DIY FPGA Mining rig for any algorithm with fast ROI - page 96.

DigitalCruncher

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Quote from: Mike011 on May 01, 2018, 03:09:13 PM

Quote from: papabiz on May 01, 2018, 01:37:32 PM

dudes prolly affiliated in some kind of way and gets % of the sale when you mark him as your referrer.

writing HDL that performs 10x better than a high-end GPU is questionable

but yes, a well done FPGA should perform better than a 1080ti, but not 10x

+1

I wanted to make such a project, but my investors make decisions very slowly.

There is an opinion that the GPU is too complicated to be implemented at the FPGA, and therefore it is impossible to make a good mining on the FPGA. This is a wrong opinion. In the FPGA you can make specialized instructions that are not available in the GPU. You do not need to implement the ALU with double precision and other unnecesassary stuff.

VU09P has at least x10 advantage in speed and power consumption in comparison with 1080ti. It had 1 month of ROI in late 2017-beginning 2018.

Mike011

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Quote from: papabiz on May 01, 2018, 01:37:32 PM

dudes prolly affiliated in some kind of way and gets % of the sale when you mark him as your referrer.

writing HDL that performs 10x better than a high-end GPU is questionable

but yes, a well done FPGA should perform better than a 1080ti, but not 10x

+1

xs.over

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Mining profitability will be very fast fckd up once this software will be released to public, especially for low liquid coins/algos.
R.I.P. profitable GPU mining, especially with Eth POS switching

rogerthat55

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Just my two cents, but it looks like a lot of coins are moving away from POW and going POS and other Proofs. I wonder how long POW will be around anyway.

adaseb

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This thread reminds me of what people started doing right before the ASICs hit the BTC mining market.

GPUs were very inefficient back then and for 1Ghs you had to burn 300Watts or so.

Since Sha256 was very easy to implant people started using FGPA.

Only issue was they weren't cheap and they weren't all that fast compared to GPUs.

They were only marginally faster but the biggest advantage was the power savings.

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Quote from: kgeorgiev on May 01, 2018, 02:32:28 PM

I have another question - what do you think is the residual value of these cards and is there any secondary market for them? Of course I'd love to mine with them for years but you need to have some expectations for the entire investment cycle which means thinking about the scenario when these are not profitable and you have to get rid of them somehow.

I know that you should never invest anything you can't lose in this field but still, with GPU rigs for example you always have expectation for at least 50% residual value in the worse scenarios and there is a well-established secondary market. So I'm curious what's the situation with these, as somebody who hardly knows anything about the FPGA market.

Probably zero once they have been run for a few years, almost like an asic as there is no gamer market to buy the old equipment.

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I have another question - what do you think is the residual value of these cards and is there any secondary market for them? Of course I'd love to mine with them for years but you need to have some expectations for the entire investment cycle which means thinking about the scenario when these are not profitable and you have to get rid of them somehow.

I know that you should never invest anything you can't lose in this field but still, with GPU rigs for example you always have expectation for at least 50% residual value in the worse scenarios and there is a well-established secondary market. So I'm curious what's the situation with these, as somebody who hardly knows anything about the FPGA market.

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Quote from: ruplikminer on May 01, 2018, 02:18:51 PM

Aready some hating? wow

Eric is super busy working on programming the bitstream. Be patient and eventually he will post the screenshots. I have already ordered some cards.

I dont think anyone is hating; just some healthy skepticism and caution, I'd say.

hacko86

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If anyone in UK is interested please contact me, i am going to order a couple units.

ruplikminer

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Aready some hating? wow

Eric is super busy working on programming the bitstream. Be patient and eventually he will post the screenshots. I have already ordered some cards.

rogerthat55

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If you can show us the screenshots of your miner hashing at these rates, then I will pull the trigger and place an order for eight of these units.

For $35,000 why not fly out and meet, see it for yourself, or something of that nature?

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https://bpip.org

Quote from: HardwareCollector on May 01, 2018, 01:21:41 PM

Quote from: LTCMAXMYR on May 01, 2018, 02:26:53 AM

keccak 17G per card,if it runs 600M,must fit 28 cores in XCVU9P, how is it possible?

@whitefire990

If you can show us the screenshots of your miner hashing at these rates, then I will pull the trigger and place an order for eight of these units. You are implying that one of these cards is 18x the performance of a GTX 1080 Ti and greater than 18x the performance/watt for these algos, that’s a hard pill to swallow without some screenshots.

Keccak (Smartcash, Maxcoin): 136GH/s (17GH/s per card x eight) ($160/day at Apr-30 prices)
Tribus (Denarius, Virtus): 16.8GH/s (2.1GH/s per card x eight) ($304/day at Apr-30 prices)
Phi1612 (Luxcoin, Folm): 5.2GH/s (650MH/s per card x eight) ($456/day at Apr-30 prices)
Skunhash (Various coins): 10.4GH/s (1.3GH/s per card x eight) ($261/day at Apr-30 prices)

How is a screenshot going to help? Extremely easy to fake.

Besides the OP isn't really selling the hardware (aside maybe from some referral revenue) so you could simply wait until the software is in the wild and proven to work (or not).

The OP could also consider sending it out to some trusted members for review but since it requires fairly expensive hardware that might not be feasible.

papabiz

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dudes prolly affiliated in some kind of way and gets % of the sale when you mark him as your referrer.

writing HDL that performs 10x better than a high-end GPU is questionable

but yes, a well done FPGA should perform better than a 1080ti, but not 10x

floes

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The cards isnt the problem bit the software is i want to buy the cards But i must first have the software when can get the software?

dhouse

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Quote from: HardwareCollector on May 01, 2018, 01:21:41 PM

Quote from: LTCMAXMYR on May 01, 2018, 02:26:53 AM

keccak 17G per card,if it runs 600M,must fit 28 cores in XCVU9P, how is it possible?

@whitefire990

If you can show us the screenshots of your miner hashing at these rates, then I will pull the trigger and place an order for eight of these units. You are implying that one of these cards is 18x the performance of a GTX 1080 Ti and greater than 18x the performance/watt for these algos, that’s a hard pill to swallow without some screenshots.

Keccak (Smartcash, Maxcoin): 136GH/s (17GH/s per card x eight) ($160/day at Apr-30 prices)
Tribus (Denarius, Virtus): 16.8GH/s (2.1GH/s per card x eight) ($304/day at Apr-30 prices)
Phi1612 (Luxcoin, Folm): 5.2GH/s (650MH/s per card x eight) ($456/day at Apr-30 prices)
Skunhash (Various coins): 10.4GH/s (1.3GH/s per card x eight) ($261/day at Apr-30 prices)

Yeah I feel like I need some reassurance as well.

HardwareCollector

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Quote from: LTCMAXMYR on May 01, 2018, 02:26:53 AM

keccak 17G per card,if it runs 600M,must fit 28 cores in XCVU9P, how is it possible?

@whitefire990

If you can show us the screenshots of your miner hashing at these rates, then I will pull the trigger and place an order for eight of these units. You are implying that one of these cards is 18x the performance of a GTX 1080 Ti and greater than 18x the performance/watt for these algos, that’s a hard pill to swallow without some screenshots.

Keccak (Smartcash, Maxcoin): 136GH/s (17GH/s per card x eight) ($160/day at Apr-30 prices)
Tribus (Denarius, Virtus): 16.8GH/s (2.1GH/s per card x eight) ($304/day at Apr-30 prices)
Phi1612 (Luxcoin, Folm): 5.2GH/s (650MH/s per card x eight) ($456/day at Apr-30 prices)
Skunhash (Various coins): 10.4GH/s (1.3GH/s per card x eight) ($261/day at Apr-30 prices)

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ASIC <--> FPGA <--> General Purpose CPU / GPU

Trade off performance vs flexibility and development cost, unit cost and time to market.

Nice to see more public discussion about FPGAs, it is the next step in crypto/tech.

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As i remember there was a project before for bitcoin FPGA miner before the ASIC miner came, the performance and profitability is quite reasonable compared to gpu mining at that time way back years ago but the project was discontinued to after the release of ASIC minig. Now as i see FPGA are also the prototype for ASIC design then, there are still possiblilties that soon there will be an ASIC that capable of multi-algo that derived from this design. So Chinese market will release soon if the succesfully ported that FPGA to an ASIC chip.

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Quote from: ruplikminer on May 01, 2018, 09:51:25 AM

Quote from: dhouse on May 01, 2018, 09:38:12 AM

i want to buy some of these

Contact Jason. The email is on the first post. Remember to tell him that Eric sent you and you need the cards for mining.

Yep found it. Sorry I was just posting out of excitement.

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Quote from: Atomicc on May 01, 2018, 10:21:34 AM

Quote from: janmenklooten on May 01, 2018, 10:15:42 AM

It's quite impossibe to get these FPGA's from these producers for people who live in Europe.

Prices are very high + we need to pay VAT + customs.

Is there an alternative FPGA produced by European companies?

+1

Also, is there any info about China producers?

Nope so far not...just USA

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