do not deserve even a single merit for me however great their posts appear.

It is also much preferable that a merit source is also one who is posting well-informed, constructive, and on-topic posts himself. Otherwise, it is very ironic or even unacceptable that a merit source is also a poor and arrogant poster.

And so I think it is best if such responsibility is shared by more than one merit source. The names I mentioned above are obviously quality posters. But of course I'm not sure if they are open to accept such burden, except crwth because he himself applied for it.



Don't get offended, my friend. This is all for the betterment of our board.


I agree that the posts which are worth giving merits to are very few. Sometimes, visiting the local board is even sad because the last post you read when you leave is still the same last post you are reading when you get back after several hours. There are only a handful of hot threads as well.

Where have all the Pinoys gone? 

The users that you nominated for the next merit source is I think fit for it. crwth, harizen and mjglqw and add also theyoungmillionaire.

Adding a merit source here in our local board is good but I don't think that is the first thing to do right now. If you can see, there are only few of our countrymen here that are active in the discussions in our board.

I don't we need merit sources at this moment but what we need now is active users. Our sMerits are being distributed to the same users because only few are posting in our thread which is a bit sad for me. There are many Filipino users here in the forum but only few of them are interacting in their local board.

One thing more, anybody can apply to become a merit source but the question is what threads will he post in his application. Most of the topics that are created here are common already although it is helpful for the newbies but I think it is not merit worth (for me). Anyway, I'm not against adding another merit source here but I want the local board to be more active at least .

Actually that's a great topic you created, pero sobrang hirap kase talaga piliting yung mga tao na magcomment sa isang topic na hinde naman sila interesado kaya siguro hinde masyadong active ang local board naten.

With regards to new merit source, I think the application of crwth is still pending or got no response at all so if may magtatangka ulit na mag apply I'm sure naman na magiging supportive tayo dito.

Yes, sa una palang naman talaga we do need good conversation pero sino sino ba ang mga nagiinitiate?
Bakit walang nagiinitiate? If someone will initiate a topic, sobrang common naman na and nakakasawa na rin mag explain ng paulit ulit kasi nga spoonfeeding na rin yung ibang guides dito. We are looking for something extraordinary, yung bago sa atin, yung hindi pa natin nakikita. They can't even reply to this topic https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-new-technique-for-mining-bitcoin-2019-part-ii-5167260 samantalang basic knowledge lang siya for knowing bitcoin mining.  

Kaya andon tayo sa part na we need to encourage and motivate them to create topics where we can develop a good and pleasant conversation. That's why for me, having a merit source serves as a great factor for having one. It's really obvious naman na sobrang dead na yung local natin. Kahit may complex na informations silang makita, tinatamad silang intindihin. Like what @cabalism said, puro nalang si kabayan ang nakikita.  

Anyone can really post their application as a merit source, even you can do that but the final decision will still come from the top and we can’t be sure to have another merit source.

What we need is to have more good conversation dito sa forum, kung saan everyone can speak their thoughts to ask and help people, this is the reason of Local forum. Keep updating everyone, help more people, then ask for something you don’t understand. Merit source is just here to encourage us to do better.

I really appreciate your effort as a merit source and alam kong ginagawa mo lahat pero IMO I don't think the situation about adding merit source depends if you're fulfilling your responsibilities or not. Baka ma-misunderstood mo, Yes you're really doing your job and very effective source ka dito sa ating local board. Kasi sa totoo lang halos lahat naman tayo are capable of applying a merit source kahit sabihin natin kailangan o hindi kailangan. Pero thinking the future of local sa tingin ko kailangan, maybe we see now that we don't need another source pero what about the future? Naisip ko na rin siya before ko gawing topic ito. Kaya sana if ever na hindi na natin kailangan, hindi na rin tayo magrerely sa merits from source of international secs.

Sharing my exp in here, we also don't have merit source that time and for me satisfied na ako kahit walang merit source dahil alam kong kaya ko mag-grind kaya nakaangat. Yun rin yung time na sana ma-accept rin as source si @crwth at sinuportahan namin kasi naisip ko rin yung makikinabang non which is tayong lahat din. Kasi wala namang maximum ang pagiging source kaya advantage na rin ng local natin if ever na madadagdagan ang merit source natin.


Tama ka dyan kabayan. lmao

Actually, dati pa na ganyan dito, it really lacks information in the discussion kaya dapat hindi nalang pinapansin yon. Qualified rin naman siyang ma-remove kaya try mong i-report sa mods. I consider it as shitpost tho

Marami na rin akong sMerits pero I don't find someone that satisfies me kasi medyo tumaas na ang standard natin for quality threads. Sa totoo lang ang hirap din i-motivate yung mga beginners na gumawa ng magandang thread na hindi pa nageexist at hindi translated lang. Walang nagstestep-in para gumawa ng magandang thread, they all just wanna do an easy way.



I also recommend @crwth since siya talaga ang pinakauna and still hoping until now na maaccept yung application niya. Siguro yung judgement of giving merits and yung no. of sent merits sa local board ang magiging basehan natin sa pagpili.

Sorry to say this bro, but I don't think we will be needing a new Source for this board... In my stead, I can say I'm pretty effective as a Source of this board but the thing is, the posts which is worthy to be Merited are getting few,...
Just Check this number:



Everyday, I've been checking this board of ours just to award people with their posts, but simply, I can't reward them by putting up some simple sentences,... Hindi naman sa kailangan gumawa ng nobela or what, sadyang karamihan lang ng nababasa ko ngayon ay tulad nito...

"tama ka kabayan" , "Sang ayon ako", ... Whenever I see those words, nakakawalang gana sa totoo lang...

Kahit pa sabihin na may sariling akong batayan sa pagbibigay ng Merit, I don't think na ganun ako kahigpit, at sa nakikita ko ay tama lamg ang judgement ko pag dating sa mga posts. With the help of DdmrDdmr, I just found a solution for my unspendable sMerits, sa malamang ay mag bigay ako ulit sa mga posts na nabigyan ko na, kesa magbigay ako sa mga hnd naman talaga deserve.

Tulad nga ng sabi ko, kakaunti na naman ang posters dito sa PILIPINAS, kung kaya wala akong makitang bago, I tried to bump my threads para may mapagkaabalahan ang iba ngunit walang pumansin o walang may interes.

P.S. Nasa Pagbabago ngayon ang sagot sa ating kinabukasan, kung kaya naman kung walang pagbabago o walang asenso at pagkakaisa tayong mga Pilipino, wag na tayong umasang may mangyayari sa ating kinabukasan. Hindi tayo "inakay" na naghihintay ng patuka, maaring tigilan natin ito sapagkat nakakadismaya.

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Edit:

Kung magkaroon man ng pagbabago sa ating board at mangailangan tayo ng Merit Source:
This users whom I've known so far should be fit:

-crwth
-harizen
-mjglqw

There are still quite few user that I can recommend but it will be their decision whether they'll bite the opportunity or not. But that 3 users is what I highly recommend and will support them until the end, not because they're reputed but their judgement on awarding Merits.

Speaking of theyoungmillionaire, AFAIK, he doesn't want to be bothered by such responsibility, based on what we have discussed last time.

Edit 2:

Spending Spree: Done (+50 to Pilipinas Section)

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Panimula

I would like to open this topic since para mas maging aware tayong lahat kung sino ang susunod at posibleng merit source para sa ating local. Ang layunin ng thread na ito ay para pagusapan kung sino ang may kakayahan at responsableng merit source. Ang thread na ito ay para na rin magsilbing lugar para sa discussion natin tungkol sa merit source.

Layunin

Upang lahat tayo ay maging aware at masuportahan ang susunod na merit source ng ating local.
Para mapag-usapan ang mga taong posible at may kakayahan para hindi tayo mabigla na may magpapasa nalang ng application.
Isa ito sa mga pangangailangan ng ating lokal kaya't marapat lamang siyang pagusapan.

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It's been 2 months na simula nung nagkaroon tayo ng sariling merit source dito sa ating Local Board which is @cabalism13. Since, isa sa mga layunin natin para sa local board ay mapaganda at umabot sa standard, syempre hindi mawawala ang merits na magsisilbing motivation sa mga quality poster ng ating local.  Kaya ko na-open 'tong topic na ito upang pagusapan naman kung sino ang posible at kung may ma-nominate kayong tao na may kakayahan bilang maging merit source.

Hindi kasama sa layunin ko ang magmadali para sa susunod na merit source. Ang tanging layunin nito ay para pagusapan ang katangitanging tao sa pag-apply bilang pangalawang merit source ng Pilipinas. Hindi ko rin pinipilit lahat pero alam kong mas makakabuti ito lalo na sa lahat ng may pake pa sa ating local board. Ang discussion na ito ay posibleng tumagal ng ilang araw o buwan sapagkat tao ang paguusapan kaya't masasabi kong hindi ito pagmamadali at ito ay para sa kapakanan ng ating hinaharap. Uunahan ko na kayo, it's for our future at hindi naman agad agad ang aksyon sa pagpili ng merit source kaya kung meron mang nagtataka at napapaisip kung kailangan ba natin, kung observative kayo sa pinanggalingan niyo, alam niyo na ang sagot. Kung may naisip kayo at karapatdapat na mag-apply bilang merit source, pakilahad at brief description lang kung bakit siya yung napili mo.

Simple fact:
Most of the local boards have 2 or more merit sources, hindi pa kasama don yung mga merit sources ng international section.

I need the presence of all the higher-ups especially the existing merit source regarding sa topic na ito.

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It's an important matter regarding about adding merit source so I quoted it in OP.