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Topic: Discussion: Who is going to fill the gap of Chipmixer by the end of year 2023? - page 2. (Read 473 times)

legendary
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Question remains, who is going to win it?

This is a speculative issue and, obviously, a priori we cannot know for sure. However, in the options you give I think you are overlooking one aspect, and that is that it doesn't have to be just one that takes the field. CM's market share could be divided among the various mixers that are currently in vogue.

I'm saying it again. More mixers appear, better it is for each of us. We don't need 1 or 2 mixers dominating the market and a few satellites around.

I agree. Although what is good for us does not necessarily have to coincide with what ends up happening, but a priori we cannot exclude the possibility of the CM gap being filled by several mixers instead of just one as implied by the OP.
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But it became obvious the next chipmixer will be the one who will be able to stay in the race for longer time.

Question remains, who is going to win it?
A. The ones who seems to have struggling with marketing budget.
B. The ones who seem balancing but have good reserve.
C. The ones who is showing off their wealth and may be they have a good reserve too.

It would be nice to know who have how much btc in reserve. At least Foxpup can do a math if he wants his own mixer  Grin



All new mixers right now will try to establish their reputation and their presence because there is a market to fill as the top player is out of the business, all three points that you laid out are attainable by all the current new mixers its good that there is competition in the mixing services so they can offer the best possible service and it will take time before one emerges as the new Chipmixer in the history, I'm supporting Yomix to be the top replacement or option to fill the gap Chipmixer left in the mixing industry.
hero member
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IMO the one that doesn't face a strong opposition from the regulators. At this point it's not that difficult to make or advertise a mixing service if you have any idea of how to approach it but the problem is keeping it running without problems. Some torrent sites were raided and shut down but others like 1337.to keep running for years and they just switch domains when one gets blocked. If the mixing service manages to stay alive for a year or two it's going to be popular and profitable. That's the way I see it.

It's no different with crypto exchanges. You don't scam and you don't get yourself arrested for a few years and you're going to have a popular business worth a lot of money.

Currently the mixing campaign is increasing their payouts such as Unijoin also increasing its perpost payout to 0.00012/btc from only 0.0001/btc, MixTum gives participants who have earned 1000 merits a 20% weekly bonus, YoMix adds bonuses to 3 quality posters and looks like there will still be a lot of changes going forward depending on how they will improve it.

Competition is always good, be it school, sport, business...

legendary
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Question remains, who is going to win it?
A. The ones who seems to have struggling with marketing budget.
B. The ones who seem balancing but have good reserve.
C. The ones who is showing off their wealth and may be they have a good reserve too.
Your options are bordering around who would replace chipmixer signature campaign on the forum and not as a mixer. We only get exposed to 'bitcointalk' related marketing budget and not the budget of the entire project on every website and this is not indication of the wealth depth of the platform.

Budget and cash flow is just one aspect of a project, things to consider for a mixing platform involves ease of use and navigation, reliability, reputation, mode of transactions. All of these and more would influence the choice of a mixer and we would not only have one which dominates the niche, more than one can thrive at the same time
hero member
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Regardless of whatever marketing campaign they started with, I guess no one will make it unless they are engaged in the forum and take feedback, and suggestions to improve their quality to ensure better privacy. I haven't used either of the mixers but it seems someone is trying to dominate & you know which one I mean. They are actively engaging with the community, feedbacks are good as well. So, I guess they are going to take over the place.
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I'm crawling in the mixers pool for over 6 years now, so I can think out of the box.
The amount spend to promote their service is not something I consider. What we see is Chipmixer leaved the market and there is a big audience to take. Hence the few marketing campaigns you see lately, but it will stop soon. Give it a few weeks

I know and I see some things people are not aware.
I have convictions so and I know I'm right because I'm not the only one

I'm saying it again. More mixers appear, better it is for each of us. We don't need 1 or 2 mixers dominating the market and a few satellites around.
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No one can know how many people use these services and whether the mixer was profitable or not? Are they really looking for profits or are they running a money laundering service and therefore the discussion on the subject is useless.
What is clear is that mixing services are now increasing after the Chpmixer was confiscated, maybe for that we will never know because there is no accurate data whether this mixing service is profitable for people who want to remain privacy or they just want to increase the stability of the Chipmixer collapsing of course from other mixing will try to take the best position and after a long time they act they will be widely known and that is their advantage.

The thing we can discuss is the continuity of signature campaigns related to mixing services during this year. Right now we have:
Unijoin, MixTum, Sinbad, Coinomize, Yo!Mix, but which of these campaigns will last until the end of the year or, for example, the 100th week or the 200th week?
Currently only Sinbad is running long enough at 23 weeks while the others are still going to keep on trying for longer but we don't know how many years this campaign will last as Chipmixer was able to sustain almost 5 plus years with very high payouts.

Currently the mixing campaign is increasing their payouts such as Unijoin also increasing its perpost payout to 0.00012/btc from only 0.0001/btc, MixTum gives participants who have earned 1000 merits a 20% weekly bonus, YoMix adds bonuses to 3 quality posters and looks like there will still be a lot of changes going forward depending on how they will improve it.

SinBad has a slight change in rate announced by Royese777.

It would be helpful if someone generated a topic about the average duration of mixer signature campaigns and the probability that those campaigns will continue after the 10th week.
📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝

I think that thread is also enough to talk about signature campaigns.
legendary
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No one can know how many people use these services and whether the mixer was profitable or not? Are they really looking for profits or are they running a money laundering service and therefore the discussion on the subject is useless.

The thing we can discuss is the continuity of signature campaigns related to mixing services during this year. Right now we have:
Unijoin, MixTum, Sinbad, Coinomize, Yo!Mix, but which of these campaigns will last until the end of the year or, for example, the 100th week or the 200th week?

It would be helpful if someone generated a topic about the average duration of mixer signature campaigns and the probability that those campaigns will continue after the 10th week.

As for privacy, I personally see that most people here do not care about it in exchange for profits.
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Right now there's a marketing competition here in Bitcointalk, but it will go down to longevity and good feedback, people who are continuous users of Mixers will try out all the new mixers in the market right now they may retain 2 or 3 mixers which can give them the best experience but it will take a few months to see who can fill the gap of what Chipmixers left, and if the authorities will slow down or stop persecuting these mixers.
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It's too early to conclude who is the most superior, they all still look new to the ears of CM ex-users and still need some more time to become a fairly mature service. CM was closed no a month yet, other brands are still just beginning campaigns to seriously replace the position.
Btw, is the amount of escrowed campaign funds the new parameter determining how rich a mixer's bitcoin reserves are?
hero member
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I think the mixer which have huge advertisement and active in this forum will high likely to replace Chipmixer as the new biggest mixer. It's because mixer project don't have any other way to promote their project, not a good way to promote in social medias due to centralized, compromise your privacy and spy your activity.

Whirlwind seems to be interesting as they have their own discussion and how their mixer work Ultimate Bitcoin Privacy - Discussion

Sinbad also have a chance, but this thread could trigger SEC Blender.io = Sinbad.io | Thoughts?
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50, 100 bitcoin sounds peanut considering 1909.4 bitcoin seized from Chipmixer. Mind it, they only was able to access 1909.4 bitcoin that must be in hot wallet. We have no idea how much they have in their cold wallet and still inaccessible for authority, in fact they may not have any idea how to locate the cold wallet.
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Question remains, who is going to win it?
A. The ones who seems to have struggling with marketing budget.
B. The ones who seem balancing but have good reserve.
C. The ones who is showing off their wealth and may be they have a good reserve too.
If people see a mixer that shows its reserve of many bitcoin, like 100 or more bitcoins, this will make people to trust the mixer more as they know the mixer have the money it can use for mixing. Mixers showing big reserve is a good strategy to gain people's trust. Also the ones with a better campaign is a good strategy to this forum members and visitors to be enticed to use the mixer.
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Who would have thought Chipmixer was going to have such faith? But shutting down chipmixer opened a wide door for many others.

In short time we witnessed mixers started to show off their BTC and trying to attract clients. They are coming with huge marketing budgets. Some are even relaunching their old campaigns, while it looks they are struggling with their marketing budget. Unijoin, MixTum are some examples. At least looking at their signature budget it's not clear that they have enough. May be they have in reserve but they are not going aggressive and quickly discover running out of reserve.

On the other hand the newest one whirlwind is trying to spread an idea that they have huge and they wants to fill the gap as quick as they can. At least their weekly budget for signature campaign, $40K escrow for review campaign shows some money.

And there are these others who already made a decent name even when Chipmixer existed. Sinbad, Coinomize, Yo!Mix falls into the category. The new relaunch of Mixero shows some new promise too. They have budgets which is not aggressive nor something to ignore too. At least Sinbad seems ahead of the game than everyone else.

But it became obvious the next chipmixer will be the one who will be able to stay in the race for longer time.

Question remains, who is going to win it?
A. The ones who seems to have struggling with marketing budget.
B. The ones who seem balancing but have good reserve.
C. The ones who is showing off their wealth and may be they have a good reserve too.

It would be nice to know who have how much btc in reserve. At least Foxpup can do a math if he wants his own mixer  Grin

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