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hero member
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June 27, 2013, 11:30:43 AM
#51
removed from my new post and placed here instead, where it belongs:

"Inaba will never get banned because he pays Theymos $2500 per week to advertise here but I do not and I will probably be banished for even posting this thread.  Let's see if Theymos can stand a little heat, I'm betting he does not have the balls to let this stand". - Viceroy


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/seeking-a-team-to-develop-bitcointalk-20-forums-apply-within-244678
full member
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June 27, 2013, 11:29:09 AM
#50
Until I get banned for poking the bear I have already begun.  Come join me.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/seeking-a-team-to-develop-bitcointalk-20-forums-apply-within-244678

You won't be banned for deviant sexuality AFAIK.

hero member
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June 27, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
#49
Oh please, I'm sooo scared of the mighted maged LOL.  

I'll just make a sock puppet like you did crumcake, your main was banned and you are still here.  So I guess you live in the house of fail, huh?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/seeking-a-team-to-develop-bitcointalk-20-forums-apply-within-244678
full member
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June 27, 2013, 11:22:13 AM
#48
[...]You mods don't do shit.[...]Mark my words, one year from today this forum will be only a shadow of what it is today. [...] For the record Maged is the worst mod I've ever come across, fucking moron.

@Viceroy:  "Thee who maketh dah Mighty thine enemy resideth at The House of Fail." --The Teachings Of Crumbs, Red letter edition.
hero member
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June 27, 2013, 11:11:33 AM
#47
Until I get banned for poking the bear I have already begun.  Come join me.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/seeking-a-team-to-develop-bitcointalk-20-forums-apply-within-244678
legendary
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May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
June 27, 2013, 10:35:10 AM
#46
On re-examination (check the timestamps) it is clear that trolls exist in these forums and their useless contributions drive the intelligent conversation to an absolute standstill.  I fear the only solution is travel to a forum that is subscription based.  I guess I'm probably next on that journey.  Don't be surprised to soon hear me say:
"So long, fellas, it's been good to know you...."

Report the troll posts you see rather than bitching about them.  If they merit action, then something will be done.  We (mods) can't clean up the forums all by ourselves, posts need to be reported for us to see as well.


You mods don't do shit.  I have been reporting oldsport as a scammer for almost two months and he still runs around the currency trading forums stealing peoples money.  Don't give lame excuses like you are too busy, you are too lazy is what you meant to write.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--244413

He completely erased my post leading to five seperate threads where people call oldsport a scammer.  All of the threads are unresolved and the scammer is still scamming.  The scammer is sending offensive emails to me in pm.  The scammer is attacking my reputation in the threads.  The mods do nothing.  It's been almost sixty days since the first post about the known scammer's actions but nothing has been done.  In the time since the first crime oldsport has stolen from at least a half dozen people and the mods sit around doing nothing.

I'll tell you what I'm going to do.  I'm going to demonstrate to all you mods how a forum should be run.  I'm going to replace this entire forum with a better one of my own making and I'm going to pull all the traffic off this forum to my own.  I'm sure theymos will ban me for this post but I don't give a shit anymore... just like theymos.

I care about the community and for this reason I'm going to duplicate this forum and provide a place where people can discuss bitcoin with a better and more professional set of moderators and admins. 

Mark my words, one year from today this forum will be only a shadow of what it is today.  Better spend that $600k now to improve and advertise this forum because YHBW.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammer-in-our-midst-oldsport-224769

There are more threads than those but I can't find them now because Maged thought it would be a good idea to remove my post from the forum completely.  For the record Maged is the worst mod I've ever come across, fucking moron.






Marking your words
hero member
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June 27, 2013, 09:27:49 AM
#45
On re-examination (check the timestamps) it is clear that trolls exist in these forums and their useless contributions drive the intelligent conversation to an absolute standstill.  I fear the only solution is travel to a forum that is subscription based.  I guess I'm probably next on that journey.  Don't be surprised to soon hear me say:
"So long, fellas, it's been good to know you...."

Report the troll posts you see rather than bitching about them.  If they merit action, then something will be done.  We (mods) can't clean up the forums all by ourselves, posts need to be reported for us to see as well.


You mods don't do shit.  I have been reporting oldsport as a scammer for almost two months and he still runs around the currency trading forums stealing peoples money.  Don't give lame excuses like you are too busy, you are too lazy is what you meant to write.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--244413

He completely erased my post leading to five seperate threads where people call oldsport a scammer.  All of the threads are unresolved and the scammer is still scamming.  The scammer is sending offensive emails to me in pm.  The scammer is attacking my reputation in the threads.  The mods do nothing.  It's been almost sixty days since the first post about the known scammer's actions but nothing has been done.  In the time since the first crime oldsport has stolen from at least a half dozen people and the mods sit around doing nothing.

I'll tell you what I'm going to do.  I'm going to demonstrate to all you mods how a forum should be run.  I'm going to replace this entire forum with a better one of my own making and I'm going to pull all the traffic off this forum to my own.  I'm sure theymos will ban me for this post but I don't give a shit anymore... just like theymos.

I care about the community and for this reason I'm going to duplicate this forum and provide a place where people can discuss bitcoin with a better and more professional set of moderators and admins.  

Mark my words, one year from today this forum will be only a shadow of what it is today.  Better spend that $600k now to improve and advertise this forum because YHBW.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammer-in-our-midst-oldsport-224769

There are more threads than those but I can't find them now because Maged thought it would be a good idea to remove my post from the forum completely.  For the record Maged is the worst mod I've ever come across, fucking moron.

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Help me build a better forum here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/seeking-a-team-to-develop-bitcointalk-20-forums-apply-within-244678
hero member
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
April 25, 2013, 01:47:39 PM
#44
Why should I report the troll and waste the admins time?   What is the point?  

edit.
Oh, you don't see that myrkul is my troll.  my stalker.
I've been watching this thread for some time. One could argue that you're stalking me. I gave you valid suggestions, which are essentially what Theymos would have told you. If you don't like them, you don't have to take them.
legendary
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Keep it real
April 25, 2013, 01:40:31 PM
#43
On re-examination (check the timestamps) it is clear that trolls exist in these forums and their useless contributions drive the intelligent conversation to an absolute standstill.  I fear the only solution is travel to a forum that is subscription based.  I guess I'm probably next on that journey.  Don't be surprised to soon hear me say:
"So long, fellas, it's been good to know you...."

Report the troll posts you see rather than bitching about them.  If they merit action, then something will be done.  We (mods) can't clean up the forums all by ourselves, posts need to be reported for us to see as well.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
April 25, 2013, 01:12:34 PM
#42
1) integrate google or similar search function. perhaps people won't need to start so many threads if they can find the thread they are looking for.
Google has a site: operand. Use it. Love it.

2) integrate voting.  People often have the same question or same opinion about something.  If in a thread a person could vote for anothers post it would minimize trash like ("this!" or "^^^^" or "i agree with that").. just click an up or down arrow.  Then popular positions could move to the top of a thread and you would eliminate repetitions of the same mind numbing "i agree" sentiment.
This is slated for the new forum software, but god only knows when that will come in. In the meantime, too much overhead.

3) allow hot heads to opt out of threads they've posted in.  It is infuriating to see people posting nonsense and from time to time my ego forces me to want to tell them off.  By putting in my face the very same threads each time I log in (America is a Police State) you force me to want to reach into the thread and smack down the ______'s.
Use of the watchlist and unwatch link is advised for these sorts of situations.
hero member
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April 25, 2013, 01:05:56 PM
#41
The problem is that noobs are just so damn annoying.  

This was my 666th post, which I promptly erased after assuring Theymos I would stop acting like a child.   Maybe the devil made me do it?



I can think of three nice features that might improve the level of discourse:

1) integrate google or similar search function. perhaps people won't need to start so many threads if they can find the thread they are looking for.

2) integrate voting.  People often have the same question or same opinion about something.  If in a thread a person could vote for anothers post it would minimize trash like ("this!" or "^^^^" or "i agree with that").. just click an up or down arrow.  Then popular positions could move to the top of a thread and you would eliminate repetitions of the same mind numbing "i agree" sentiment.

3) allow hot heads to opt out of threads they've posted in.  It is infuriating to see people posting nonsense and from time to time my ego forces me to want to tell them off.  By putting in my face the very same threads each time I log in (America is a Police State) you force me to want to reach into the thread and smack down the ______'s.

I REALLY appreciate and HIGHLY ADVOCATE use of the self moderated thread function.  In the next version of that I'd love to see the deleted thread posters get a specific message surrounding the reason their post was removed.  Not sure if editing can be improved for the non-html savvy...  

Thanks again, Theymos.



 
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April 15, 2013, 10:26:31 AM
#40
But don't bother to buy your way there. There is not much extra insight there compared to what you can find in the public area.

Yeah, that was my suspicion all along... Besides, 10 BTC for a forum access is kinda pricey nowadays Smiley
donator
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April 15, 2013, 10:20:17 AM
#39
You seem like a boring pretentious douchebag.  That said, I think the donator's/VIP's have their own private section of the forum.

Yes, we do. But don't bother to buy your way there. There is not much extra insight there compared to what you can find in the public area.
donator
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Preaching the gospel of Satoshi
April 15, 2013, 12:50:38 AM
#38
Like it or not, as Bitcoin adoption grows the forums are going to attract a lot of users who have little interest in intellectual discourse and even less interest in reading what others have written.  Many of them will have no interest in discussing concepts.

Other boards handle this by having dedicated forums with tougher rules.  The problem with that here is it takes a great deal of pro-active moderation to enforce and there's neither the will nor the resources to do that effectively.  This particular messageboard has an over-arching philosophy of minimal intervention by moderators and that's probably not going to change.
You know what, I am imagining a collective moderation mechanism, where people vote privately each other if someone is worthy. Something like the "thanks" mechanism. Someone who received kudos/thanks/whatever, automatically gets authorized to get into the exclusive forum.

The ones who gets the voting feature would be only those who achieved Hero Members, VIP and Donors, this would prevent gaming the system by registering new accounts massively and flooding each other with votes.

I think it may work pretty nicely.
hero member
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April 14, 2013, 10:41:50 PM
#37
Like it or not, as Bitcoin adoption grows the forums are going to attract a lot of users who have little interest in intellectual discourse and even less interest in reading what others have written.  Many of them will have no interest in discussing concepts.

Other boards handle this by having dedicated forums with tougher rules.  The problem with that here is it takes a great deal of pro-active moderation to enforce and there's neither the will nor the resources to do that effectively.  This particular messageboard has an over-arching philosophy of minimal intervention by moderators and that's probably not going to change.
hero member
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
April 14, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
#36
Have you tried the "ignore" function?  With some discipline, I am able to remove low-IQ contributors, whilst keeping most of those who have something to contribute - even if I totally disagree with it.

But the invite only/read only subsection is not a bad idea either.
I beg to differ. We're already getting accusations of elitism.
newbie
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April 14, 2013, 08:09:56 PM
#35
Have you tried the "ignore" function?  With some discipline, I am able to remove low-IQ contributors, whilst keeping most of those who have something to contribute - even if I totally disagree with it.

But the invite only/read only subsection is not a bad idea either.
hero member
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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
April 14, 2013, 06:37:49 PM
#34
Have you tried the "ignore" function?  With some discipline, I am able to remove low-IQ contributors, whilst keeping most of those who have something to contribute - even if I totally disagree with it.
donator
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Preaching the gospel of Satoshi
April 14, 2013, 05:45:21 AM
#33
IQ only signifies a capacity for holding knowledge.  It says nothing about knowledge held.  For example, if Bill had a cup the size of 130 IQ, and Jane had a cup the size of 150, how can you tell how full their cups are?  Would Jane's cup necessarily be more full than Bill's because it's bigger?  It's possible, but not always the case.

That is, if you believe IQ is a legitimate method of determining how much potential a person has to understand.  If someone can improve their IQ, everything gets thrown out the window.

IQ isn't really about capacity for "holding knowledge", in that case it would test memory, encoding and retrieval, which isn't really tested there.
IQ is more about your capacity of processing information, and that's it.
Visual processing, pattern processing are the most typical ones.

Potential for knowledge might fit what I was trying for better...

Neither that.
They do find correlations with academic performance, but that doesn't really prove potential for anything.
Ie. You can have a high IQ and be deluded to know it all, in that case you will never learn and be an ignorant ass all your life. You can find those examples quite often.
legendary
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April 14, 2013, 04:40:13 AM
#32
IQ only signifies a capacity for holding knowledge.  It says nothing about knowledge held.  For example, if Bill had a cup the size of 130 IQ, and Jane had a cup the size of 150, how can you tell how full their cups are?  Would Jane's cup necessarily be more full than Bill's because it's bigger?  It's possible, but not always the case.

That is, if you believe IQ is a legitimate method of determining how much potential a person has to understand.  If someone can improve their IQ, everything gets thrown out the window.

IQ isn't really about capacity for "holding knowledge", in that case it would test memory, encoding and retrieval, which isn't really tested there.
IQ is more about your capacity of processing information, and that's it.
Visual processing, pattern processing are the most typical ones.

Potential for knowledge might fit what I was trying for better...
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